Phase3

Mackey256:
Background replacement and making new compositions are difficult tasks to do; you’ve done a fantastic job at restoring these scenes – well done!

Thanks also to GabinDayback for all of the work that has gone into this project!

Mackey256 said:

Just for fun I’m experimenting with a few shots to see if I can improve them. It’s been fun analyzing how this show was put together.

For instance, I’ve been working on cleaning up this speeder shot, as it gets cut off early in the DVD version.

Chapter 9 - Opening Shot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dV7bljJZA40

Very few “Next Time” and “Previously” on segments are available online from what I can find. The “Next Time” segments are literally 3 second teasers for the next episode while the “Previously” segments are a bit longer but easy to edit.

Chapter 9 Previously & Next Time HD Rebuild

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpeEHE4Lp0c

I did take a stab at a few missing segments which were replaced by wipes on the DVD Versions.

Chapter 8 Ending - Replaced with a wipe on DVD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzV4LRUd2og

Chpater 9 Ending - Replaced with a wipe on DVD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJSl9X54A50

While neither of these two tests are prefect, they are blink and you’ll miss them changes. Both shots are under 15 frames of content. It would still be nice to have them back at some point.

Chapter 9 - Replaced with a wipe on DVD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGTfRVtQKcU

One more blink and you miss it shot. This is also the result of a wipe being added to the DVD version of this shot.

Like I said, I’ve just been playing around with these in my downtime. I just wanted to share what I’ve been playing with.

Hey kg1977,

With regards to upscaling the behind-the-scenes, B-Roll, plus alternate & deleted footage, it’s definitely possible to get decent-quality videos from the source material, and retain as much original footage as possible.

Some examples: on the top are screen-shots from your v1.6 Raiders edit, along with upscales that I have done (upscales only – no colour correction has been applied):

Thanks for your kind words! 😃

kg1977 said:

To an extent, the following shots from the latest shot list (which I did update today-see very first post) or here:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gAUSRGFmFMHpOTdD8OqQZD-qPDdnvd05/view?usp=sharing

are “B” grade, so I know the ones you mean.

“B” grade is to describe ones that are the more rare deleted scenes that are not as good of quality as the more common and widely circulated ones. In some cases, these deleted scenes are not even in 1280 resolution and in some cases 800 as the highest avail. As such, they will have a different quality (even enhanced and upscaled to 1920/1920 cropped to 1:2.35 ratio).

In looking at the latest shot list, I would assume these are the ones you are referring and would be shots 1,2,10,11,18 (some of it), 21,22,23,29,32,47,51(to an extent), 53

I may produce a 1.8 before 2.0 that excludes these as I can certainly see people not wanting them if they are not at least 1280 upscaled and of decent enough quality to blend in. In some cases (I think you mentioned a few) the quality may be hard to swallow on anything larger than a 27 inch TV.

That being said, some of those did have a final pass on them using some some new software this spring that I think is about as good as it going to get on some of “b” grade scenes. These final tweaks at quality will be in 2.0 so hopefully that attempt works better.

I do value your feedback and if you do see any deleted that are not these numbered shots, that you feel need to be better color matched to the original do let me know the shot/the shots number.

As far as audio, I have to convert much of the deleted scenes that are stereo to 5.1 yet as well as do a balance out of it post conversion. The audio is usually the last I do right before the final version or in Raider’s case, 1.8 and 2.0. I would probably finish 2.0 and then go back and remove the “B” footage for 1.8. So there will be a final pass for audio specifically before calling it done.The reason I even release versions with audio that is still in process is that even with stereo a decent receiver can translate it to surround somewhat acceptable (sony/ pioneer receivers etc). But yea I hear ya. Don’t worry I’ll mix it as best I can on some of the deleted - mainly it’s just getting dialogue in the center channel and balancing the other channels.

For those of you who have been following this one, know I have taken a break from it to switch gears over to ANH. I want to at least get that up to the cantina and then finish ESB V1 and I plan to get back to Raiders in June, so not too much longer I will be diving back into this one.

That all sounds great; yes, the deleted scenes you mentioned were the ones that stood out the most in terms of the colour grade and audio. I have been following the changes you’ve made to ANH (which are great!), so hopefully once that’s done you’ll be able to get back into Indy again. 😃

hawkfrost300 said:

These look so great! Would you consider sharing a link with me?

I’ll send you a PM!

Hi kg1977,

I’ve just started watching v6 of your edit, and was wondering if the restoration you’re doing on the deleted scenes are still a work-in-progress or not? The clips are of significantly lower quality than the main film, plus the colour correction doesn’t match the main film either.

You’ve written that you have restored deleted scenes; which software are you using for this?

Are you upscaling the footage? Some of the deleted clips, such as the shot of Satipo walking in the jungle, as well as the shot of the Jovitos Indians shooting their poison darts at Indy, are almost unwatchable.
If you’re upscaling, it would be worth doing more tests and experimentation with settings to get better results.

Is the audio for the deleted scenes a work-in-progress too? There was a big shift in audio quality for the scene of Satipo falling through the hole. Did you not have the soundtrack or separate SFX to make the scene work? Right now it’s not seamless at all, and the colour grading makes it look like a different film altogether.

Also, is the audio for the deleted scenes 2.0 instead of 5.1? It would be worth converting the audio to 5.1, which would go a long way to having a more balanced sound in the edit.

Please know that this is constructive criticism – your ideas for the film are great, so it would be a shame to not have high-quality audio and video throughout the entire film.

DarthTzetzo said:

Bobson Dugnutt in his expanded edition of TPM used these shots and I think they were of relatively good quality.

I’ve sent him a private message at the SW Trilogy forums. Hopefully I’ll hear back from him soon!

tjdavis1138 said:

I can’t thank you enough Phase3. I was getting so tired of my extended cut dvd’s I did years ago of the prequels. lol.

I’m glad that you like the upscales I’ve done! 👍🏽

Jedi Matt said:

I love what you are doing, and I know of at least one person who would love to see what you could do with the Clone Wars deleted scenes: me!!!

Thanks for your kind words!

I did take a look at the deleted scenes on the Clone Wars Blu-ray, and they’re in really good condition. I’m not sure that upscaling them would provide a drastically improved image.
After several other projects have been completed, I will do some tests on the footage, and see if upscaling them would be worth doing.

Update:
The main footage of the Jedi and Sith duel from one of the DVD documentaries is ready to go, however the second documentary video, which has deleted footage of the Naboo starfighters and some more of the duel (with Maul, Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon leaping to the upper walkway), is of significantly lower quality.

I’m seeing if other upscaling settings will get the image to look good, but for now this video isn’t worth sharing as it simply doesn’t look good.

JoyOfEditing said:

Phase3 said:

JoyOfEditing said:

I’m looking for those reels as well. . . Here’s a good list of names from the “Rebel Mac Unit” at ILM that worked on most of the fighter shots. You might have more luck searching than I currently am.

https://www.lucasfilm.com/news/digital-road-rebel-mac/

Thanks so much for the link - that helps a lot! Yesterday I found a very large amount of VFX reels online, however without the names of the staff who worked on the scene, I’d be endlessly searching through each video. Now I can narrow down my search!

If you PM me some of the reel links, I’d be happy to help scan through them. Mindless work like that is great when I get stuck on an edit, lol!

Okay! I’ll send you some links. 😃

JoyOfEditing said:

I’m looking for those reels as well. . . Here’s a good list of names from the “Rebel Mac Unit” at ILM that worked on most of the fighter shots. You might have more luck searching than I currently am.

https://www.lucasfilm.com/news/digital-road-rebel-mac/

Thanks so much for the link - that helps a lot! Yesterday I found a very large amount of VFX reels online, however without the names of the staff who worked on the scene, I’d be endlessly searching through each video. Now I can narrow down my search!

An update:
JoyOfEditing sent me a message, in which he reminded me of the footage in one of the early TPM trailers, which shows the Naboo starfighter spinning out of control. I had forgotten about the trailers!

For the shot of the starfighter, I will extract the footage from the trailer and upscale it. I’m also looking through ILM VFX reels uploaded by ILM staff; hopefully I’ll find some more starfighter footage.

Here is a comparison between the DVD footage, and the 35mm trailer:
DVD:

35mm trailer:

JoyOfEditing said:

Bro, you just gave me flashbacks to my early days as a producer, when basically all I did was de-interlace BETACAM footage. . .

Sorry for the flashbacks! 😅
Deinterlacing can be a real pain though haha!

DarthTzetzo said:

I remember that Dazman in his edit of PTM had restored some unused footage of the Duel of Fates from behind the scenes videos.

Yes that’s right! He’s asked me about those clips; as I’m typing this the upscaled video is being exported, so all going well I should be able to upload it soon. 😃

I’ll send you a PM. 👍🏽

For anyone interested in the extra footage of the Jedi & Sith duel, I’ve had some success in removing the “ghost frames” and heavy interlacing:

Before:

After:

Once the upscaling process has finished, I’ll upload them and share them.

tjdavis1138 said:
Include me as well please!

I’ll send you a PM. 👍🏽

JoyOfEditing said:

Fantastic work as always, boss! Given the original picture quality, I think this pass is about as much quality as you can possibly squeeze out of those frames. That must have been a ton of work to get the settings right!

I’m not familiar with the extra laser sword footage. How many extra shots of Duel of the Fates are there? And do you reckon any of them in particular are worth re-inserting?

Thanks for the kind words!
There are several extra shots of the duel, a lot of which are definitely worth re-inserting into the film.

I’ll PM you with some more details!

Hrmusicguy1 said:

Hey, can I get a link for the streamlined edits? Thanks!

Only AOTC is available at the moment. I’ll send you a PM. 👍🏽

I’ve upscaled the deleted scenes from TPM, all sourced from the original NTSC DVD. Each video is a H.264 MKV with captions, and AAC 5.1 audio.

Important notes:
No colour correction has been done; I’ll leave that for each individual editor to decide upon how they wish the video to look.
The videos on the DVD only have reasonably good quality; these upscales have improved the picture quality, however don’t expect brilliant, crystal-clear, hyper-detailed images here.

Screen-shots:
Original video:

Upscaled:

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If you’re interested in these upscales, send me a PM and I’ll send you a link!

Extra videos:
These videos contain the unique shots found in two of the short documentaries on the DVD. These aren’t the entire videos – I’ve only saved a majority of the unique, useable footage.

Compared to the deleted scenes, these videos are very heavily interlaced, plus have “ghost frames”, and require much more processing to get them to look good. These issues are present on the original DVD unfortunately. Therefore, these two videos aren’t quite ready yet to share, but will be finalised soon.

When I do upload them, please note that there will be no captions or audio available for these two videos.

Original video:

Upscaled:

Original video:

Upscaled:

I have also done colour-corrected versions for my own edit of TPM; some of these are finished, however these videos haven’t been uploaded as yet.

JoyOfEditing said:

. . . Phase3 this is all your fault. . .

Hahaha! 😃

I will be cleaning up / restoring the footage, plus upscaling it too. I’m currently searching through my files to find the best copy of the footage.
Oh and I have some footage that isn’t on YouTube – I’ll send you a message about that, plus the AOTC & ROTS footage we chatted about via PM.

paranoia32 said:

Hope you are doing well and your work is progressing!

I’d be really interested in seeing the your edit! Hope that is still possible?

It’s progressing slowly, however it is still being worked on. I’ve been very busy with other projects, but am still keen to get this one finished.

That guy with no name said:

First shot completed on the new computer. Absolutely incredible fast processing and smooth playback.

https://streamable.com/dmbl94
New sequence coming soon.

That shot looks great!

Ahh very interesting! Thanks for the information. 😃