Spence:
First of all, thanks very much for making a smaller file size available, for those of us with relatively small download limits! That was appreciated.
Mate, let me start by saying that your edit does a fantastic job of condensing the six episodes into one smoothly-flowing movie.
For an edit presenting the story as a feature length movie, without any major alterations or restructuring, your edit definitely does the job extremely well!
I can see how much work went into the audio work too, in order to have the soundtrack and sound effects all work properly. Well done!

You made some great choices when excluding some scenes, in particular:
AOTC flashback – I’m really glad you removed this scene, as it really belongs in an AOTC edit!
No rooftop chase.
Tala not being delayed by the Imperial Officer on the planet with the Inquisitor’s fortress.
No scene of Leia running away from Obi-Wan on Daiyu.

Some suggestions and observations:
Would you consider adding in more transition wipes, where applicable throughout the movie?

Might I suggest a trim to the long-winded, exposition-filled speech by the Grand Inquisitor on Tatooine? It really does go on for a long time!

If you wanted to trim your edit a bit more, how about cutting the scene of Obi-Wan finding the buried Lightsabers? Desert sands shift very quickly over time, and the likelihood of finding the box in exactly the same position as where he buried it years earlier is extremely unlikely.

The scene where Flea / Needles confronts Obi-Wan is missing some context. Needles says “I didn’t know Jedi could bleed”. The scene beforehand, of Obi-Wan confronting two other guards has been deleted, which would give context as to why Obi-Wan had a bloody nose.

On Daiyu, Obi-Wan tells Haja that “The bounty is on me”. Since you deleted the earlier scene showing the bounty being placed, this line is now out of context. Also, the droid being shot by Haja now makes no sense, as the audience has no idea if the droid is a bounty hunter or not. Some parts of the earlier scene of the bounty being placed are required I think!

During the escape from Jabiim, you cut to Obi-Wan telling Roken that this is a great plan, however you’ve deleted the scene beforehand, leaving the audience wondering “what plan?”. You might need to include at least some of the plan in order for the next scene to make sense.

Overall, your edit is great!!

Cheers,

Ice said:

Phase3 said:

I posted this in NFBism’s thread, but also wanted to get other people’s thought on this:

How about an alternate ending to the show?

I like it !

Thanks mate!

Kaweebo said:

jkimm said:

Sirius said:

Many thanks for your kind words! I hope that this is something that NFBisms might consider for his edit!

I posted this in NFBism’s thread, but also wanted to get other people’s thought on this:

How about an alternate ending to the show?
I was thinking about the following:
During the second duel between Obi-Wan and Vader, instead of Obi-Wan walking away, getting into his starship and going to Tatooine, what if it’s Vader leaving Obi-Wan for dead, and leaving the planet first?

In ROTS, Obi-Wan left Anakin for dead on Mustafar. How about Vader now does the same to Obi-Wan?
It could be carefully edited like this:

Vader’s helmet is sliced open /
“Goodbye, Darth” /
Delete the extra shots of Vader walking slowly with no dialogue /
Vader kneels down and yells “Obi-Wan!” /
Use the shot of Vader’s hand slamming into the ground /
Flipped shot of the ground breaking, so that it matches correctly with where Obi-Wan is & where the camera angle should be /
Obi-Wan falls /
Rocks fall down on top of him straight away - no further input from Vader - no need for him to be standing at the edge /
Relocate audio used earlier for the overhead shot of Vader “Did you truly think that you could defeat me? You have failed” /
As Vader speaks, do a slow, steady zoom-in on Vader, so it’s a bit different to what was shown in the episode /
Vader leaves the planet (would need to find a good shot of Vader’s shuttle flying in space) /
Obi-Wan has the visions of Luke and Leia, inspiring him to go on / Obi-Wan frees himself, leaves the planet, and goes into hyperspace (no visions of Luke whilst in the starship, to accommodate the removal of the awful Tatooine sequences in the sixth episode).

What do you all think?

Would you consider an alternate ending to the show?
I was thinking about the following:
During the second duel between Obi-Wan and Vader, instead of Obi-Wan walking away, getting into his starship and going to Tatooine, what if it’s Vader leaving Obi-Wan for dead, and leaving the planet first?

In ROTS, Obi-Wan left Anakin for dead on Mustafar. How about Vader now does the same to Obi-Wan?
It could be carefully edited like this:

Vader’s helmet is sliced open /
“Goodbye, Darth” /
Delete the extra shots of Vader walking slowly with no dialogue /
Vader kneels down and yells “Obi-Wan!” /
Use the shot of Vader’s hand slamming into the ground /
Flipped shot of the ground breaking, so that it matches correctly with where Obi-Wan is & where the camera angle should be /
Obi-Wan falls /
Rocks fall down on top of him straight away - no further input from Vader - no need for him to be standing at the edge /
Relocate audio used earlier for the overhead shot of Vader “Did you truly think that you could defeat me? You have failed” /
As Vader speaks, do a slow, steady zoom-in on Vader, so it’s a bit different to what was shown in the episode /
Vader leaves the planet (would need to find a good shot of Vader’s shuttle flying in space) /
Obi-Wan has the visions of Luke and Leia, inspiring him to go on / Obi-Wan frees himself, leaves the planet, and goes into hyperspace (no visions of Luke whilst in the starship, to accommodate the removal of the awful Tatooine sequences in the sixth episode).

What do you think?

This all sounds fantastic! I’m looking forward to seeing what you do with this edit!

revel911 said:

Phase3 said:

For anyone who is going to do their own fan edit, I’ve made a simple new opening crawl, which I have sent to Anjohan, who has said to me that it’ll be included as a separate file for anyone who wishes to use it. 😃

I have done 3x opening crawls, and each crawl has a different movie title:
1a Kenobi.
1b Kenobi A Star Wars Story.
1c Obi-Wan Kenobi.
Please note that I’ve done these in the same style as the main movies Episodes I-VI, and not in the style seen in ‘Rogue One’ or the Kenobi TV series.
There is also a camera pan down to Tatooine, plus a ‘fan edit’ information screen and opening fanfare & title cards etc.

Cheers!

Why does it have to say Kenobi vs a more Star Wars like title?

Hey mate,

I only wrote these versions based upon what other people in this thread have asked about. Please take a look a few pages back, where Anjohan was asking people about what title to use for the edit.

For my own edit, I’ll come up with a completely different title!

Sirius said:

Phase3 said:

For anyone who is going to do their own fan edit, I’ve made a simple new opening crawl, which I have sent to Anjohan, who has said to me that it’ll be included as a separate file for anyone who wishes to use it. 😃

I have done 3x opening crawls, and each crawl has a different movie title:
1a Kenobi.
1b Kenobi A Star Wars Story.
1c Obi-Wan Kenobi.
Please note that I’ve done these in the same style as the main movies Episodes I-VI, and not in the style seen in ‘Rogue One’ or the Kenobi TV series.
There is also a camera pan down to Tatooine, plus a ‘fan edit’ information screen and opening fanfare & title cards etc.

Cheers!

Hmm, good to know! What’s the text of the crawl?

Hey mate,

I’ll send you a PM with what I’ve written. 😃

Cheers,

For anyone who is going to do their own fan edit, I’ve made a simple new opening crawl, which I have sent to Anjohan, who has said to me that it’ll be included as a separate file for anyone who wishes to use it. 😃

I have done 3x opening crawls, and each crawl has a different movie title:
1a Kenobi.
1b Kenobi A Star Wars Story.
1c Obi-Wan Kenobi.
Please note that I’ve done these in the same style as the main movies Episodes I-VI, and not in the style seen in ‘Rogue One’ or the Kenobi TV series.
There is also a camera pan down to Tatooine, plus a ‘fan edit’ information screen and opening fanfare & title cards etc.

Cheers!

GLogus said:

I have a problem, generally, with how Kenobi is routinely made to look like in idiot. Up until this series, Kenobi was highly competent, thoughtful, intelligent, stoic, level-headed, steadfast, and reliable. He retains some of this in the new series, but his character is wildly inconsistent from scene to scene. My problem with the scene you are referring to, is that neither Obi-Wan nor Leia are being true to their actual characters. Leia is often presented as an adult in a child’s body, and Kenobi is often depicted as a clueless, bumbling idiot. I don’t remember the details of this scene that well, but I remember thinking it was pretty cringe for that reason.

Agreed! This seems to be the Disney method of writing, which can be seen in their other series too.
In “The Book Of Boba Fett”, we get ‘dumb Boba / smart Fennec’, in this series, Disney have gone too far in making Obi-Wan look lost, weak and pathetic. Instead of showing a man who has suffered trauma, with the associated mental and emotional health issues that go along with that, Disney have pushed it a bit too far – Obi-Wan in this series is nothing like what we have seen in the original films I-VI.

DZ-330 said:

You could cut the whole swimming scene and go directly to the stormtrooper opening the door and Obi-Wan choking him out. You can assume he’s wet from being in the “sewers”.

Order the scenes as:

• Obi confronts Haja
• Obi in the streets
• Random creatures
• Elevator
• Imperials monitoring the computers
• Stormtrooper opening door and Obi’s: "I’m in’

This will also help to explain why he didn’t have to swim back with Leia.

Shorten Haja’s dialogue to Obi in the streets:
“Alright if it’s the sewers you want there’s only one place to go. I’ll buy you as much time as I can.”

Let’s not have Haja spell out his “making amends” intentions to the audience like we’re too dumb to understand.

Edit: Haja is a Jedi fanboy. Of course he wants to help a real one.

This is fantastic!
The removal of Haja saying “taking a break”, as well as “making amends” would be great editing choices, as Obi-Wan didn’t ask Haja for that information, so including it at that point in the movie would be unnecessary exposition.

Anjohan:
I’m not sure if this has been talked about before - I’ve not seen it mentioned yet (not that I remember!): the Disney Lightsabers make a few sparks when they hit each other, as opposed to the brief white flashes seen in the original Star Wars movies.
Is this something that can be corrected, so that the Lightsabers match what is seen throughout Episodes I-VI?

Anjohan said:

Video Update - The Full Escape [Beta ? ]

https://streamable.com/afhtpd

-> (Re-)Added Intercom Dialogue with Haja, and some new dialogue to create some character growth and motivation.
-> Added shadows and enviorement interaction to and from door, in the escape part (at the end).
-> a lot more.

This is great! It sells the idea that the rescue takes place all on the one planet.

NFBisms said:

This is something I put together in the other Kenobi redux thread, just in case it could be relevant to this project in some way:

NFBisms said:

I was one of those suckers who was actually really excited for Obi-Wan Kenobi (2022) because Deborah Chow and Kelley DIxon’s work on Better Call Saul and Breaking Bad fuckin’ rule. Needless to say, that was a bit misguided.

So I took a crack at editing the show to be closer in tone and style to what I expected out of BB-verse alumni.

I don’t think I’m going to do the whole show, but it was just a fun little experiment. The edit isn’t supposed to be like BB/BCS fwiw, just approaching the material with some of the storytelling philosophy I learned from them.

At the very least, Deborah Chow’s sensibilities as a director were still conducive to being arranged in this way so at least some of my excitement wasn’t unfounded

This is really great!
Anjohan: I hope that you use this in your edit! 😉

Broom Kid said:

I was wondering - it’d probably necessitate some VFX work alongside some sound effects reconstruction and flipping some shots for continuity/180-degree rule - if there’s a way to reconstruct the duel so it ENDS with Ben getting buried, Vader walking off, and Ben escaping the hole and leaving the planet.

Basically, duel starts as normal, when we get to the part where Obi-Wan tries to topple a pillar and Vader catches it, throws it at him, cut to the 2nd half of the fight where Ben is out of the hole, they clash again, Obi-Wan throws him, then throws all the rocks at him and cuts his helmet half off. They talk, Obi-Wan says “Goodbye, Darth” and then after Vader screams “Obi-Wan” then have him slap the ground and send him into the hole?

It’d be tricky (aside from shaving some shots down carefully and re-using one or two from earlier in the duel - and might necessitate generating sparks from the helmet and/or some head replacement of cracked helmet Vader) but it honestly seems like that’s how the fight SHOULD go. Vader literally “leaves” Obi-Wan (When I left you…) and thinks he’s dead, and walks off. Obi-Wan escapes with nobody knowing he’s gone and heads back to Tatooine to watch over Luke (who is in that vision that inspires him to push all the rocks out of the way and jump out of the hole)

Once he’s out of the hole just cut to the ship leaving the planet.

This is such a great suggestion, one which I will try out for my own edit!

Obi-Wan left Vader for dead in ROTS, and now Vader can do the same here.

21C Peasant said:

A minor thought:

When Vader says, “Prepare my ship”, it reminds me too much of Kylo. I’d prefer “Prepare my shuttle”, possibly taking “shuttle” from ESB.

To me, that just sounds way more Vader.

That’s what I thought too! “Shuttle” sounds far more appropriate.

Anjohan said:

So, what about Reeva?

Her entire story in EP 6 is CUT. Not because I hate her character (although I am not fond of it), but simply because her story fit the series format but definitely not the film format I am going for. This is really the story about Obi-Wan overcoming his grief and truma, something that becomes very obvious when you trim the fat and the cringe and pace the film into a working film format. In a series format Reeva has her place, even if her place is forced into the story, but in this film and definitely in the climax parts of it she does not belong at all. Although she is in the film, her presence is only granted when it serves the story.

I’m so glad to hear this! Reva during episodes 1-4 was ruthless and angry; Disney ruined the character with the weak “redemption arc” nonsense. Why can’t Disney let villains be villains?

Oh and since when did Lightsabers no longer kill people? It seems that the Disney Lightsabers give little more than flesh wounds. Both the Grand Inquisitor and Reva survived being stabbed in the stomach…what poor writing this is…The whole “revenge does wonders for one’s will to live” line is utter nonsense. Why can’t Disney let characters die?

Obi-Wan not killing off Vader in the final episode was…odd.

Anjohan: your most recent video updates for the final episode look and sound great, especially the third video! Going from leaving Vader behind, to Alderaan is a fine choice!

Is there a way to cut the episodes so that at the end of episode 5, the refugees depart the planet, Obi-Wan leaves the ship to confront Vader, and the refugees jump into hyperspace? As in: remove the “chase” (and I use the term lightly) with the Star Destroyer altogether? Not using the tractor beam, not sending out TIE Fighters, and not simply blasting the starship into oblivion makes no sense at all.
Removing this chase would remove the more silly aspects of episode 6; just cut to the important stuff:
Reva’s fate is unknown (presumably dies) / The people escape / Obi-Wan leaves the starship / Obi-Wan confronts Vader / Goes to see Leia / Goes to see Luke.

Or: what if Obi-Wan doesn’t leaves Jabiim with the refugees at all? As in:
Reva’s fate is unknown (presumably dies) / Obi-Wan asks the fake Jedi to take Leia home / Obi-Wan stays behind / The people escape & jump to hyperspace / Obi-Wan confronts Vader / Goes to see Leia / Goes to see Luke.

Furthermore, is it possible to only have 1x kidnapping with 1x rescue of Leia, as opposed to 2x of each? It reeks of bad writing to have two of every event happening!

What do you think?

Anjohan said:

Would people like to see the Anakin & Obi-Wan sparring sequence as a whole in the beginning of the film, as a memory when Obi-Wan is dreaming, before later showing up again in the way it is presented in EP 5 (apart from cuts and trims)?

The reason I ask is because introducing it as a happy memory, for instance BEFORE the bad memories/flashback nightmare sequence, could start the film with a kind of realization that those happy times are definitively over, and also have Anakin’s death (sort of) kind of looming even harder over the overall film. Not to mention it is impactful to have the seeds of Anakin’s arrogance re-planted before “EP 5 happens”.

The downside and the counter-arguement is of course that the viewer might feel less impacted by the flashback, and perhaps the film starts on one too many of them.

Share your views - I would be very interested to hear them.

I’d love to see the AOTC flashback portrayed as Obi-Wan’s dream in the beginning, instead of the re-used footage from the three prequel films. Flashbacks in the fifth episode (and I’d argue that flashbacks being used at all) are wholly unnecessary, and to me breaks the flow of the story.

Obi-Wan’s dream sequence seems to be an excuse to use more footage from the prequels (filler footage). It even shows Anakin in situations that Obi-Wan wasn’t even physically present for (namely young Anakin in the Naboo Starfighter).
You wouldn’t even need to use the entire AOTC flashback as a dream sequence, you’d need just enough footage to illustrate Anakin’s anger and need for victory.

Anjohan said:

And of course things can be edited around, but I find Obi-Wan to be a more interesting character with all this baggage (regardless of copy-paste Luke TLJ storyline and some trimmed moments from ep 1 with Organa) than someone who goes straight back to Badass after meeting Vader and two minutes in a bacta tank. In fact, even though he starts out as TLJ Luke, his character arc is way more fitting to the losses he has endured and his growth in the series far more rewarding than TLJ Luke ever came near to. And with that in mind, diminishing the importance of a redemption arc done well because of the failures of another film should NOT make Obi-Wan - as it’s own thing - sacrifice a working series component because of the mirrored arc with a character arc that did absolutely and utterly NOT work. And I’d debate anyone that I’d rather watch episode 4 WITH the cringe ten times unpaid than watching The Last Jedi or The Rise of Skywalker one time with payment.

I 100% agree; maintaining the emotional component of Obi-Wan’s character arc in this series is vital to the show. He is much more of an interesting character that the audience can get emotionally invested in, knowing that he has gone through trauma and is now regaining his composure and focus in life.

IlFanEditore said:

There are already some attempts at de-aging Anakin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhPmdlUuwOI

That’s the best one I’ve seen so far! I’ll be using that for my AOTC edit. 😉

I’m wondering, if you cut out episode four entirely, how will you work around how the Empire was able to track down Obi-Wan and Leia? The tracking device was in Leia’s droid, plus the little droid was responsible for shutting the door; if you excise episode four, would it not create an inconsistency / continuity error?

I second your call for a ‘deepfake’ of Anakin! I was surprised to see the current-day Hayden in that scene as opposed to an AOTC-era Hayden; it would have looked great if there was a ‘de-ageing’ process applied!

Another thought (for a different fan edit): could the flashback of Obi-Wan & Anakin be easily incorporated into an AOTC fan edit? It would need the ‘deepfake’ treatment, but I think it would look great if it could be used elsewhere. Also, the ROTS Jedi Temple flashback at the start of episode one would look great in an ROTS fan edit. But, these are thoughts for other fan edits haha!

Anjohan said:

Part IV has to be cut. Episode 5 was decent enough. Gotta trim stuff for sure. A lot of things looked like a B movie, and there were some deliveries that were off.

The flashback with Anakin will probably be included when he’s in the Bacta Tank. I’ll also have to take a look at deepfaking his face. Or perhaps someone on YouTube will do it for me/for us.

This was episode 5, and the narrative overall has been very underwhelming thus far. Although the episode on its own was okay, the pay-off for FOUR episodes of literally two plot lines is just… pathetic?

The odd thing I found with episode 4 was the exchange between Leia and Reva. It went on for far too long, with tired old dialogue found in a thousand other movies.
How about cutting it so that after Leia says “I’ll never tell you where they are”, Reva then gets the Stormtroopers to take Leia away. No more long-winded, boring conversations!

The Disney style of writing is atrocious…

The rest of the episode was great though! It’s so good to see Obi-Wan in action again!

Hello all,

My apologies if this has been asked before! As per the thread title, does anyone know of any deepfakes that replace the CGI faces on the stunt doubles during Palpatine’s duel with Mace in ROTS, and Dooku’s duel with Yoda in AOTC?
Even back in 2002 and 2005 the CGI looked awful in the cinema; hopefully we can get those shots replaced!

Cheers,

I love your ideas for this edit! The preview clips you’ve done look fantastic. 😃
Could I make a suggestion? How about removing Reva’s unnecessary dialogue at the end of the conversation with the other Inquisitors?
Inquisitor: "I will get what I deserve, Third Sister, and so will you!”. The camera then goes to Reva; cut it there, leaving her in silence.
Cut her timewasting speech of “I hope so. I certainly hope so”.
It’s much more dramatic to leave her in silence, rather than have her voicing her thoughts to an empty room.

Oh cool! Thanks for your offer of giving this a try! I’m not sure what’s involved in doing something like this; hopefully it won’t be a monumental task.
Let me know if I can help you out at all!

Cheers!

The Star Wars Purist said:

I can most certainly try.
The only problem (maybe) is that the final product will be in 720p, due to my editing/effects software’s free plan limitations.

However, this doesn’t stop me from doing things like this.