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#527204
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The Secret of NIMH (And its Wannabe Sequel, Timmy to the Rescue) (And apparently, the Books, too)
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bkev said:

If I had to guess, I would say you just saw either the first or second movie for the first time. The '90s were great for so-bad-it's-good straight to video gold.

I've only ever seen Timmy to the Rescue once, and I have no intention of watching it again.  The original, I've seen regularly since I first watched it.  That was months ago.  Heck, I'm even editing videos using clips from Secret of NIMH!  Unless you're talking about American Tail, which I remember from WAAAAAAY back into my childhood.  Come to think of it, I do remember in my childhood watching Secret of NIMH.  I remembered illness being involved (perhaps my own?) and that one shot of Mr. Ages slamming the door in Mrs. Brisby's face.  In French.

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#527196
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Random Thoughts
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doubleofive said:

 

xhonzi said:



Pennsylvania Jones said:

Everybody's got a water buffalo.

Yours is fast, but mine is slow.

Where do we get them?  I don't know.

But everybody's got a water buffalo.


STOP STOP STOP!!!!  YOU CAN'T SAY THAT EVERYONE HAS A WATER BUFFALO WHEN IT'S CLEAR THAT NOT EVERYONE HAS A WATER BUFFALO!
This is true. He's going to have people calling saying "Where's my water buffalo? Why don't I have a water buffalo?" I don't think he's prepared to deal with that and should stop being so silly.

 

 

Nice!

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Glad to see some Veggietales fans here.

 

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Everybody's got a baby kangaroo.

Yours is pink but mine is blue.

Hers was small, but then it grew.

Yes, everybody's got a baby kangaroo.

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#527193
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The Secret of NIMH (And its Wannabe Sequel, Timmy to the Rescue) (And apparently, the Books, too)
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Well, this is interesting.  I go to IMDB and look up the credits for Fievel Goes West, and I couldn't find Don Bluth's name anywhere.  I could've sworn he did this one...

In any case, Fievel Goes West was still a theatrical sequel, and, IMO, is the best Bluth sequel ever made.  Now, if only Secret of NIMH got the same treatment.  (Just saying...)

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#527107
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The Secret of NIMH (And its Wannabe Sequel, Timmy to the Rescue) (And apparently, the Books, too)
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darth_ender said:

Pennsylvania Jones said:

darth_ender said:

Don Bluth was the only competition to Disney for some time, and he did it on a fraction of the budget.  He really was brilliant, and his other three great successes in my mind were An American Tail, Anastasia, and Land Before Time.  Not much of a fan of All Dogs Go to Heaven, and Titan AE was only okay.  Still, his style, grit, and depth far exceeds the superficiality of most Disney films.  Don't get me wrong, I enjoy many Disney movies, but I really find Bluth brilliant.  Yep, yep, yep!

Of those, I've seen American Tail (both Bluth films and both direct-to-video sequels), Anastasia (barely remember it, though, other than the dismembered bad guy), Land Before Time (not sure how many of them I've seen, but there were a lot of them), and Titan AE (Something to pass the time along).  I don't mind the American Tale direct-to-video movies as much as I do Timmy to the Rescue.  That's because with American Tail, you're EXPECTING it to be a musical.  The movies are SUPPOSED to be about Fievel.  Secret of NIMH is NOT supposed to be a musical, nor is it about a bratty Timothy.  The songs in both definitely could've been better, though.

FYI Bluth did not take part in any sequel to any of these series.  He only did the first film establishing a legacy that others could make cheesy and/or crappy sequels to.

I did read Mrs. Frisby, followed by Racso, by the way, and was impressed with the first book, and surprisingly equally enjoyed the second, though written by a different author many years after the first.  The successor managed to capture both the style and the characters in my opinion.  Of course that had to be at least 15 years ago for me, but still...

He did Fievel Goes West.  It was MGM's idea to do those dumb sequels.

I suppose you haven't read RT, Margaret, and the Rats of NIMH yet?

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#526838
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The Secret of NIMH (And its Wannabe Sequel, Timmy to the Rescue) (And apparently, the Books, too)
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darth_ender said:

Don Bluth was the only competition to Disney for some time, and he did it on a fraction of the budget.  He really was brilliant, and his other three great successes in my mind were An American Tail, Anastasia, and Land Before Time.  Not much of a fan of All Dogs Go to Heaven, and Titan AE was only okay.  Still, his style, grit, and depth far exceeds the superficiality of most Disney films.  Don't get me wrong, I enjoy many Disney movies, but I really find Bluth brilliant.  Yep, yep, yep!

Of those, I've seen American Tail (both Bluth Theatrical films and both direct-to-video sequels), Anastasia (barely remember it, though, other than the dismembered bad guy), Land Before Time (not sure how many of them I've seen, but there were a lot of them), and Titan AE (Something to pass the time along).  I don't mind the American Tale direct-to-video movies as much as I do Timmy to the Rescue.  That's because with American Tail, you're EXPECTING it to be a musical.  The movies are SUPPOSED to be about Fievel.  Secret of NIMH is NOT supposed to be a musical, nor is it about a bratty Timothy.  The songs in both definitely could've been better, though.

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#526837
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The Secret of NIMH (And its Wannabe Sequel, Timmy to the Rescue) (And apparently, the Books, too)
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Chewtobacca said:

Pennsylvania Jones said: Believe me, one view is enough.

I can well believe it.  :)

Has anyone seen the BD of The Secret of Nimh yet?

Well, the first time I saw the film was on Netflix Instant Watch in HD, though I have no doubt that the Blu-Ray is much better quality.  Too bad about that dirtiness.  It seems that a Blu-Ray movie made from a good transfer is pretty hard to find.

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#526714
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Lost in Space!!! (Or, if you prefer, Lost IN SPAAAAAAAAAAACE!!!)
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DuracellEnergizer said:

My experience with Lost in Space is pretty much limited to the film and a few of the film's tie-in novels and comics. I liked the film as a kid, loved the part of the film where they stumble upon and explore the ghost ship, but I haven't seen it in years so I don't know how it would hold up for me if I were to watch it again.

On another semi-related note, my dad, who was a fan of the show when he was a kid, recently re-watched the movie and didn't like it at all.

Watch the TV show, and you will end up liking both the Movie AND the show.  That worked for me. :)

 

BTW, here's a list of all the Lost in Space Robots, in the order of my favorite to my least favorite:

Rebuilt Movie (Based strictly on looks, and because he's the one who starred in the computer game that got me into Lost in Space)

Original B9 (Definitely the most charismatic of the bunch)

Big Blue Movie (The holographic interface is SWEET)

Adam (Terrible, Terrible, Terrible)

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#526712
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The Secret of NIMH (And its Wannabe Sequel, Timmy to the Rescue) (And apparently, the Books, too)
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DoubleKO said:

I didn't know there was a trilogy. Or even a second one.

There are two movies and three books.  The second book is called Racso and the Rats of NIMH, and the third book is called RT, Margaret, and the Rats of NIMH.  You should check them out of the library when you get the chance.  The only thing I don't like is that they keep changing the main characters in each book.  Quit passing the stupid torch already!  (Hmm...  Mrs. Frisby and the Rats of NIMH, Racso and the Rats of NIMH, RT Margaret and the Rats of NIMH...  Indiana Jones and the Rats of NIMH?)

Chewtobacca said:

I hadn't realized that there were other films either, so I'd be curious to see them, even if they are terrible.  I'm a fan of the original film (and the book) too. :)

Technically, it's sequel isn't so much a film, as it is a telecine.  Believe me, one view is enough.

DuracellEnergizer said:

I saw The Secret of NIMH once, back in seventh grade, and didn't like it because it deviated too much from the book, which I really liked.

I felt the same way about the new Chronicles of Narnia movies, but in the end it turned out that I liked them.  Maybe you'll like Secret of NIMH, too.

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#526621
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The Secret of NIMH (And its Wannabe Sequel, Timmy to the Rescue) (And apparently, the Books, too)
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Well, you have Wham-o Inc. to blame for that.  When I first saw the movie, I thought Brisby was a little bit hard to pronounce.  'Course, now, I'm used to it.  I've read the entire Rats of NIMH trilogy shortly after seeing the movie and direct-to-video sequel.  I think Racso and the Rats of NIMH is my favorite of the books, particularly because Mrs. Frisby got more screen time in it than Mrs. Brisby did in Timmy to the Rescue.  Why couldn't they have made Secret of NIMH 2 based around that?

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#526609
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The Secret of NIMH (And its Wannabe Sequel, Timmy to the Rescue) (And apparently, the Books, too)
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I've had conversations about Secret of NIMH with Green Penguino and Ziggy in my introduction thread, so I know there are at LEAST two secret of NIMH fans on this forum.

Here, we can talk about both the movie AND its horrible sequel.

To start off, I'd like to point out similarities between The Secret of NIMH and Star Wars:

 

The Originals...

both have a scene involving using telekinesis to move something big out of a swamp.

both have comic relief characters.

both have one sequence where the female lead isn't wearing enough clothing.

 

Their Follow-Ups...

both use low-quality animation/effects.

both have an annoying "comic relief" character.  (I've already made several cracks at this on this forum)

both involve a whiny kid being the "chosen one" who eventually fulfills his destiny.  (The only difference is that Anakin actually DID do something to fulfill his destiny; all Timmy did was...  wait...  what DID Timmy do?)

 

Well, I guess that's it with the comparisons.

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#526594
Topic
Lost in Space!!! (Or, if you prefer, Lost IN SPAAAAAAAAAAACE!!!)
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This thread is for talk about Lost in Space.  We can talk about all three facets: The awesome TV show, the awesome (or awful, if you will) Bruce Broughton Concert/Robot Demonstration/Light Show (I know there's a better word to describe it, but I just can't seem to place it...), and the awful '04 unsold pilot (David Robinson?  Baby Penny?  No Smith?).

To start off, my first exposure to Lost in Space was a computer game tie-in for the movie (I was a child then).  After a few years of playing that, I ended up seeing the movie on DVD.  I wasn't as interested in the characters as I was in the Robot.  I hated the Big Blue version, and I cheered at the first sight of the Rebuilt version (The rebuilt version was the one that starred in the computer game I played).  The only thing that kept me watching the movie was the sight of that robot.

After that, I got the first season of Lost in Space on DVD.  At first, the sight of the different characters was...  unsettling.  But I got used to it, and now it's a great show!  But, since then, I only got the second volume of the third season, as well as the movie on Blu-Ray.  I still don't own any of the second season, or even the first volume of the third season. >:(  Oh, well...

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#526268
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How would YOU re-do the prequels?
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Gaffer Tape said:

Knightmessenger said:
Gaffer Tape said:

Well, considering the Force, lightsabers, and mind tricks were all explained in the first movie, they really didn't need expositing again.

But according to Lucas, we're supposed to watch the movies in "Saga order." So then why would most stuff be explained only in Star Wars? Could it be that Lucas really made the series to be watched 4-6, 1-3?

That's a big reason why I would recommend a newcoming to see the OT first.

 

Exactly.  That's my point.  Despite Lucas's claims of what he wanted, he clearly made the films to be watched in a certain order: originals followed by prequels.  Granted, a few of his changes subvert this (like the end of ROTJ), but he's really serving two masters and doesn't really know what he's doing.

I'm showing my little sister the entire Star Wars Saga.  The order I'm showing her is the order I think is best: 4-6 (Unaltered), 1-3, 4-6 (Special Edition).  She's finished the unaltered trilogy, and is currently in the middle of Episode II.  We may not let her watch Episode III, though.