Pennsylvania Jones

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The Secret of NIMH or Mrs. Frisby and the Rats of NIMH?

Okay, fine then.  Here's the first part of my version:

One day, in the late summer of 1982 (or 1983), Justin comes to the Fitzgibbons' farm to search for the Brisbys.  Failing to find them in their block, he comes across Breta, who leads him to the Brisbys.

Meanwhile, in the city, we introduce Racso, possibly during a scene where he's stealing food or something.  Racso is established as a playboy.  He and his mother live in the city.

Racso was born by accident after a sex innuendo between Jenner and whoever Racso's mother is.  Jenner hated Racso and wanted to kill him ever since he was born, but the mother wouldn't allow it.  She and Racso left the rosebush shortly after that (This allows for Jenner's death AND the existence of Racso).  Racso eventually decides that he wants to see the Rats of NIMH again (Maybe because he hears they're opening a school, maybe because he wants to see his father), and he sneaks away.

Meanwhile, in their summer home inside a tree trunk, the Brisbys (Mrs. Brisby, Teresa, Martin, Timothy, and Cynthia) are having a typical morning, when Breta and Justin arrive.  Justin tells the Brisbys that the Rats of NIMH are building a village in Thorn Valley, as well as a school.  They want little Timothy to join.  The other children are invited as well, if they want to help out.

Justin confides privately with Mrs. Brisby that Thorn Valley and the surrounding area is in potential danger, and that the real reason he came was to warn her and ask for her help (since she's the only mouse they know and can trust; her small size could be used to an advantage).  Mrs. Brisby agrees to help the Rats of NIMH.

Jeremy is shown as the head of a family.  He's still with Miss Right (Who knows what we'll name her?), and they have a son.

Racso comes to the Fitzgibbons' farm, searching the rosebush the Rats used to live in for an opening.  (Unbeknownst to Racso, this is actually a different rosebush; the first one got bulldozed away)  Jeremy arrives, attempts to help Racso get in, and gets hurt in the process.  A yelp of pain from Jeremy wakes up Dragon the Cat, and Dragon attacks.  Jeremy saves Racso, and after a conversation, Racso finds out the Rats of NIMH are in Thorn Valley.  Racso offers a candy bar to Jeremy, but for some reason he only takes the foil wrapper.

Jeremy comes to the Brisbys and they're ready to leave.  They climb onto Jeremy like so:

During the flight to Thorn Valley, at the break of night, a hawk attacks.  Timothy is wounded and falls off.  After losing the hawk and failing to find Timothy in the darkness of night, the Brisbys continue to Thorn Valley.

Timothy comes back around, and finds he's being taken care of by Racso.

Jeremy and the Brisbys arrive at Thorn Valley (which, BTW, gets a big, dramatic reveal and will not be anywhere NEAR as sophisticated as in Timmy to the Rescue) and inform Justin that Timmy is gone.  Justin assembles two search parties (One for him and one for Mrs. Brisby) to search for him.  (Brutus doesn't talk and he still has no pupils)

Mrs. Brisby's team finds a bonfire in the middle of the forest (courtesy of Racso).  There's an action scene here to put it out.

Justin's team finds Racso and Timothy.  They bring them to Thorn Valley.

Timothy is taken to the infirmary, and the Brisbys are given housing.  Later, a village-wide meeting is held, where Justin explains the danger to Thorn Valley.  He subsequently introduces Racso and calls for Racso's father/someone to lodge him.  Nobody claims Racso/Nobody will lodge Racso, so Mrs. Brisby allows him to live with them.

Racso and Mrs. Brisby go the infirmary (meeting Isabella on the way), and see Timothy all healed up.  They take them to their Thorn Valley house, and the next day, they all do their part for Thorn Valley.

The next day, Timothy and Racso start school, Cynthia goes to a nursery, Teresa helps Isabella in the kitchen, and Martin is stuck working in the gardens, with a nasty rat named Bertha bossing him around.  ("She makes the Shrew look like an angel!" he would say about it)

That's all I'll share for now.  There's more, but I don't think it'll be any good.

Here's a thread that has been started on IndyLounge.  Here's how to play:

X said:

Coke or Root Beer?

Y said:

Root Beer

Star Wars or Star Trek?

X said:

Star Wars

Han Solo or Indiana Jones?

etc.

Let's begin where my example left off:

Han Solo or Indiana Jones?

Pennsylvania Jones said:

Bingowings said:

I didn't mean to call you a meatloaf Jack.

WRONG THREAD!!!

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doubleKO said:

Thanks, I did! My memory is sketchy but wasn't there a lot more in the book about the rats being at NIMH and getting smart and stuff? That was the most interesting part. I enjoyed the animation more than the movie itself, but I'll give it 6/10.

Watching it reminded me of another animated movie I saw at roughly the same age - Watership Down. That was one of the most intense animated stories I've seen (that is regarded as suitable for children), though that Bright Eyes song has always annoyed me.

They cut out everything after the escape from NIMH, too.  They also cut out the library scene where Isabella is introduced.  It'd be cool if a Secret of NIMH 3 introduced Isabella...

Well, now I'm going to have to watch Watership Down someday....

CP3S said:

Pennsylvania Jones said:

CP3S said:

Pennsylvania Jones said:

I'm not the biggest fan of the prince calling him an ass EVERY SINGLE TIME HE REFERS TO HIM!!!

I know! The Prince is such as jerk, how dare he call the animal what it is...

I have a funny feeling that if Puzzle was a duck, and the prince constantly referred to him as "duck" every single time, it wouldn't bother you in the slightest, would it?

Ass is considered a cuss word.  Duck isn't.  And neither is donkey.

This isn't going to turn into a fight, is it?  I'm not in the mood to start a forum war. >:(

C-3PS edited:

In other words, I assume your problem doesn't stem from the prince not taking the time to learn Puzzle's name, or his lack of creativity apparent by failing to call him a wider variety of names, but from the fact that in American English "ass" also happens to be a dirty word and you are uncomfortable with reading it in a children's book.

Yes, that is the problem.  And I don't want to get into a damn fight!

 

Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! I'm not picking any fights here! You can remove your hand from your sword hilt!

I think you need to know that:

Ass: A donkey

Arse: What you sit with

 

To the writer and his original audience, he was not using a cuss word or trying to be "cute" by using a word with a double meaning. I have heard far too many Americans complain about Lewis being a bit too vulgar at times, or roll their eyes at his sense of humor in disguising this dirty word to make it seem legit so he could have a good chuckle. You'll find the word "ass" in the KJV Bible too. What were the translators thinking!?!

They were thinking that an ass is an animal, and not only that, but the more commonly used name for that particular animal. Same thing Lewis was thinking when he wrote The Last Battle.

You can't blame either of them for the Americans trying to simplify things by decided that the two words (with two separate etymologies at that!) should be spelled exactly the same way, which, unsurprisingly caused people to eventually shy away from calling an ass an ass to avoid confusion with the mildly vulgar arse they turned into ass. So now it is called a donkey.

So, C. S. Lewis and other British children's author who have used that word in their books cannot be blamed for the crimes of the language butchers across the ocean.

 

I appreciate your intent, and I appreciate the explanation.  I will "Remove my hand from my sword hilt."

Enjoy it!

bkev said:

In French? Oh-la-la, classy guy over here.

Yes, I remember it vividly...

Mrs. Brisby said:

Merci-

*SLAM!!!*

Mrs. Brisby said:

Bocu.

I was obsessed with French at the time, because of two movies: Bon Voyage, Charlie Brown and Herbie goes to Monte Carlo.  I'll bet I have to start a Charlie Brown thread and a Herbie thread.

And I never plucked a rooster.

And I'm not too good at ping-pong.

And I've never thrown my mashed potatoes up against the wall.

And I've never kissed a chipmunk.

And I've never gotten head lice.

And I've never been to Boston in the Fall.

And I never hoist the mainstay.

And I never swabbed the poop deck.

And I never veer to starboard, 'cuz I never sail at all.

And I never walked the gangplank.

And I never owned a parrot.

And I never been to Boston in the Fall.

Bingowings said:

I didn't mean to call you a meatloaf Jack.

Wrong thread?

TV's Frink said:

Here it's all about context.

And the fact that it's almost never used to describe the animal...

THAT'S EXACTLY MY POINT!!!  THANK YOU!!!

TV's Frink said:

lol, I think you missed the fact that C3PX was telling you first.

Like I said, I'm an ass.

TV's Frink said:

Ass is not considered a cuss word when it is used to refer to a donkey.  Just like bitch is not a cuss word when used to refer to a female dog.

NOW he tells me.  Boy, am I an ass!

CP3S said:

Pennsylvania Jones said:

I'm not the biggest fan of the prince calling him an ass EVERY SINGLE TIME HE REFERS TO HIM!!!

I know! The Prince is such as jerk, how dare he call the animal what it is...

I have a funny feeling that if Puzzle was a duck, and the prince constantly referred to him as "duck" every single time, it wouldn't bother you in the slightest, would it?

Ass is considered a cuss word.  Duck isn't.  And neither is donkey.

This isn't going to turn into a fight, is it?  I'm not in the mood to start a forum war. >:(

C-3PS edited:

In other words, I assume your problem doesn't stem from the prince not taking the time to learn Puzzle's name, or his lack of creativity apparent by failing to call him a wider variety of names, but from the fact that in American English "ass" also happens to be a dirty word and you are uncomfortable with reading it in a children's book.

Yes, that is the problem.  And I don't want to get into a damn fight!

greenpenguino said:

Man, why can't Wars EU be like Trek EU, where the only things that are canon are the movies and tv shows. Yet ANOTHER reason why trek is better than wars...

So Droids and Ewoks, as well as Clone Wars would be canon as well?

greenpenguino said:

doubleofive said:

 

xhonzi said:

Pennsylvania Jones said:

Everybody's got a water buffalo.

Yours is fast, but mine is slow.

Where do we get them?  I don't know.

But everybody's got a water buffalo.

STOP STOP STOP!!!!  YOU CAN'T SAY THAT EVERYONE HAS A WATER BUFFALO WHEN IT'S CLEAR THAT NOT EVERYONE HAS A WATER BUFFALO!

This is true. He's going to have people calling saying "Where's my water buffalo? Why don't I have a water buffalo." I don't think he's prepared to deal with that and should stop being so silly.

 

Everybody's got a baby kangaroo,

yours is pink but mine is blue....

How nice of you to join! :D

Pizza Angel, please come to me.

Tomato Sauce and Cheese so gooey.

Pizza Angel, I'm on my knees.

You're my number one pie from Sicily!

CP3S said:

Pennsylvania Jones said:

I'm up to the part where the group frees Puzzle.  (Seriously, why can't the prince just say "Donkey" even once?)

I take it you aren't the biggest fan of Puzzle being referred to as an ass?

I'm not the biggest fan of the prince calling him an ass EVERY SINGLE TIME HE REFERS TO HIM!!!

Warbler said:

my real concern is what is this thing going to do to my beloved Jersey Shore? They are evacuating the shore area right now.   No one has said anything about evacuations around here.   Our house is good strong sturdy one, I think it will be able to stand it.  But we do have trees in the area, if one should fall in the right direction and hit our roof . . .  Not to mention the dangers of flying debris and whatnot.   Also our area has had a lot of rain, the combination of what we've had already + Hurricane Irene, could cause a lot of flooding.     

Then I'll pray for your shore, too. ;)

Well, I've never been to Greenland.

And I've never been to Denver.

And I've never buried treasure in St. Louis or St. Paul.

And I've never been to Moscow.

And I've never been to Tampa.

And I've never been to Boston in the Fall!

Warbler, you have my sentiments and my prayers.

We are the Pirates...  Who Don't Do Anything.

We just stay home, and lie around.

And if you ask us, to do anything.

We'll just tell you...

We don't do anything.

There's a thread in the General Chat section of IndyLounge called The OR Game.  I'd like to start one here.

EXAMPLE:

X said:

Star Wars:

Original Theatrical or Special Edition?

Y said:

Original Theatrical

Timmy to the Rescue or Return of the Jedi?

X said:

Return of the Jedi

Root Beer or Coke?

etc.

YOU ARE HIS CHEESEBURGER!

HIS PRECIOUS CHEESEBURGER!

HE'LL WAIT FOR YOU-OOH!

Oh, he will wait for you...

Great that you've seen The Secret of NIMH.  Here's the official thread for it, approved by TV's Frink:

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/The-Secret-of-NIMH-And-its-Wannabe-Sequel-Timmy-to-the-Rescue-And-apparently-the-Books-too/topic/13150/

I hope I can get someone good at writing to help me with this.  If necessary, I'll post my own idea for the movie.

TV's Frink said:

Pennsylvania Jones said:

Just an FYI, gifbin images don't usually work as hotlinks.  Clear your cache and see for yourself.

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