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#223942
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Episode I: PaulisDead2221's Edit (* unfinished project *)
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Phht, fine I don't even care!

Seriously though, I'm leaving for China for three weeks this coming wendsday, so I'll be out of commission again for awhile, but they have computers there so I'm pretty sure i'll be able to come back here every now and then, so keep posting.

Here's a sample of what my new opening looks like right now, I just wanted to show this before I start committing to any reconfabulating of the beginning. Just pretend like the title crawl before is perfect and explains everything.
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#223505
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Episode I: PaulisDead2221's Edit (* unfinished project *)
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I just got back and I'm going back to editing.

I fixed the podrace and now it's back to its theatrical version, without Jabba/Greg Proops/C3PO/couple of cheesy lines/"Oh Poodoo"

Okay the more I watched the celebration scene, the lamer it got. And since a lot of people seem to want it gone, I chopped it off.

Okay, the funeral scene, I'm still not sure about continuing the funeral music into the credits, that seems like a big mistake. But if I could make it work I'll consider it. Would I still use the optical wipe that all Star Wars films end with? Do I fade out and fade into the credits?

The other option (keeping the Star Wars fanfare) is to change the music to something kinda sad, but big and climactic, to mix right into the ending music. I brought out an old mp3 of Prokofiev's "Midnight" to try and it kinda works, but of course real Star Wars music would be much better. Suggestions?

The opening I haven't gotten around to working with yet. If I wanted to fix the Jar Jar thing someone brought up earlier, I could show the Jedi and Jar Jar walking across the overpass, preparing to descend upon the group, this would give Jar Jar some kinda opening that would be less silly than him hanging from the overpass as the Jedi fight, but in any way I edit it, Jar Jar is just gonna show up out of nowhere. Suggestions?

Thanks again guys.
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#223074
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Kubrick: Vinyl Trilogy (Released)
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Hey! People are still coming to the thread!

In response to Sarpeidon, I don't have a job, but I don't pay for gas or insurance for my car, so I have some money every now and then.

Are you talking about the "digitally restored and remastered" edition?

Well, the DVD I have is from the Kubrick Collection, which I'm pretty sure is the "restored and remastered edition." Is this not true? All I know is I can barely see any stars, the menu is static, the scenes in the space station are out of focus and...yellow colored, and toward the beginning of the stargate sequence, as the camera pans up from Jupiter's moons, the stars suddenly appear out of no where, like the DVD is adjusting its picture right in front of me, only to disappear as the stargate opens. Hey, if I simply don't have a good edition, let me know.

Update: Well I had all the resources for The Shining, but there simply isn't enough music for an "isolated" music score. I'm pretty sure this is true for A Clockwork Orange as well. What I think I might try is an "integrated" score with The Shining, where I fade out the audio for specific music cues when they conflict with already existing music cues. Would that work in the long run, you think?
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#222449
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Episode I: PaulisDead2221's Edit (* unfinished project *)
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Oh definitely not. It works the way I currently have it because there's a final low sting when the Neimodians get off the phone with Lord Sidious, and it blends nicely into the pilot saying "with all due respect...." without Liam Neeson saying anything. Getting rid of the pilots and the ship's destruction is too much.

Oh yeah, I didn't have time to address the Neimodian thing. I really don't have a problem with their voices too much. Maybe some of the more annoying lines like "ohhh rord Sidious, the ship...it is out of our wrange wrong time!" But I cut stuff like that. If anyone wants to go treasure hunting through KOTOR for some usable dialogue, and can get plenty of it, post some audio samples: different emotions, questions, etc.

Jar Jar is introduced when he and Padme meet while she's cleaning R2. I was lucky this scene was there, otherwise you have no idea who half the characters are. The Jedi I'll work a little more so I can introduce them in the crawl.

OR

I had an idea about my opening, it's only a tad shoddy and I think everyone can tell just by hearing about it. I could redo it and show the ambassadors coming, Sidious having them killed, cut to the invasion (a real great transition btw), plus shots of the capital being taken, and a line to the Viceroy about the Queen being captured, then show them being taken off to the camps after being asked to sign the treaty, then the Jedi jump out of no where and save everybody, their origin left to the Star Wars extended universe. And trim off any cheesiness along the way. Then we can set up the Jedi, set up the Queen, set up the pilots, get some interaction with the battle droids a little, etc.

Hey thanks for the feedback so far, I really want this edit to accomodate as many people as possible, otherwise I'd be ruining the point.
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#222421
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Episode I: PaulisDead2221's Edit (* unfinished project *)
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Allright, the ambassadors aren't "random" I guess. I hope to establish them in the new crawl.

STAR WARS
Episode I
THE TOTALLY LESS STUPID VERSION

Things are getting seriously lame
in the Galtic Senate. The taxation
of trade routes in outlying nonabolitionist
star systems is in dispute or something.

To protect their gay little Trade
Federation, the Neimodian droid
army has blockaded the small
planet of Naboo, in hopes to--like--
I dunno, threaten the Senate into
submission or something.

While the Senate (insert an adjective that means "douchebaggedley")
tries to help by sending two ambassadors
to force a settlement, the Queen's Jedi
advisors prepare her for an exciting escape
from the growing Neimodian threat...

Okay basically I want to establish that the droid army belongs to the Neimodians, explaining why a Trade Federation has an army, and bring about a problem that needs a "treaty" because they talk about a treaty in my edit, but it's not to make their invasion "legal." I still wanted the "problem" to be something a little more serious than taxes, intergalactic wars don't start with taxes.

But to actually respond about the ambassadors, basically the scenes go like this:
-Ambassador's ship flies by and heads toward the blockade
-cut to scene with Darth Sidious talking to the Neimodians
"This plan has failed, Lord Sidious! The blockade is finished!"
"Grr get this asshole out of here" or whatever "this turn of events is unfortunate, begin landing your troops."
"is that legal?" (i might cut this part out, since when is there a legal invasion?)
"I will make it legal"
"and the [ambassadors]? (great audio editing)
"the chancellor should not have brought them into this, kill them immediately"
"oh yes my lord"
-cut to inside the ship
"with all do respect the chancellor's ambassadors wish to board immediately"
"yes of course, we'd be happy to receive the ambassadors"
-ship flies into hanger bay
-cut to "sir a transmission from the planet"
blah blah blah
"grr I heard the ambassadors are with you now and blah blah blah"
"I know nothing of any ambassadors, blah blah blah"
-cut to, ship getting blown up
"oh no!!! Shields up--arrrrrghhh!"
-cut to invasion of Naboo.
-cut to Queen escaping I guess

Actually the way i have it now, there's no exchange between the Queen and Neimodians, which works to up the action, but I think i need to add it so we can establish the characters a little better. I dunno I'm still working with it.

I'm pretty sure I just forgot to note in the changelog about "weesa going home"

I'll think about this change in the ending, so far democratic process says I should really consider it. Whatever I do, the Star Wars ending theme stays. I think the best way to do that, if I were to, would be to cut out the dialogue for Quigon's scene, change the music like people said, and cut to the end. By cutting out the dialogue I could make the scene feel like a real "ending" and not end it so abruptly.

Whoah, gotta go rehearse again. I'll be back later if anyone has any further ideas about making anything shoddy I have listed "work" a little better.
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#221765
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Episode I: PaulisDead2221's Edit (* unfinished project *)
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It wouldn't be the first time someone's told me the new podrace is too long. I'll dig out my old VHS of Episode I and try to shorten it up a bit. Some extra bits and pieces will be included just to cover the tracks left by some of the Jabba/C3P0/Greg Proops/Stupid Reaction Shots cuts.

I'll take out "up" from the offending subtitle.

I left the Neimodians the same. Option one, reversing the spanish track, of course sounds just like...spanish reversed. Option 2: I did do some tests by rearranging the syllables to create an incoherent language based on spanish that sounded really good, but background soundfx got in the way too much to try anything throughout the whole film anyway. Also, the spanish actors do a much worse job than the english ones anyway--I mean they're spanish dubbing actors for christ's sake! . It is a sad loss, but I think their funny voices are less intrusive in this all-around less stupid edit.
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#221590
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Episode I: PaulisDead2221's Edit (* unfinished project *)
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<span class=“Bold”>Introduction:</span>
I know a lot of people love ADM and Magfan’s edits of the prequels, and I know we all are greatly looking forward to “Shroud of the Darkside” with cautious optimism. But I wanted to try a hand at this kinda thing. The Phantom Menace was my favorite of the whole PT trilogy, still felt the most like Star Wars for me. Anyway, I’m completely done with the actual editing process and the film comes in at about an hour and a half, all I need is to encode it, work on some special features, work on the DVD menus, get help with some “problems,” buy a dual layer DVD burner, etc. Mostly I wanted to use this release as a means of “trading” for other people’s DVDs that I can’t download onto my already cluttered hard drive.

The whole editing process from beginning to end took about 3 or 4 days. How cool am I?

<span class=“Bold”>Sources:</span>
-Retail DVD of The Phantom Menace
-Phantom Menace Soundtrack (not complete) so I could fill in some audio gaps that came from reordering certain scenes.

<span class=“Bold”>Here’s some general stuff:</span>
-Worked on cutting out cheesy stuff.
-Worked on trimming Jar Jar’s screentime, leaving some of it so his dumbassedness can be well-established for his “Adolf Binks” contribution to Episode II.
-Cut out C3P0, if I do the other two prequels I will cut him out of the PT alltogether.
-Burnt in subtitles directly onto the image to preserve a theatrical experience. Font was Franklin Gothic Medium Condensed.
-The opening is kinda complicated. I’ve pretty much done away with the first act before they get to Tatooine, while using what I could to tell a sort of new story with the footage. In the complete changelog I go more into it.

<span class=“Bold”>Here’s a complete change log:</span>
1-Changed beginning. Now starts with Queen trying to escape while two random ambassadors who aren’t Quigon Jin and Obiwan Kenobi (they are now “the Queen’s Jedi” or something) attempt to settle “the conflict” (more on the conflict later). I might rework it so she tells the viceroy “he’s gone to far” and that whole scene before she attempts to escape.
2-after the Queen escapes, the scene where Sidious says “I will make it legal” goes and instead of Nute Gunray saying “and the Jedi?” he says “and the ambassadors?” in a delicous feat of audio editing. Now Sidious is putting them in too deep by saying to kill the ambassadors. This scene follows with a cut to the inside of the ambassadors’ ship demanding to board.
3-Nute says "Yes of course, we’d be happy to receive the ambassadors (without the “our blockade is legal of course”) and the ambassadors enter the hanger, the gun turret reveals itself and blows them up.
4-This scene is followed by the invasion from the beginning, cutting out any reference to finding the Jedi, because they already escaped in this edition.
5-Okay, things kinda get normal in terms of the timeline now. R2D2s commendation scene is now a scene where the Queen wants to be updated on where they’re going with no fuel, starting with the line “Continue, Captain.” This cut helps because now the Queen’s decoy isn’t ordering her to clean up a dirty old droid. She basically does it by her own free will I guess, passing time while she’s undercover or something
6-Cut out Jar Jar stepping in crap of course.
7-I still have some reworking and reordering to do, but I think I’ve got the “Are you an angel” crap gone.
8-Changed the shopkeeper’s subtitle “that costs seven wupiupi” to “give that back you little thief!”
9-Changed the dialogue between Anakin and Sebulba in the subtitles.
“careful sebulba. He’s a big time outlander. I’d hate to see you buried alive up our at Boonta Eve”
“Next time we race, they’ll be burying YOU…(Sebulba flings the thing that fell in his soup at Anakin, which gives the “YOU” emphasis that line needs)…If you weren’t somebody’s slave, I’d save the trouble and do it now!”
—So the way the dialogue plays now, it’s much better, the rhetoric is much more connected and they actually “retort” with one another. All things must flow within one another.
10-Oh yeah, C3PO is GONE. It’s just plain wrong that he was “created” by Anakin. It didn’t happen, and the thing at the end of Episode III about his memory being erased? That’s just them catching their idiotic mistake. Did they erase Owen Lars memory too? “Hmmm what’s your name? you look familiar…Oh I have no need for a protocol droid!”
11-Reordered the dinner scene at the Skywalker residence. It’s a little complicated to explain, but it starts with “I can’t believe there’s still slaver in the galaxy” and plays out until Jar Jar sticks out his tongue for the fruit on the table. We then cut the footage so it looks like Quigon catches his tongue the first time instead of later. This then prompts Annie to ask “You’re a Jedi Knight, aren’t you?” Then we move on normally until Jar Jar says “and no nutten mulah to trade,” which prompts Anakin to ask if anyone has seen a podrace, then this introduces the element of podracing to the discussion. I can’t actually remember why I reordered it like this, but I’m sure there was something stupid I was cutting out. It’s much better now.
12-In this same scene, Anakin doesn’t give that little kid soapbox “Mom, you said the biggest problem in this universe is that there’s too many Gungans getting jobs just becuase of affirmative action” (or something like that, I can’t remember the line.)
13-“He can help you” is all Shmi says, instead of following it up with “He was meant to help you”
14-For no reason at all, Watto says “I hope you didn’t kill anyone I know for it.” It didn’t make sense, so I cut it.
15-Changed Watto’s subtitle from “Your friend is a foolish one, methinks” to “Your new friend has some misplaced faith in you, I think.” It’s much better because it alludes to Anakin’s eventual fall to the dark side, ostensibly making Quigon’s faith that he will bring balance to the force wrong. Also, Watto doesn’t say “methinks” he says “i think.” He never said “methinks” in english. I don’t know why nobody was watching for that consistency.
16-Cut out Shmi’s description of how Anakin’s birth was a virgin birth. All she says is “There was no father,” which means he can be simply interpreted as a bastard child. This can also hint SUBTLEY (something completely missing from the PT) at the Jesus connection.
17-Cut out the kids talking to Annie while he’s working. They suck at acting.
18-To quote ADM: “NO FRIGGIN’ MIDICHLORIANS”
19-Took a line from Sidious earlier in the film “I want that treaty signed!” and put it over the intercom on Maul’s ship as he lands on Tatooine.
20-When Quigon is talking to Watto about Sebulba and Sebulba’s getting all up about his man-crush on Sebulba, I cut out Jar Jar’s quick “OH NO!!!”
21-Basically reworked the race so there’s only one announcer, or one announcer voice anyway; sorry Greg Proops
22-Basically reworked the whole race to focus a little more on the race rather than have the silly reaction shots from Greg Proop’s alien and the others.
23-Cut out Jabba the Hutt. He sucked.
24-Cut out the exchange between Anakin and Sebulba before the race.
25-Cut out Sebulba’s last line “Poodoo!” (translated from Huttese: “Oh fodder!”). The way it is now, it kinda looks like Sebulba may have died, which is kinda cool
–basically the race is the same as per the DVD release, I didn’t try to recreate the theatrical edit or anything.
26-Cut out Obiwan’s line “Why do I sense we’ve picked up another pathetic lifeform,” because without the plot actually showing them pick Jar Jar up, the line doesn’t work as well as it should. Too bad.
27-Quigon tells Anakin he’s no longer a slave, the scene plays out normally until Shmi says “now you can make your dreams come true. You’re free” and the scene ends. I was trying to get rid of the “Yipee”
28-Left in Anakin’s “Hi” to Obiwan, but cut out the extra crap: “you’re a jedi too? pleased to meet you der dee der!”
29-Cut out that stuff about Naboo being a “democracy” between the Viceroy and what’s-his-face. I’m willing to believe Naboo is a constitutional monarchy, but with the absence of any scenes of a parliment, we’re left to believe the Queen makes all the decisions, making it a simple monarchy.
30-The way the scene from 29 plays out now, we simply wipe to the Naboo palace at night, and a droid informs the viceroy that they’re searching the swamps for “rumored underwater villages” and such. It works to give the Gungans some mystery before we find out they’re all a bunch of useless perpetuating Gungan stereotypes.
31-reworked the landing at Coruscant so as to leave out the line “the entire planet is one big city”
32-Cut out Jar Jar’s line “Pretty Hott!” from the extended air taxi sequence.
33-During the Senate scene, I cut out anything referring to Naboo as a democracy. In the single most greatest accomplishment in audio editing history, I reworked the Queen’s speech so she says “I will not defer. I’ve come to resolve this attack on our sovereignty(sp) now. [I will] not watch my people suffer and die while you…”
–The “I will” was lifted from a few seconds earlier. I’m not sure if any other fan edits have done this to rework the “Naboo democracy” issue, but I was real super proud of myself.
34-I cut out Mace’s line “the code forbids it.”
35-As per other fan edits, I cut out Boss Nass’ weird shaky thing he does, but I left in the clicky thing.
36-Cut out the “Roger, Roger” from the fight with the droids.
37-Cut out the “cease fire” line from the Gungan and Droid battle.
38-Cut out the “Ouch time” line and most of Jar Jar’s antics during the Gungan battle. First Jar Jar doesn’t cowardly hide under the “Big Boomahs” and instead just latches onto the back and sets them off, trying to look as intentional as possible. Then when some explosion propells him onto the tank barrell, he instead is propelled to the shot where he’s rolling on the ground much later as per the Phantom editor I think.
39-Cut out some of the “oops” and stuff from Anakin from this point and on in the film. The autopilot stuff is gone too. Plus his stupid “let’s try this trick” crap.
40-Also cut out the “take this” “and this” crap from Anakin when he gets his ship moving again.
41-Cut out the line “We didn’t hit it! der dee der!”
42-Cut out Anakin’s first “Whooooohooooo!” as he leaves the hanger.
43-Cut out the line “They all brokey”

<span class=“Bold”>Here’s how some of the subtitles look:</span>

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g40/DledRhapsody/youlittlethief.jpg

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g40/DledRhapsody/buriedalive.jpg

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g40/DledRhapsody/noyou.jpg

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g40/DledRhapsody/savetroubledoitnow.jpg

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g40/DledRhapsody/Changedsubtitlepost.jpg

<span class=“Bold”>Here’s things I’m still needing help with!:</span>
-Need new title.
-Opening title crawl: writing and rendering. I have a blank starfield after the logo disappears all set to go if someone wants to help.
-Opening few seconds: I need help because of the multiangle feature for the DVD switching from angle 1 to 2 to 3 and simply cutting out 2 and 3 doesn’t work because I suck. I need an avi of the Star Wars logo receding, and the ambassador’s ship heading toward the blockade if anyone can cut it better than I can.
-I need the music from the Queen’s escape from Naboo to fill in this little snag in the audio. It’s not on the soundtrack I have.
-I need help with the avisynth export plugin so I can encode with TMPGEnc instead of Mainconcept. I’ll put a thread up at Doom9.
-I’m thinking of doing an isolated score for the film, nobody ever does it for the PT, and if somebody had the two disc set of the complete Phantom Menace score then maybe I could put it together. Meh, I might not do it depending on the time.

Anyway I’m leaving for Seattle for a week or so, so I wanted to put this up before I left. That way, people could ask questions, make suggestions, critique, or whatever. There’s computers where I’m going so I can defend, refute, or generally just respond and make the final changes when I get back. Some time this summer I’ll be going to China for three weeks so I hope to get my ass back to work and finished before I leave.

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#221344
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Episode II: Shroud of the Dark Side (the TM edit) (Released)
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Originally posted by: Trooperman
All of that has been removed except for the death sticks scene. I got a kick out of it, and it establishes Obi-Wan's position at the bar, before Zam reveals herself. Except for the antennae on the guy, I don’t understand why people don’t like the scene.


Awww come on! I know it's your project, so go ahead and keep it in. At least do something about his name. I know it doesn't show up in the movie, but in the credits, could you just put a black block or something over that guy's name as it rolls up the screen?
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#219364
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ORIGINAL STAR WARS TRILOGY OUT 09/2006 BY LUCASFILM
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I need your opinion on the letter I'm sending:

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Dear Mr. Lucas,

My name is Billy and I am 8 years old and you made me cry by not releasing the unaltered original Star Wars trilogy in an anamorphic DVD format. My cat Snuckles is very sick and you made her cry too and she is 4 years old. Snuckles has a terminal illness and it would make her short life if you would release a hand-crafted digitally mastered version of the unaltered original Star Wars trilogy on Blu-ray format in time for both the premiere year for HD formats and the 30th anniversary of Star Wars. We are not sure, but she probably will not make it much past about the 15 of May next year.

My big brother is very mad at you and keeps using bad words when he’s talking about you, but I am not mad or use the bad words because you made Star Wars and I like Star Wars, but I am kinda mad because you changed Star Wars and even though you said it was better I still didn’t like it anymore. My big brother told me what garbage mattes were and I think just nobody likes them because they don’t have a very nice name. I think they should be called “force-lines” that way people would like them better because everybody likes the force.

Also, please release the original version of Star Wars in theaters and on IMAX.

Sincerelly,
BILLY(some backwards letters)
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Should I include this line?:
I also liked the old versions and even though you said you liked the old films to match up with the prequel Star Wars movies I still like the old versions because the prequels sucked and I didn’t like them as much.