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#659674
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The Audio Preservation Thread
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_,,,^..^,,,_ said:

Movie: The Thing

Format: Signature Collection Laserdisc 42654 

Input Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Surround 44.1 khz, 16-bit, Bit Perfect 

Output Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Surround 48 khz, 16-bit 

Synced To: UK HD-DVD (should be OK for US HD-DVD and BD too)

Ripped/Sync'd by: Jonno

Notes: Original remix, different from latest HD-DVD/BD

(available for download right now, PM me if interested)

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Movie: The Thing

Format: French PAL laserdisc PLFFB 33061

Input Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Surround 44.1 khz, 16-bit, non Bit Perfect 

Output Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Surround 48 khz, 16-bit 

Synced To: UK HD-DVD (should be OK for US HD-DVD and BD too)

Ripped by: ilovewaterslides / Sync'd by: _,,,^..^,,,_

Notes: French language

Added to the list, thanks,  _,,,^..^,,,_

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#659215
Topic
The Audio Preservation Thread
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FremenDar007 said:

It's The Hunt for Red October, not The Hunt For The Red October. The Living Daylights should be 007 15 then the title. For the rest of the original mixes for the James Bond movies, especially Sean Connerys, George Lazenby, Roger Moore, et. al

Did MAD MAX have an original track on Laserdisc in PCM? Glad it mentions which Blu-ray release to use, since I do have quite a lot. I'd rather use the original MGM release instead of the 2013 WB one.

Fixed and did you mean the original Australian or American soundtrack. I thought the Mad Max dvd was the first time the original Australian was available in the US. We just have the sequels preserved.

 

*edit Jonno beat me to it

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#659190
Topic
The Audio Preservation Thread
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So funny thing, I was working on North By Northwest last night and I found a section were the Blu-ray's 5.1 is missing some sound effects. When Cary Grant is escaping from the hospital outside on the balcony the 5.1 is missing some sounds of his feet and struggling moving balcony to balcony. It occurs around 1 hour 54 minutes

Nbnw

But it is present on both the Criterion and MGM laserdiscs. Nothing exciting and it is only a few seconds but interesting nonetheless. 

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#659163
Topic
The Audio Preservation Thread
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_,,,^..^,,,_ said:

I like this thread, and think it should deserve its own database. Here you are my last capture - it will be released soon:

Movie: Alien

Format: Laserdisc 876085

Input Soundtrack: Dolby Digital AC3 5.1 48KHz 16bit, bit perfect

Output Soundtrack: untouched - BD/DVD/AVCHD compliant

Synced To: 2010 Blu-ray Release Region A Theatrical Edition

Ripped/Synced by: _,,,^..^,,,_

Notes: Sound remastered from the 6-track magnetic masters of an early 70mm mix and contain alternative lines of dialog.

Thanks _,,,^..^,,,_, I added it to the list. Glad to have the 5.1 from that disc. I'd love to get a copy when you are finished. Are you doing a color re-do of Alien? I saw the pics in your color change thread. If you are going forward, I have this laserdisc:

http://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/10590/1090-80/Alien-(1979)

which is the oldest disc of Alien that I can find with digital PCM and Dolby Surround, and hopefully truest you can get to the original theatrical Dolby Stereo. 

 

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#659077
Topic
The Audio Preservation Thread
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CatBus said:

timdiggerm said:

Can I get an explanation of the advantages of using these soundtracks over whatever's on their blurays?

I can't vouch for all of them, but I'd say the goal is to get something that more closely resembles the theatrical audio.  The problem is, in many of the above cases, the soundtracks are a relatively small problem on the Blu-ray compared to the video (Back to the Future, Alien/s).  But, lacking a correction for the video problems, they're the best we can do.

That's right, the hope is that many of these soundtracks are closer to the original movie's soundtracks with less remixing and changes made. For example, what I'm working on right now, North By Northwest was released in mono durning its original theatrical run which is preserved on the old laserdisc. The DVD and Blu-ray are only a 5.1 remix. So this is a chance to watch the movie with something that is hopefully closer to what they heard in 1959. Same with more modern films, Star Trek II was in Dolby Stereo in the theaters and on laserdisc but on dvd and blu-ray, 5.1. By syncing it you hopefully get the theatrical sound.

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#659052
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The Audio Preservation Thread
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zeropc said:

to clarify

the evil dead

ripped by see no evil
synced by jj666

evil dead 2

ripped by zeropc
synced by jj666
input: dual mono
output: dual mono

the terminator

ripped by zeropc
synced by jj666
input: dual mono
output: single mono
synced to 2012 uk blu-ray - synced audio needs additional delay adjustment of -8500ms to sync to the 2013 u.s. bd

Thanks zeropc, I updated the list

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#659023
Topic
The Audio Preservation Thread
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So over the last weeks I completed the syncing of the Temple Of Doom widescreen laserdisc to the TOD blu-ray and Hunt For the Red October's widescreen laserdisc to the HFTRO blu-ray. PM me if you want a copy.

Right now, I am working on North By Northwest. I am syncing the Criterion Mono and the MGM Stereo/Mono laserdisc to the Warner Bros Blu-ray. I should be done at the end of this week. After that it will be The Good, The Bad and The Ugly's Mono laserdisc synced to the Italian blu-ray.

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#659021
Topic
The Audio Preservation Thread
Time

Looking For:

Apocalypse Now Laserdisc: PCM/AC3 (Any and all Soundtracks from the myriad LD editions of AN)

Big Trouble In Little China Laserdisc: Original Dolby Stereo PCM (For syncing to the US Blu-Ray)

Creepshow 2 Laserdisc: For Doombot

Die Hard 2 Laserdisc: Original Dolby Stereo PCM (For syncing to the US Blu-ray)

Dirty Harry: For Original Mono Soundtracks, Most likely the older P&S LDs. For Stamper

Enter The Dragon Laserdisc: PCM Mono (For syncing to the US Blu-Ray)

French Connection: For zeropc

French Connection 2: For zeropc

Forbidden Planet Laserdisc: PCM Mono from The Criterion LD (For syncing to the US Blu-Ray)

High Plains Drifter Laserdisc: PCM Mono (For syncing to the US Blu-Ray)

Jaws 2: For Zeropc

Outlaw Josey Wales Laserdisc: PCM Mono (For syncing to the US Blu-Ray)

Poltergeist Laserdisc: AC3 (70mm?) (Any and all Soundtracks from the myriad LD editions of Poltergeist)

Red Dawn Laserdisc: Original Dolby Stereo PCM (For syncing to the US Blu-Ray) Wolverines!

Rocky Series Laserdisc: For Tservo2049

Seven: For zeropc

Spartacus Laserdisc: Dolby Stereo PCM mixdown of original 70mm tracks (For syncing to the US Blu-Ray)

Tron Laserdisc: Original Dolby Stereo PCM (For syncing to the US Blu-Ray)

Who Framed Roger Rabbit Laserdisc: Original Dolby Stereo PCM (For syncing to the US Blu-Ray)

Wild Bunch Laserdisc: Original Mono PCM (For syncing to the US Blu-Ray)

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#659020
Topic
The Audio Preservation Thread
Time

Hey Everyone, 

        I noticed that a few people around here are are trying to preserve old soundtracks from laserdiscs and then sync them to the latest Blu-rays. I thought it might be nice to have a sort of master list of what has been preserved/synced and what is being worked on. The goal of this thread is to be the answer to the Re-mixed audio tracks on video releases thread. We are looking at Mono soundtracks, Stereo soundtracks, Dolby Stereo, 70mm mixes, soundtracks that contained dialog panning, mono surrounds, original far-field cinema mixes, DTS cinema disc mixes, etc. This would not only cover laserdiscs but any sources (DVDs, VHS, DTS discs). So without further ado here is the list of what has already been completed, please let me know if you have anything to add or any corrections.

Movie: Alien

Format: Laserdisc 876085

Input Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 44.1 kHz, 16-bit, not bit perfect

Output Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 48 kHz, 16-bit 

Synced To: 2010 Blu-ray Release Region A Theatrical Edition

Ripped/Synced by: Jonno

Notes: Sound remastered from the 6-track magnetic masters of an early 70mm mix and contain alternative lines of dialog.

Movie: Alien

Format: Laserdisc 876085

Input Soundtrack: Dolby Digital AC3 5.1 48 kHz 16-bit, bit perfect

Output Soundtrack: Dolby Digital AC3 5.1 48 kHz 16-bit

Synced To: 2010 Blu-ray Release Region A Theatrical Edition

Ripped/Synced by: _,,,^..^,,,_

Notes: Sound remastered from the 6-track magnetic masters of an early 70mm mix and contain alternative lines of dialog.

Movie: Aliens

Format: Laserdisc 8761-85 

Input Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 44.1 khz, 16-bit, bit perfect 

Output Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 48 khz, 16-bit 

Synced To: 2010 Blu-ray Release Region A Theatrical Edition

Ripped/Synced by: Jonno

Notes: None

Movie: Back to the Future

Format: Laserdisc 41056

Input Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 44.1 khz, 16-bit,  bit perfect

Output Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 48 khz, 16-bit

Synced To: DCP (Digital Cinema Package) downconverted to 1080p

Ripped/Synced by: PDB/deho

Notes: Contains the original Dolby Stereo soundtrack.

Movie: Back to the Future

Format: Laserdisc 41056

Input Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 44.1 khz, 16-bit, not bit perfect

Output Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 48 khz, 16-bit

Synced To: 2011 Blu-ray Release Region A

Ripped/Synced by: Jonno

Notes: Contains the original Dolby Stereo soundtrack.

Movie: Back to the Future

Format: Laserdisc 41056

Input Soundtrack: Analog 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround

Output Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 48 khz, 16-bit

Synced To: HDTV 1080p Canal+ version

Ripped/Synced by: Ilovewaterslides

Notes: Contains the original Dolby Stereo soundtrack.

Movie: Back to the Future Part II

Format: Laserdisc 40965

Input Soundtrack: Analog 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround

Output Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 48 khz, 16-bit

Synced To: DXVA HDTV 1080p HDnet version

Ripped/Synced by: Ilovewaterslides

Notes: Contains the original Dolby Stereo soundtrack.

Movie: Back to the Future Part III

Format: Laserdisc 40980

Input Soundtrack: Analog 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround

Output Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 48 khz, 16-bit

Synced To: DXVA HDTV 1080p HDnet version

Ripped/Synced by: Ilovewaterslides

Notes: Contains the original Dolby Stereo soundtrack.

Movie: Batman

Format: Laserdisc 12000 A/B

Input Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 44.1 khz, 16-bit, bit perfect 

Output Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 48 khz, 16-bit

Synced To: 2010 Blu-ray Release Region A 

Ripped/Synced by: PDB 

Notes: Contains the original Dolby Stereo soundtrack.

Movie: Blue Thunder

Format: Laserdisc 79336

Input Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 44.1 khz, 16-bit, bit perfect 

Output Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 48 khz, 16-bit

Synced To: 2009 Blu-ray Release Region A

Ripped/Synced by:  Dark Jedi/Doombot

Notes: Contains the original Dolby Stereo soundtrack.

Movie: Blade Runner - International Theatrical / Criterion Cut

Format: Laserdisc NJL-20008 (same master as Criterion LD)

Input Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 44.1 khz, 16-bit, bit perfect 

Output Soundtrack: FLAC 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 44.1 khz, 16-bit

Synced To:  2007 Blu-Ray - International theatrical version

Ripped/Synced by: Buster D/NeonBible 

Notes: Contains the original Dolby Stereo soundtrack. 

Movie: Blade Runner - Original Director's Cut

Format: Laserdisc NJL-12682

Input Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 44.1 khz, 16-bit, bit perfect 

Output Soundtrack 1: PCM 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 44.1 khz, 16-bit

Output Soundtrack 2: PCM 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 48 khz, 16-bit

Synced To:  2007 Blu-Ray - Original Director's Cut

Ripped/Synced by: Buster D

Notes: Contains the original Dolby Stereo soundtrack. 

Movie: Crocodile Dundee

Format: Laserdisc LV 32029-WS

Input Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 44.1 khz, 16-bit

Output Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 48 khz, 16-bit

Synced To: 2014 Blu-ray

Ripped/Synced by: Matt_Stevens

Notes: Contains the original Dolby Stereo soundtrack. http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Crocodile-Dundee-LPCM-audio-synced-to-Blu-Ray-FINAL/topic/17015/

Movie: Duck You Sucker (AKA Fistful of Dynamite)

Format: Italian BD DTS-HD MA 2.0, Laserdisc ML100872

Input Soundtracks: Italian BD DTS-HD MA 2.0 BD 48 khz, PCM 1.0 Mono 44.1 khz, 16-bit, bit perfect 

Output Soundtrack: PCM 1.0 Mono Surround 48 khz, 16-bit 

Synced To: 2013 Italian Blu-ray Release Region B

Ripped/Synced by: nirbateman

Notes: http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Duck-You-Sucker-1971-Fixing-the-mono-mix-V15-Finished/topic/16905

Movie: Escape From New York (German Soundtrack)

Format: Laserdisc L1269

Input Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 44.1 khz, 16-bit, bit perfect

Output Soundtrack: FLAC 2.0 48 khz, 16-bit

Synced To: 2010 Blu-ray Release Region A

Ripped/Synced by: anonymous

Notes: FLAC compressed

Movie: Evil Dead

Format: Laserdisc SF078-5044 

Input Soundtrack: Analog Capture Mono 1.0

Output Soundtrack: PCM 1.0 Mono 48 khz, 16-bit

Synced To: 2010 Blu-ray Release Region A (1.33 Version)

Ripped/Synced by: Moth3r/jj666

Notes: Contains the original unaltered theatrical mono.

Movie: Evil Dead 2

Format: Laserdisc EE3845

Input Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Mono 44.1 khz, 16-bit 

Output Soundtrack: FLAC 2.0 Mono 44.1 khz, 16-bit

Synced To: 2011 Blu-ray Release Region A (25th Anniversary)

Ripped/Synced by: zeropc/jj666

Notes: Contains the original mono that is not available on the Blu-ray(s)

Movie: The Fly

Format: Laserdisc SF078-1395

Input Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 44.1 kHz, 16-bit, bit perfect

Output Soundtrack 1: PCM 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 44.1 kHz, 16-bit 

Output Soundtrack 2: PCM 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 48 kHz, 16-bit

Synced To: 2007 Blu-ray Release Region A

Ripped/Synced by: Jonno/Buster D

Notes: Contains the original Dolby Stereo soundtrack. 

Movie: Good, The Bad And The Ugly, The

Format: Laserdisc ML 101739/1998 Theatrical US Region 1 DVD/2014 UK BD (4K Remaster)/Mondo Italian BD

Input Soundtrack: PCM 1.0  Mono 44.1 khz, 16-bit, bit perfect/Dolby Digital 2.0 Mono 48 kHz, 16-bit/Dolby Digital 2.0 Mono (5.1 Downmix) 48 kHz, 16-bit/German DTS-HD MA 2.0 Mono 48 khz, 16-bit

Output Soundtrack 1: DTS-HD MA 1.0 Mono 48 khz, 24-bit

Output Soundtrack 2: FLAC MA 1.0 Mono 48 khz, 24-bit

Synced To: 2014 UK 4K Remaster Blu-ray Release Region B (Will work on the Region A also)

Ripped/Synced by: TheHutt

Notes:  http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/The-Good-The-Bad-And-The-Ugly-1966-remastered-mono-track-for-4K-restoration/topic/16791/

Movie: Good, The Bad And The Ugly, The

Format: French Extended Version Blu-ray

Input Soundtrack: DTS 5.1 48 kHz 24-bit 755kbps

Output Soundtrack: DTS 5.1 48 kHz 24-bit 755kbps

Synced To: Italian Mondo 2K Bl-ray Release Region Free (2014 Version is Region B)

Ripped/Synced by: _,,,^..^,,,_

Notes: Warning: I used the Rigby script to put it in sync, but I still need confirmation of its perfect sync.

Movie: Ghostbusters

Format: Laserdisc CC1182L

Input Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 44.1 khz, 16-bit, not bit perfect

Output Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 48 khz, 16-bit

Synced To: 2009 Blu-ray Release Region A (Non 4K Remaster)

Ripped/Synced by: Jonno

Notes: From the Criterion laserdisc. Contains the original Dolby Stereo soundtrack.

Movie: Ghostbusters

Format: Laserdisc CC1182L

Input Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 44.1 khz, 16-bit, Bit Perfect

Output Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 48 khz, 16-bit

Synced To: 2013 Blu-ray Release Region A (4K Remaster)

Ripped/Synced by: Jonno

Notes: From the Criterion laserdisc. Contains the original Dolby Stereo soundtrack.

Movie: The Goonies

Format: Laserdisc 12304

Input Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 44.1 khz, 16-bit, bit perfect

Output Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 48 khz, 16-bit

Synced To: 2010/11 Blu-ray Release Region A

Ripped/Synced by: Buster D

Notes: Contains the original Dolby Stereo soundtrack.

Movie: Halloween

Format: Laserdisc CC1462L

Input Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Mono 44.1 khz, 16-bit, bit perfect 

Output Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Mono 48 khz, 16-bit

Synced To: 2013 Blu-ray Release Region A

Ripped/Synced by: Dark Jedi/Doombot

Notes: From the Criterion laserdisc. Contains the original theatrical mono.

Movie: Halloween

Format: Laserdisc CC1399L (Criterion CAV)

Input Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Mono 44.1 khz, 16-bit, bit perfect 

Output Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Mono 44.1 khz, 16-bit 

Synced To: 2013 Blu-ray Release Region A (35th Anniversary Blu-ray)

Ripped/Synced by: _,,,^..^,,,_

Notes: From the Criterion laserdisc. Contains the original theatrical mono. Syncronized using only AviSynth; discrepancies should be less than +/- 8.5ms (half NTSC field); left intact as anyone could resample it using his own preferred method; a 48khz version will be provided if requested.

Movie: Halloween (isolated score & effects track)

Format:  Laserdisc CC1399L (Criterion CAV)

Input Soundtrack: Analog Capture Mono 1.0

Output Soundtrack: PCM 1.0 Mono 48 kHz, 16-bit

Synced To: 35th Anniversary Blu-ray

Ripped/Synced by: _,,,^..^,,,_

Notes: Syncronized using only AviSynth; discrepancies should be less than +/- 8.5ms (half NTSC field)

Movie: The Hunt For Red October

Format: Laserdisc LV32020-2L

Input Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 44.1 khz, 16-bit, bit perfect 

Output Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 48 khz, 16-bit

Synced To: 2008 Blu-ray Release Region A

Ripped/Synced by: PDB

Notes: Contains the original Dolby Stereo soundtrack.

Movie: (Indiana Jones And The) Raiders Of The Lost Ark

Format: Laserdisc LV 1376-WS

Input Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 44.1 khz, 16-bit, bit perfect 

Output Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 48 khz, 16-bit

Synced To: 2012 Blu-ray Release Region A 

Ripped/Synced by: PDB 

Notes: Contains the original Dolby Stereo soundtrack.

Movie: Indiana Jones And The Temple Of Doom

Format: Laserdisc LV 1643-2WS

Input Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 44.1 khz, 16-bit, bit perfect

Output Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 48 khz, 16-bit

Synced To: 2012 Blu-ray Release Region A 

Ripped/Synced by: PDB

Notes: Contains the original Dolby Stereo soundtrack. One of the best Dolby Stereo soundtracks, IMHO. 

Movie: James Bond 01 Dr No

Format: Criterion Laserdisc CC1234L

Input Soundtrack: AC3 Mono 192 KBPS 48 kHz, 16-bit, not bit perfect

Output Soundtrack: AC3 Mono 192 KBPS 48 kHz, 16-bit, not bit perfect

Synced To: Official Blu ray release

Ripped/Synced by: Nirbateman

Notes:  Banned commentary. Not perfectly synced because I didn't wish to edit and re-convert a very lossy AC3. first 10 seconds slightly sped up and cut to accommodate the new logos.

Movie: James Bond 01 Dr No

Format: Criterion Laserdisc CC1234L

Input Soundtrack: AC3 Mono 192 KBPS 48 kHz, 16-bit, not bit perfect

Output Soundtrack: AC3 Mono 192 KBPS 48 kHz, 16-bit, not bit perfect

Synced To: Official Blu ray release

Ripped/Synced by: Nirbateman

Notes: Music/Effects only track. Not perfectly synced because I didn't wish to edit and re-convert a very lossy AC3

Movie: James Bond 02 From Russia With Love

Format: Criterion Laserdisc CC1266L

Input Soundtrack: AC3 Mono 192 KBPS 48 kHz, 16-bit, not bit perfect

Output Soundtrack: AC3 Mono 192 KBPS 48 kHz, 16-bit, not bit perfect

Synced To: Official Blu ray release

Ripped/Synced by: Nirbateman

Notes: Banned commentary. Not perfectly synced because I didn't wish to edit and re-convert a very lossy AC3

Movie: James Bond 03 Goldfinger

Format: Criterion Laserdisc CC1267L

Input Soundtrack: AC3 Mono 192 KBPS 48 kHz, 16-bit, not bit perfect

Output Soundtrack: AC3 Mono 192 KBPS 48 kHz, 16-bit, not bit perfect

Synced To: Official Blu ray release

Ripped/Synced by: Nirbateman

Notes: Banned commentary. Not perfectly synched because I didn't wish to edit and re-convert a very lossy AC3. first 10 seconds slightly sped up and cut to accommodate the new logos.

Movie: James Bond 03 Goldfinger

Format: Criterion Laserdisc CC1267L

Input Soundtrack: AC3 Mono 192 KBPS 48 kHz, 16-bit, not bit perfect

Output Soundtrack: AC3 Mono 192 KBPS 48 kHz, 16-bit, not bit perfect

Synced To: Official Blu ray release

Ripped/Synced by: Nirbateman

Notes: Music/Effects only track. Not perfectly synched because I didn't wish to edit and re-convert a very lossy AC3

Movie: James Bond 11 Moonraker

Format: Laserdisc ML101710

Input Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 44.1 khz, 16-bit, bit perfect

Output Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 48 khz, 16-bit

Synced To: 2009 Blu-ray Release Region A 

Ripped/Synced by: Jonno

Notes: Contains the original Dolby Stereo soundtrack.

Movie: James Bond 15 The Living Daylights

Format: Laserdisc  ML12530

Input Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 44.1 khz, 16-bit, bit perfect

Output Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 48 khz, 16-bit

Synced To: 2008 Blu-ray Release Region A 

Ripped/Synced by: singhcr/Jonno

Notes: Contains the original Dolby Stereo soundtrack.

Movie: Jurassic Park

Format: DTS Cinema Disc

Input Soundtrack: Cinema DTS 5.1 (5.0 with the LFE extracted from the rears using an 80Hz crossover) 44.1 kHz, 16-but (24 fps)

Output Soundtrack: DTS-HD MA 5.1 48 khz, 16-bit (23.976 fps)

Synced To: 2011 Blu-ray Release Region A

Ripped/Synced by: borisanddoris and ElDonate

Notes: Contains the original far field soundtrack in the DTS cinema format; exactly what you would hear in the theater.

Movie: Jurassic Park

Format: Laserdisc 41829

Input Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 44.1 khz, 16-bit, bit perfect

Output Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 48 khz, 16-bit

Synced To: 2011 (2D) Blu-ray Release Region A

Ripped/Synced by: PDB

Notes: Contains the original Dolby Stereo soundtrack.

Movie: Mad Max 2/Road Warrior

Format: Laserdisc 11181

Input Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 44.1 khz, 16-bit, not bit perfect

Output Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 48 khz, 16-bit

Synced To: 2013 Blu-ray Release Region A

Ripped/Synced by: Jonno

Notes: Contains the original Dolby Stereo soundtrack for the US cut of The Road Warrior, which was synced to the longer Mad Max 2 blu-ray.

Movie: Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome

Format: Laserdisc 13345

Input Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 44.1 khz, 16-bit, bit perfect

Output Soundtrack: FLAC 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 44.1 khz, 16-bit

Synced To: 2013 Blu-ray Release Region A

Ripped/Synced by: PDB/zeropc

Notes: Contains the original Dolby Stereo soundtrack.

Movie: Matrix, The 

Format: DTS Cinema Disc

Input Soundtrack: Cinema DTS 5.1 (5.0 with the LFE extracted from the rears using an 80Hz crossover) 44.1 kHz, 16-bit (24 fps)

Output Soundtrack: DTS-HD MA 5.1 48 khz, 16-bit (23.976 fps)

Synced To: 2008 Blu-ray Release Region A

Ripped/Synced by: Jetrell Fo and Doombot

Notes: Contains the original far field soundtrack in the DTS cinema format; exactly what you would hear in the theater.

Movie: Once Upon a Time in the West (1968) - Theatrical Cut (165mins)

Format: Laserdisc LV6830-2WS

Input Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dual Mono 44.1 khz, 16-bit, bit perfect

Output Soundtrack: PCM 1.0 Mono 44.1 khz, 16-bit

Synced To: 2011 Blu-ray Release Region A

Ripped/Synced By: Lil Brutto / NeonBible

Notes: N/A

Movie: Outland

Format: Laserdisc 12224

Input Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 44.1 khz, 16-bit

Output Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 48 khz, 16-bit

Synced To: 2013 Blu-ray Release Region A

Ripped/Synced by: Buster D

Notes: Contains the original Dolby Stereo soundtrack.

Movie: North By Northwest

Format: Laserdisc CC1226L

Input Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Mono 44.1 khz, 16-bit, bit perfect 

Output Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Mono 48 khz, 16-bit

Synced To: 2009 Blu-ray Release Region A

Ripped/Synced by: PDB

Notes: From the Criterion laserdisc. Contains the original mono that is not available on the Blu-ray.

Movie: North By Northwest

Format: Laserdisc ML102228

Input Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Mono/Stereo 44.1 khz, 16-bit, bit perfect 

Output Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Mono/Stereo 48 khz, 16-bit

Synced To: 2009 Blu-ray Release Region A

Ripped/Synced by: PDB

Notes: The opening music is in stereo but the rest of the movie is in mono. From the disc jacket: Although the film was not released in stereo, the Bernard Herrmann score was recorded in stereo. We have inserted the film's title theme into the master in true sterephonic sound, and on your digital tracks the film becomes mono for the balance of the feature.

Movie: Robocop

Format: Laserdisc CC1463L

Input Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 44.1 khz, 16-bit,  bit perfect

Output Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 48 khz, 16-bit

Synced To: 2014 Blu-ray Release (4K Remaster) Region A

Ripped/Synced by: zeropc/NeonBible

Notes: Contains the original Dolby Stereo soundtrack.

Movie: The Rocketeer

Format: Pioneer (Japan) Laserdisc PILF-1466

Input Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 44.1 kHz, 16-bit, bit perfect

Output Soundtrack 1: PCM 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 44.1 kHz, 16-bit 

Output Soundtrack 2: PCM 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 48 kHz, 16-bit

Synced To: 2011 Blu-ray Release Region A

Ripped/Synced by: Buster D

Notes: Contains the original Dolby Stereo soundtrack. 

Movie: Star Trek The Motion Picture 

Format: Laserdisc LV8858-2WS

Input Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 44.1 khz, 16-bit, not bit perfect

Output Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 48 khz, 16-bit

Synced To: 2009 Blu-ray Release Region A/2013 Individual Release

Ripped/Synced by: Jonno

Notes: Contains the original Dolby Stereo soundtrack.

Movie: Star Trek II The Wrath Of Khan

Format: Laserdisc LV1180-2WS

Input Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 44.1 khz, 16-bit, not bit perfect

Output Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 48 khz, 16-bit

Synced To: 2009 Blu-ray Release Region A/2013 Individual Release

Ripped/Synced by: Jonno

Notes: Contains the original Dolby Stereo soundtrack. Jonno's favorite soundtrack

Movie: Star Trek III

Format: Laserdisc LV1621-WS

Input Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 44.1 khz, 16-bit, bit perfect

Output Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 48 khz, 16-bit

Synced To: 2009 Blu-ray Release Region A/2013 Individual Release

Ripped/Synced by: Buster D

Notes: Contains the original Dolby Stereo soundtrack.

Movie: Star Trek IV

Format: Laserdisc PILF-1204

Input Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 44.1 khz, 16-bit, bit perfect 

Output Soundtrack 1: PCM 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 44.1 khz, 16-bit

Output Soundtrack 2: PCM 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 48 khz, 16-bit

Synced To:  2009 Blu-ray Release Region A/2013 Individual Release

Ripped/Synced by: Buster D

Notes: Contains the original Dolby Stereo soundtrack. 

Movie: Star Trek VI

Format: Laserdisc PILF-1771 (Japan)

Input Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 44.1 khz, 16-bit, bit perfect 

Output Soundtrack 1: PCM 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 44.1 khz, 16-bit

Output Soundtrack 2: PCM 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 48 khz, 16-bit

Synced To: 2009 Blu-ray Release Region A/2013 Individual Release

Ripped/Synced by: Buster D

Notes: Contains the original Dolby Stereo soundtrack edit ed down from the Extended Cut to match the Theatrical Cut on Blu-ray

Movie: Terminator

Format: Laserdisc ID2940NSB

Input Soundtrack: PCM 1.0 Mono 44.1 khz, 16-bit  

Output Soundtrack: FLAC 2.0 Mono 44.1 khz, 16-bit

Synced To: 2012 UK Blu-ray Release Region B (remastered version)

Ripped/Synced by: zeropc/jj666

Notes: Contains all the theatrical mono and has the original sound effects that were removed in the terrible 5.1 remix.. Audio needs additional delay adjustment of -8500ms to sync to the 2013 US remastered blu-ray.

Movie: The Thing

Format:  Laserdisc 42654 

Input Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Surround 44.1 khz, 16-bit, bit perfect 

Output Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Surround 48 khz, 16-bit 

Synced To: UK HD-DVD (should be OK for US HD-DVD and BD too)

Ripped/Synced by: Jonno

Notes: From the Signature Collection, different form the HD DVD/BD.

Movie: The Thing

Format: French PAL Laserdisc PLFFB 33061

Input Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Surround 44.1 khz, 16-bit, not bit perfect 

Output Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Surround 48 khz, 16-bit 

Synced To: UK HD-DVD (should be OK for US HD-DVD and BD too)

Ripped/Synced by: ilovewaterslides / _,,,^..^,,,_

Notes: French language Dolby Stereo soundtrack.

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#657844
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Info: Re-mixed audio tracks on video releases
Time

Speaking of ET, I've been meaning to revisit Close Encounters for a long time. If I got the 30th Anniv. BD would the mix there be anything like the theatrical? I know the original 70mm LFE was sourced for the Collector's Edition LD (via lddb forums)

AF, GBU could be saved by adding the LD PCM to the Mondo transfer and then replacing the edits in the torture scene and the few other tiny bits to conform to the 161 minute US/International cut. The Italian exclusive scenes would remain Italian mono for the longer cut, with the MGM SE exclusive scene being the grotto which was never shown outside the premiere.

From everything I've heard the blu-ray is the same as the laserdisc except the stereo surrounds. I have the laserdisc and it is on my list to copy and sync so we can compare. Same with GBU (my favorite film). I have the laserdisc and the Mondo but getting in sync will be a task. I want to get a little more experience syncing up soundtracks up before I tackle GBU. I just finished my first. I synced up Temple Of Doom's widescreen soundtrack to the blu-ray and so far it sound pretty good (big thanks to Jonno for helping test the finished track)

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#657054
Topic
Star Trek Into Darkness Bonus disc (Released)
Time

bigrob said:

well it turns out the Bestbuy exclusive content is only avalible online only via redemption code looking at the promo

 

the German BD though is stating taht it will have the shifting apsect ratio for the 3D version and some additional features

updates as i get them

Jeez what a mess. Please let us know when you find out about the German BR. The fact that the itunes changes aspect ratio is bizarre.

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#657053
Topic
The Thing (1982) [spoRv] *BD-25 RELEASED*
Time

 

Anr MM2 is another example: who can be sure that the BD has not the right colors that the director has always intended? To me, clearly the BD has wong colors (as "The Thing", "The Matrix" and many others) - this is SO obvious... even with no official reference, or, at the contrary, the studios and/or directors keep telling us that these BD has "the right color grading that the movie should have in the theaters but never had on video because old technology didn't allow that before" (Lucas docet) - when we (educated videophiles) all know that is a big fat lie... OK, I should start a separate thread for this, don't you think?

Well, baci to MM2: I have the LD but not the BD; if someone would kindly agree to send me the 1:1 rip, I'll be more than happy to spoRvify it! But take into account I'm involved in many projects right now, and don't know when I'll start the MM2 one.

Last thing: what about the other Mad Max movies' color grading? 

I quote captainsolo from the Mad Max 2 thread:

"The best evidence was provided by the original cinematographer on the commentary track IIRC. He talked of having to go to the film lab multiple times to push the colors to get that more saturated look of the desert. That is the intended look reflected on the 35mm theatrical prints, the VHS, LD and DVD issue from a print sourced master. That used a US print under the RW title and slightly edited. The BD uses what is presumably a fresh HD scan of the Australian master, hence the uncut film and MM2 title card. It also is the master so it lacks the intended color timing, making it yet another film misrepresented in HD due to using camera negatives and not replicating theatrical color timing."

I agree with his assessment,  it sounds like they didn't color time the HD negative scan. The 35mm print I saw recently was of 80's vintage and was the same color timing as the laserdisc and the old DVD, so clearly the Blu-ray is wrong. The funny thing is that Mad Max 3 Beyond Thunderdome always had the same "yellow" color timing as Mad Max 2/The Road Warrior, which makes sense being a sequel. For the new Blu-ray the color timing is the correct "yellow" same as the DVD and old Laserdisc. So they got that right, probably because they didn't go back to the untimed negative. So it makes MM2/RW stand out all the more since Thunderdome is the right color, same as its always been. Mad Max (the 1st movie) has always had a natural color look befitting it 70s naturalistic filming and seems right also.

Sorry if I derailed this thread, Andrea. I saw the work you did on The Thing (one of my favorite movies) got excited and thought your process would be perfect to fix MM2/RW (another of my favs). If you do want to go forward I have the latest Blu-ray (AVC, not the old VC-1), the old DVD and Jonno's Dolby Stereo Surround soundtrack (which must of been very hard to sync to the Blu-ray since it is a different cut)

Back to your regularly scheduled thread.

 


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#657049
Topic
The Thing (1982) [spoRv] *BD-25 RELEASED*
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_,,,^..^,,,_ said:

Thanks a lot to all of you! The appreciation posts keep me going on.

@PDB: I can't be 100% sure my version is the right Thing, but considering the Teal&Orange trend, I'm quite confident John Carpenter will like it - I'm secretely hoping someone in his staff will find it, call him and says: "John, take a look..."; and him, after watching the comparison, says: "Who changes the colors in the BD? I didn't approve that blue cast over all images! I could be old, but still know snow should be white and not blue!" (^^,)

 

It would be nice to ask Carpenter but sometimes directors betray themselves with changes or reinvent the past or plain forget how their movie was suppose to look. I won't talk about Lucas but I'm reminded of William Friedkin's color changes to French Connection. He went all out changing the colors to some bizarre mess but after there was such universal hate, he kind of denied being responsible and a new Blu-ray was issued with corrected colors.

Man I love Carpenter's early work, Halloween, Fog, Escape, Thing, Big Trouble, classics everyone of them. Sad no one makes those kind of films anymore. Did anyone ever ask Carpenter about the color changes in Halloween? I know Dean Cundey (the cinematographer) is suppose to fix with the next blu-ray so we can only hope. Regardless, I have The Thing on HD-DVD, Blu-ray and now your version, Andrea, so I am happy. I choose what to watch.

Also nice to have the Dolby Stereo Surround soundtrack. I'm into Dolby Stereo tracks right now. Ripping all my laserdiscs so I can merge them to Blu-rays (even though synceing is harder then I thought). I got a used Fosgate Model 5 so I can listen to these is "old" Pro-Logic and not Pro Logic II or DTS-Neo. I want to see if I can find any other "old" Pro-Logic decoders. Each had a slightly different way of decoding.

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#656976
Topic
The Thing (1982) [spoRv] *BD-25 RELEASED*
Time

Just finished downloading and watching. Great work Andrea! Just a great effort. Like others this is one of my favorite films so I'm always glad to watch it. I do like the color timing for a lot of things (no pun intended) like the snow being white. Not sure which is correct coloring. The HD DVD and blu-ray look like they used a combination of blue filters and blue gels which would of been common in carpenter's work at the time but I don't know. Publicity photos from the time look like Andrea's version but those are never indicative of the final print. One wonders if the hddvd and br used a different print then the ld? Regardless I love having both versions. Each evokes a slightly different feel/mood and each has as much right calling itself the "correct" color. Nothing but praise from me.

Andrea, I know you are working The Matrix but after that if I might make a humble suggestion for your next project, Mad Max 2/The Road Warrior is perfect for your process. The bluray has the totally wrong color timing. More blue vs the laserdisc and original DVD which had a yellow, more desert like coloring. I recently saw a 35mm print of mm2 and the color timing was exactly the same as the laserdisc and DVD not the blu ray. There is a long discusion in the mm2 thread here but you can get the idea from these pics:

http://www.blu-ray.com/images/reviews/upload/cc1.png

http://www.blu-ray.com/images/reviews/upload/cc2,jpg.jpg

http://www.blu-ray.com/images/reviews/upload/cc3.jpg

Also Jonno has the great Dolby Stereo Surround soundtrack from the laserdisc. Anyway great work on The Thing.

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#655241
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Indiana Jones Trilogy (Released)
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_,,,^..^,,,_ said:

PDB said:

It is similar but clearly the widescreen LD was re-mixed to be a bit more aggressive. I have it if you want it, just drop me a line.

Thanks for the offer - just please wait until the things will be more clear... if you can provide also video along with audio, it will be great, as it's easyer to sync. What about the other two movies, have you them, and do they sounds different from their widescreen counterparts too? And, right because we are here, what about P&S colors Vs LB colors?

I have this LD for temple:

http://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/11028/LV-1643/Indiana-Jones-and-the-Temple-of-Doom-(1984)

and similar to Raiders the mix isn't as aggressive. Same sounds just mixed very slightly different

only this is PCM unlike Raiders' analog. It leads me to believe that the widescreen Indy LDs are remixed.

Having said that, Temple of Doom's widescreen Dolby Surround Stereo soundtrack is perhaps one

of the best mixes I have ever heard regardless of it not being discreet.  Hell unlike the DVD or Blu

mix it has the original dialog panning. The widescreen LD of Raiders and Crusade are pretty good too.

 

Been awhile since I watched them to see if there are color changes but I can check the p&s of both to see.

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#655231
Topic
Indiana Jones Trilogy (Released)
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PDB said:

Hi Andrea,

      If you do go forward with your Raiders Project. I can give you the PCM track from this disc:

http://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/11024/LV-1376-WS/Indiana-Jones:-Raiders-of-the-Lost-Ark-(1981)

which you probably already have but I also have  the analog Dolby Surround for this disc:

http://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/11029/LV-1376/Indiana-Jones:-Raiders-of-the-Lost-Ark-(1981)

which has different dynamics/surround mix. Let me know if you want it and good luck on the project if you decide to go forward.

Thanks for the help - you are right I have this along with the other two movies; but I was not aware that the analog soundtrack had different mix!

It is similar but clearly the widescreen LD was re-mixed to be a bit more aggressive. I have it if you want it, just drop me a line.

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#655220
Topic
Indiana Jones Trilogy (Released)
Time

Hi Andrea,

      If you do go forward with your Raiders Project. I can give you the PCM track from this disc:

http://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/11024/LV-1376-WS/Indiana-Jones:-Raiders-of-the-Lost-Ark-(1981)

which you probably already have but I also have  the analog Dolby Surround for this disc:

http://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/11029/LV-1376/Indiana-Jones:-Raiders-of-the-Lost-Ark-(1981)

which has different dynamics/surround mix. Let me know if you want it and good luck on the project if you decide to go forward.