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#1358826
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What are the themes of the Star Wars movies?
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I agree with you on most, adding to the list:

TPM - Believing in yourself and learning to work with / trust others.
AOTC - Uhhh not sure. This is a really poorly made movie so it doesn’t really have a theme: the closet is love finds a way, but that only covers the Anakin/Padme stuff, the Obi Wan and Geonosis parts have no story besides a series of setpieces.
ROTS - Love used as a corrupting influence (actually a really cool concept, a shame it’s executed so poorly).
ANH - Faith.
ESB - The real world isn’t a fairytale.
ROTJ - Trusting in friends and believing in someone’s inner good/the power of love.
TFA - Cowardice and Moving on from the Past.
TLJ - Failure and Learning from it.
TORS - Trusting in friends and Moving on from the Past (two stolen themes).

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#1358301
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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So today I started messing around with adding more color to ROTS. TCW Season 7 has a really great palette and I wanted to try replicating that in the movie. For what it’s worth ROTS is better than most blockbuster in color filtering, but I have noticed a faint blue/green hue over the movie. So the plan is to add some reds and contrast while not oversaturating everyone’s face into ugliness 😃

I was shocked by how effective it was. This is all done with one curves setup, so I’m really excited to see what I can get if I break it down scene by scene.

https://imgur.com/a/exl9iPu

I think adding extra color and contrast makes the movie look so much more dynamic and interesting.

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#1357676
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Help: Need ideas for <strong>Clone Wars Mandalorian Arc</strong> (3rd project)
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My suggestion would be to either focus the plot on Maul or Mandalore. I made an edit based around Maul in TCW (pre-Season 7), and it only included the Mandalore episodes when absolutely necessary. There was a 10 minute trim of Voyage of Temptation just to establish Obi-Wan and Satine’s relationship, but the rest of the first half was all Maul and Savage episodes.

So my suggestion is either focus it on Maul and Dathomir, only bringing in Mandalore and Death Watch when they are relevant, or focus it on Mandalore and have Maul only show up around when Death Watch finds him.

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#1355958
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Star Wars Headcanons
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The Force is not a marvel superpower. It’s found in everyone. Midichlorians are just what generate when you believe in the force. From this raw talent you must work to hone your skills, just like any other task.

Like Obi-Wan says, you just need to let go. Child Anakin and Rey both dream of the tales of heroes, hence their initial talent. Then you need to hone your skills, which Anakin does in the Jedi Temple and Rey does through scavenging.

Luke was more challenging because he didn’t let go and was always skeptical. He wanted to be a pilot, not Jedi. But once he embraces the force at the Trench Run, he too understands.

So yeah Han Solo could have been a Jedi if he wanted

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#1354560
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The Usual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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Anakin Starkiller said:

The problem with the Emperor escaping is Vader has nothing to sacrifice himself for. That’s why I prefer the Emperor surviving on life support.

Maybe he uses the force to hold back the Death Star destroying Endor? Rough concept that just popped in my head, but I think it’d work.

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#1354066
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Ranking the Star Wars films
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KumoNin said:

I think the only thing more confusing to me than putting TLJ last are people who like the sequels and put TLJ as the worst of the three. You’re the former of these two confusing cases, but I am curious, have you rewatched it since it came out?

I’m someone who likes the sequels and puts TLJ as the worst. It’s not too complicated reasoning for me. I can sit back and enjoy the OT as well-made movies. I can also sit back and enjoy the ST as well-made movies. I cannot say the same for the PT, as funny as the memes are, so I put it behind the ST. Now to break apart the movies, I enjoy TFA and TROS much more than TLJ. TLJ is well-made but it’s not fun to watch. It tries too hard for my liking, with way too many characters and subplots that don’t mesh well at all. TFA is a retread of ANH, but it has fun while doing it. TROS is an admittedly bad story, but it’s so bad it becomes fun to watch.

On rewatch, I really tried to enjoy the concepts presented in TLJ, because on paper they do sound good. But when I rewatched it just didn’t work for me. The only parts I find worthwhile are Luke, Rey, and Ben. Still, it’s better than the PT, which is very dull and not fun whatsoever.

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#1352761
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What is the main Star Wars Saga about?
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ray_afraid said:

act on instinct said:

to say it’s about doing the right thing still leaves the actual moral underneath, what is the right thing to do?

The right thing to do is the thing that benefits all instead of one. Acting selflessly for the greater good.
That’s pretty much what the phrase means.

Not to dive into moral philosophy, but it’s a bit more nuanced than that. Would you kill someone to stop the spread of a disease if you are guaranteed it won’t get to the world at large? Or would you quarantine them and risk it getting out to infect millions?

^ btw this has nothing to do with current events, just a good philosophy example.

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#1352618
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The Usual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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Anakin Starkiller said:

What’s the equivalent of cheap frozen dinner in this context?

The Prequels. They come together in a package with a really fancy background but no real substance. The food sounds interesting in concept but turn up completely bland and flavorless. Only the last part is any good.

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#1352565
Topic
The Usual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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Oh man I’m so excited about the chef’s next three-course meal! I hear he really thought this one over, but we’ll see if it triumphs that amazing first dinner!

Appetizer: Generic Ceasar Salad.
What? I know this chef is really good, why so simple? Shouldn’t he be doing something that I can’t get everywhere else?

Entree: So the Chef accommodates with a super experimental fusion of International Cuisine.
What? I know I wanted something special, but this is too weird. I came here expecting Italian, why am I eating Indian… it’s a neat idea but not for this restaurant!

Desert: So the Chef rolls back and mashes as many sweets and chocolate as possible together for a desert.
What? These toppings don’t work together as well, you just added as many desert items together and expected me to like it because desert!

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#1350631
Topic
Revenge of The Sith four hour cut petition???
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Probably not (I thought the four hours was just the script, which spent a ton of time on the Invisible Hand), but even if it was filmed, it wouldn’t be remotely understandable (characters would just be walking on the green screen). They would have to invest a lot into making it presentable: and Lucasfilm still hasn’t released the original cuts of the OT, which they have right in their hands for free, so why would they go out of their way for something like this?

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#1349927
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The Usual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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No offense but this feels like the most un-Leia thing to do. I could maybe see it from Luke, only if Snoke tricks him into a force vision of the only solution for the Republic’s survival being a common enemy or something, and Luke is desperate to not fall into the same mistake as the old Jedi. But Leia? After Alderaan, directly allowing innocents to die? That’s not Leia.

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#1349759
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The Usual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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TFA is very intentionally planned. But not to be an interesting story, like most people here want now, but to be as Star Wars as possible. People today dislike it for that, but it was the smartest choice. The PT was hated at that point for being “not Star Wars” so they made the most Star Wars thing imaginable. Rebels vs Empire again, Han as smuggler again, superweapon finale again. Instead of exposition dumping the last 30 years they jumped to the action and JJ mystery-boxed the past. And you know what? It worked, at the time.

Once they had successfully roped people in they do what ESB did and subvert expectations. Whether they succeeded or failed is up to you. But it was thought out.

By TROS many people disliked TLJ and instead of sticking to their guns Disney was worried of alienating more people, so they went back to pleasing as many people as possible. Only this time it didn’t work. TROS was rushed with reshoots so it never had the possibility of being well thought out, and this was what we got.

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#1349578
Topic
Conclude the Original Trilogy differently
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STAR WARS EPISODE III: THE LAST STAND

The Rebellion has been pushed to the brink of extinction. Though many support secretly support its cause, they are unwilling to put their lives on the line.
To facilitate his final victory, the heinous EMPEROR has begun construction of two additional DEATH STARS at an undisclosed location.
With time running short, the Last Jedi embarks on a daring mission to find the hidden shipyards…

Pan down to Had Abaddon, an urban hellscape. The Empire has put the city on lockdown.

A speeder flies overhead and two bounty hunters and an R2 unit climb out. They’re sneaking around a restricted area, masterfully taking out Stormtroopers without any notice. Having reached their destination, they cut a path through a ventilation shaft and head towards the center of the building.

Finally, they reach it: the Holocron Vault. This is the Old Jedi Temple. The two bounty hunters unveil their masks to reveal Luke and Leia.

Luke explains to Leia that the Emperor keeps his top intel here, rather than the Imperial Databanks, and are only accessible by someone in tune to the Force. Leia asks if they should take all of them, but after some moments of temptation, Luke refuses: most have been corrupted, and contain such ghastly details he would rather not know.

In classic adventure fashion, the plan goes awry. Right as they leave, the alarms siren on and the trio must blast their way out. Luke shows off his lightsaber. There is a tense point where it appears R2 can’t override the doors in time, but they eventually get to the docking platform. Luke leaves Leia and R2 to distract the Stormtroopers, much to Leia’s distraught.

The Falcon, piloted by Lando and Chewie, arrives just in time, picking up Leia and R2 before following after Luke, now engaged in a massive cinematic chase with the Security Forces.

Just when he’s surrounded, the Falcon arrives, and Luke gives a sarcastic wave before force jumping out.

Lando asks if they got it, and Luke confirms: with this Jedi Holocron, they will know the location of the hidden shipyards. Luke opens himself up to the force… and is suddenly thrown into a rendition of the past!

Luke is invisible, watching a scene of his father Anakin Skywalker loving who he can only assume to be his mother. She tells him she is pregnant, and he is at first overjoyed… before turning to concern over what the Jedi will say.

The entire scene distorts itself for a moment, and then Luke is watching the Jedi Council, Obi-Wan and Yoda included. They are debating over the next course of the ongoing “Clone Wars”. Anakin suggests perhaps now is the time for compromise – this fight is drawing on too long – but Yoda stubbornly refuses, citing the dark side is the quick and easy path, and they must root out all evil once and all. The conference ends, and Anakin meets directly with the two masters. Anakin roundabout asks what the council’s view on external relationships is… and both Obi-Wan and Yoda stubbornly argue any “selfless” relationship, period, leans towards the dark side.

Luke comes out with nothing, only a tired mind and a radically different perspective on what he thought of the Jedi. When Leia consoles him, Luke walks off.

At the Rebel Headquarters on Sullust, leadership is pleased by the Holocron, even if it couldn’t be opened yet. Leia speaks with Mon Mothma and Gial Ackbar, who need her help in the recruitment of more star systems. The death of Leia’s father Bail on Alderaan lost one of their best speakers – both Mothma and Ackbar have been disgraced and have little political ties, but almost everyone agree that Bail was unjustly killed and his daughter would likely hold significant weight. But Leia refuses, saying she’s not like her father and is much more a rebel than a politician.

Mothma inserts a disc into a nearby droid, which shows a hologram of Bail speaking directly to Leia, explaining they just acquired it a week ago. It shows Bail speaking directly to Leia, explaining that in the event this “Death Star” should ever fire on Alderaan, he wants her to know he is very proud of her, and that she has a great future ahead. Leia agrees to the mission: if they are going to attack these shipyards, they will need all the allies they can get.

Luke heads to a cave to meditate with the Holocron. Then Vader appears, startling Luke but then assuring he isn’t actually present, rather this is a Bond through the Force. Vader explains both he and his master are fellow aware of the stolen Holocron, and he has reached out to Luke to ask him what he saw. Vader explains the Holocron will force the opener to see through the past, in order to understand it, and he hopes now Luke understands why the Jedi is a failed religion. Luke admits the Jedi made one mistake, but that’s nothing compared to the horrors of the Empire. Vader tempts Luke to look into the Holocron again and then vanishes.

Luke looks. He finds a slightly older Anakin speaking with an old friendly man, Chancellor Palpatine. Palpatine explains that he is worried of the Jedi’s insistence on fighting the Droid Foundries in the name of the “Light Side” and “Dark Side” and only wants what is best for the Republic. Anakin tells the Chancellor he overheard Master Windu speaking with Yoda and Obi-Wan of possible plans to use overthrow him should he push forward with the vote for political compromise. Palpatine appears unmoved, stating he will not be bullied, and will only do what he feels is right.

The scene shifts. It is now night, and Anakin is with Luke’s mother. They are talking about “the baby” when Anakin explains he can’t handle this political and social mindgames they always play to hide from the Council. He decides he is going to walk out of the order.

The scene shifts again. Anakin is speaking to the Council. Mace Windu, one of the Jedi, seems very angered by Anakin’s betrayal and is happy to see him gone. Yoda looks concerned but stays quiet. Obi-Wan, though, pursues Anakin and tries to make him reverse his decision. Anakin refuses, goes on a mini-rant on all the things the Jedi have ruined, and how Palpatine seems to be the only real friend who cares about someone other than themself before leaving without saying goodbye.

The scene shifts a final time. Anakin and Luke’s mother are packing their bags to leave from Coruscant, with Padme visibly pregnant. Then, a great “boom” is heard from the Senate Building. Anakin sees Jedi ships arriving amidst laser fire, and runs off. He enters the Chancellor’s office just in time to see Mace Windu holding Palpatine at saber point… and stabs him in the heart, dead. Anakin screams and charges at Windu, who not expecting someone from his side is immediately killed. Anakin grabs the dying Chancellor, who tells him in his final moments that he was right, the Jedi refused to cooperate with the Sith, and calls on Anakin to avenge him.

Luke falls out of the force vision. The Holocron has been opened, but at what cost? Luke is now re-evaluating every decision that he has taken. Was the Empire right? Luke gives the Holocron to the alliance, which decodes the data as Kashyyk – where Chewebacca’s people are being used as slave labor to construct the two battlestations. Lando and Chewie rally for battle while Leia sets off on her own quest for much-needed reinforcements, but Luke doesn’t help either. Instead, he heads to Dagobah – for answers.

End of Act One.

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#1349233
Topic
Star Wars Episode IX (was) to be directed by Colin Trevorrow - DUEL OF THE FATES RIP
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idir_hh said:

According to a very recent interview with Colin Trevorrow (May 8th) on AnimalTalking: He wasn’t fired. It was the bad reception of Book of Henry that prompted him to “hand over the ball” and leave

https://youtu.be/-Xl9F8bnJVM (50:00 - 52:00)

I find that highly unlikely. He had the perfect opportunity to redeem himself with one of the biggest movies of the year. More likely Disney said “hey we might fire you wink wink if you want to maintain your reputation maybe resign around now wink wink”

^ And as interesting as DOTF is, I don’t blame Disney for this, because I too would be nervous when the big finale is written and directed by a filmmaker who just had a major flop.

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#1349069
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The Usual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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StarkillerAG said:

Also, I don’t think anyone has pointed this out yet, but the Trade Federation guys wouldn’t work either. Anakin killed them in Episode III.

In general, I don’t think reusing old shots for the big finale is a good idea. It seems like a big nostalgic fanservice scene would have to be a decision made during production, and it just isn’t feasible here.

I don’t think he killed the entire species.

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#1348883
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The Usual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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JakeRyan17 said:

Yeah, it would need to be people aged appropriately… even Baby Yoda would be older with another thirty years. I agree we need more characters we recognise, but it should be clear they’re present in the scene, rather than flashbacks. Without reshoots, I dunno if you can naturally add them in.

I’d love to deepfake the Clones to look older (current head-canon is the Kaminoans started producing them again), but I don’t know how that tech works. I wouldn’t mind learning it though.

For Baby Yoda… Yoda about the equivalent to 90 when he’s 900 years old, right? So if Baby Yoda is 50 years old, him being 80 years old is the equivalent of going from 5 years old to 8 years old. I could try enlarging him in a rotoscope to make that difference seem more noticeable, but I can’t think of any other approach. Unless we deepfake Yoda’s face onto Baby Yoda and apply a young filter?

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#1348866
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The Usual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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VERSION TWO
https://vimeo.com/422255626
Password: fanedit (all lowercase)

I have made two big changes to Lando’s arrival, each of which addresses the two biggest contributors to why I feel the scene feels “forced”. First, the scene gives next to no build-up between Snap’s death to Lando’s return. I’ve already touched on this – for this second version, I removed any lines of the First Order losing a destroyer and smoothed the audio to feel less choppy.

The second change is all I see are ships, not people. For all I care Lando could have shown up with only Wedge. We needed to see the people showing up, ideally, people from across the saga. This is pure fan service, but I think this is the one place where it should be used. We’ve spent nine movies learning about the various characters from across the galaxy, now it is time for all that to pay off and for all sorts of peoples and factions to return to stop the Empire. It presents much more emotion than just “oh look cgi noise”.

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#1348744
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The Usual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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MY ONE ADDITON: https://vimeo.com/422031021
(password is fanedit)

Apparently it isn’t, cuz it’s not letting me in.

I found the problem. Apparently I capitalized the “F”. Lol.

MY ONE ADDITON: https://vimeo.com/422031021
(Fanedit)

So I will have to cut the line “another star destroyer down” which isn’t a problem in the slightest, and then maybe smooth out the music reduction I have in the scene. Then we unveil to the big epic music.

I will also try this with the normal theme.