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#1259192
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Has anyone attempted to put Holdo in The Force Awakens so that her character doesn't feel shoehorned into The Last Jedi?
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RogueLeader said:

If Holdo has been Ackbar it wouldn’t have really worked. The whole point of Holdo is to be someone we don’t know and don’t trust, much like Poe, someone without an established relationship with the audience.

Interesting point, but I’d argue that suits Ackbar’s character perfectly.

From the films we don’t know much about Ackbar. He’s a talented strategist. But the moment the rebels realize the shields are still on, Ackbar immediately says “retreat”. It’s Lando who encourages them to keep fighting. Even the trap line signifies he doesn’t like to have the odds stacked against while on the offensive.

In fact, when we think of Ackbar we immediately go to the Battle of Endor. Like Poe immediately jumping to Holdo’s victory. Poe/audience has high expectations to see the leader in a commanding role, but is disappointed by their retreating. This lines up perfectly for Ackbar, who we all think is cool but know little about.

I imagine people would just hate on TLJ anyway with the claim “they ruined Ackbar”, but personally I think he’d be a better choice.

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#1258726
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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Elected Monarchies existed and do work, but are rather confusing especially with the modern definition of an absolute monarch. I think making Naboo a presidential republic would make much more sense, but on second thought having to replace every single instance of “queen” in TPM’s dialogue track sounds like a lot of work to replace something passable.

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#1258492
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Episode IX - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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Hal 9000 said:

The one thing about Anakin’s ghost that would make me get up and leave would be if he’s evil.

*See any rant of mine about the meaning of Anakin’s redemption in ROTJ, re: why the argument for Hayden ghost about his ‘good self’ dying in ROTS is fundamentally wrong, even if Lucas says so.

I agree, Shaw would be preferred but unfortunately he is one with the force. Hayden is the best option remaining (sorry Jake)- unless they could pull a Tarkin on us.

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#1258489
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Episode IX - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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DominicCobb said:

OutboundFlight said:

Tobar said:

Anakin Starkiller said:

And knowing JJ, there’s a very good chance that’s happening.

Are we talking about the same JJ?

I know he has a distaste for the PT BUT I can easily see him getting over it if he can use it to maximize the emotional manipulation of the audience. Which will be his primary goal for the end of the film/saga.

No way. JJ is an OT fanboy. He’s gonna use Lando as much as possible, as well as force ghost Yoda and Luke. But not Hayden (which would be a great way to at least create somewhat of a unification between George’s saga and the Disney saga).

JJ somehow manages to be everyone’s boogeyman.

The Fanboy-ness works for TFA, but I am worried he might descend into more nostalgia when crafting the conclusion to not just the Sequel Trilogy or the story Luke started in ANH… but also the rise and fall Anakin Skywalker. Rian Johnson did help mark some shifts, but it’s up to the filmmakers of 9 to either go all in with the new… or revert to nostalgia.

I had hopes JJ would listen to the feedback, but am very confused why Lando is in the new movie. Wasn’t the entire point of killing Han and Luke so we could have space for Rey and Kylo? This should be their story and yet I find after two films we still haven’t reached that point.

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#1258458
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Episode IX - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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Tobar said:

Anakin Starkiller said:

And knowing JJ, there’s a very good chance that’s happening.

Are we talking about the same JJ?

I know he has a distaste for the PT BUT I can easily see him getting over it if he can use it to maximize the emotional manipulation of the audience. Which will be his primary goal for the end of the film/saga.

No way. JJ is an OT fanboy. He’s gonna use Lando as much as possible, as well as force ghost Yoda and Luke. But not Hayden (which would be a great way to at least create somewhat of a unification between George’s saga and the Disney saga).

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#1257430
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The Sequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread (Radical Ideas Welcome).
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BleuAsh said:

I think an excellent edit would be to cut out the back stories of Finn and Poe, at least initially. Maybe open the movie with Rey and her life on Jakku and then she runs into BB8 and then eventually Fin. This would add some mystery as to the characters and what is going on. We do not need to know that Fin is a stormtrooper and instead we discover that. This would not be a bad thing. Try and keep the focus completely on Rey and make Poe and Finn solid supporting roles.

That’s a great idea! Perhaps footage of Finn’s betrayal could be played as a flashback while he’s in a coma in TLJ?

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#1257326
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The Sequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread (Radical Ideas Welcome).
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Yes. The Last Jedi has way too many main characters and subplots:

• Rey
• Chewie
• R2
• Luke

• Finn
• Rose
• BB8
• DJ

• Poe
• Holdo
• Leia
• C-3PO

• Kylo
• Snoke
• Hux
• Phasma

Even ROTS, the most meandering of the films, maintains a focus because it is building to the purge. But I struggle to find much of a common message within TLJ, as it’s more four stories combined.

While challenging to fix, I think sidelining Poe to a bystander showing us how dangerous things are would make Rey’s return for memorable. A radical edit could completely cut Finn’s pointless side quest.

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#1256299
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The Sequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread (Radical Ideas Welcome).
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An old theory turned radical idea I had was for Snoke to claim to be Palpatine reborn, establishing the old villian once again as the big bad of the galaxy.

However, it would later be revealed that Snoke was actually an imposter who simply used the idea of Palpatine to gain power. He really has no force powers at all, like the wizard of oz. That would retain Vader’s sacrifice while Palpatine’s presence is felt throughout the saga.

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#1256152
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your thoughts: Did Disney kill star wars because it sounds like they did with the last jedi solo and resistance.
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CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

I’m sure it took you more than a week to become the supreme leader’s right hand man.

Not really. Snoke just assumed he would be the next Vader. He encouraged Kylo’s turn so I imagine his rise to power was a walk in the park. Snoke never thought anyone would even think to betray him.

So while he did bid his time, I do think he could of done this whole change within a month if he had wanted.

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#1256106
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your thoughts: Did Disney kill star wars because it sounds like they did with the last jedi solo and resistance.
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CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

snooker said:

Kylo Ren murdered Han Solo, Luke Skywalker, Snoke, and nearly took over the entire Galaxy in two films.

I’m pretty sure Luke won that battle, despite dying. Murdering Han wasn’t that impressive. Murdering Snoke was. And taking over the galaxy followed naturally, because Snoke had already taken it over. So really only one major accomplishment.

The greatest accomplishment ever honestly. Even Palpatine needed years and years of planning to execute his take over. Kylo pulled it off within one perfectly executed attack on the capital, followed by a coup of his own faction. All in the span of a week.