joshkitchen90 said:Does anybody know how I can get a copy of the Phantom Edit, and its sequel? Or downlaoding it without getting viruses?
you can get attack of the phantom via torrent, just search it. Phantom edit...idk
I would love to see some Coruscant in Jedi. Just to bring the whole thing full circle.
Ripplin said:JediMasterFisher said:Thank you so much for handbrake! It worked beautifully!
And is it properly framed, or stretched like mine turned out? (forces the widescreen to stretch to fullscreen)
Yeah, Handbrake keeps the proper aspect ratio by default. The only thing you have to worry about on the Star Wars films is the alien subtitles (you have to select the right Track) but Ady's are already hard-encoded
JediMasterFisher said:I want to put revisited on my iPod does anyone know a good program to do so?
if you have the DVD5 or DVD9 use Handbrake
Merry Christmas (to everyone who celebrates it) and to everyone else Happy Holidays.
I got a new tripod and a blu-ray player :D
Happy Holidays! (sorry if that's too politically correct for you guys lol)
Siliconmaster482 said:Happy holidays, everyone. The weather here can't figure out whether to rain, snow, or sleet. Right now it stopped doing anything to ponder the issue. :P I cannot wait to see what new suggestions appear next. Keep the ideas coming. :D
lol same here. Happy Holidays everyone!
rcb said:Octorox said:Gaffer Tape said:Well, then, I hope my rant didn't offend you. But I'm very interested to know what it is that makes you like him. Granted, the only Star Wars media I've seen him in is ROTS. I thought I heard he was better portrayed in the old Clone Wars series. I really would like to hear someone like you explain to me why you like this character because... I can't find anything to like about him (and, like I said, I even liked Jar-Jar, so I'm not too hard to please), and I would really like to understand your point of view on this one.
I love Grevious in that series. He is so damn badass. In the second clip he sounds too much like Vader in ANH though.
thank you! yes he runs away everytime, but in the novels he does also. they way he cutted through the clones to get to palpatine, damn you want badass? grevious is badass.
In that series. The problem is that Grievous in ROTS is nothing like the Grievous in that series.
skyjedi2005 said:Sorry man. I thought i remembered your comments in the clone wars tv thread to that effect.
If i remembered wrongly i apologise.
As for Episode 1 and how the film was shot etc. I think it was documented somewhat by American Cinematographer and Cinefex magazines.
But David Tatterstall Cinematography really does not do the same as Gil Taylor. I realise he researched the look of the original tatooine photography and stuff. Not just Gil Taylor, the cinematographers on the original trilogy were just better imho. The same with the original indiana jones trilogy.
Lucas and Spielberg got these replacement Cinematographers who were not as good, again imho.
Of course Ben Burrt is no Marcia Lucas when it comes to film editing either.
But then again george uses the avid system as far as i know and does not edit the same anymore himself. He does not cut film as he no longer even uses film.
You know that cutting a film used to refer to piecing together the celluloid with editors glue or cement, on a moviela or an upright KEM editing station. I know almost all of the phantom menace was shot on 35mm motion picture film but was not physically edited. It was digitized then edit in computers and printed back out onto film. Thereby losing quality in the image. Lucas could now go back to the camera oneg and get a 4k scan but i don't think he would want to spend the money on it. Besides the edits that were done on computers would have to redone and reassemble the movie from that point.
Computers are just a tool. Digital Video is too. It's what you do with them. Plenty of good looking movies have come out on digital by now, the format has matured, AOTC was an early adopter which Is why it looked bad and both digital prequels just completely ignored the look of the originals and went for it's own look. ROTS didn't look bad, it just looked very CG and not like the originals.
I still believe they should have went with 80's stock and more practical effects though, for continuity's sake.
Gaffer Tape said:Well, then, I hope my rant didn't offend you. But I'm very interested to know what it is that makes you like him. Granted, the only Star Wars media I've seen him in is ROTS. I thought I heard he was better portrayed in the old Clone Wars series. I really would like to hear someone like you explain to me why you like this character because... I can't find anything to like about him (and, like I said, I even liked Jar-Jar, so I'm not too hard to please), and I would really like to understand your point of view on this one.
I love Grevious in that series. He is so damn badass. In the second clip he sounds too much like Vader in ANH though.
Gaffer Tape said:I actually caught the tail-end of that episode last night, and that's been my first ever exposure to The Clone Wars. Other than the "droidekas" so poorly missing Jar-Jar (for a second, I really thought he might bite it... and the image I pictured made me laugh), it wasn't so bad. But I only saw about three minutes, so I don't know...
But as for what you said, SilverWook, it seems we're supposed to believe that the Jedi Council has the same intelligence as Jar-Jar Binks.
Yoda: Senator Amidala. Pants of Young Skywalker you have in your bed. Understand the connotations, I do not!
Oh, and I was going to say underwear at first, but my own signature reminded me that that's just not possible in Star Wars.
ROFL
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Josh said:umm, I took a try at recording boba, ummm ya *silence*
Anyway, could anyone try to sych the audio to the video
http://rapidshare.com/files/175264785/Boba.aup.html
EDIT-It does not seem to work, oh well, it's for the better lol. I'm curious to see how you pulled of boba!
hmm. It seems it because you only included the project and not the audio files. you need to export it as a wav or something.
stossmo said:Erikstormtrooper said:AxiaEuxine said:What do you plan to do? Have Dooku cut off Anakin's arm, sigh and then board his ship and leave?
I hate to keep popping in with other edits to check out, but ...
The Phantom Editor's version of Episode II (Attack of the Phantom), successfully removes the lightsaber fight between Yoda and Dooku. Dooku does some force-throwing and lightning, and then he just reaches over and causes the column to start falling onto Anakin and Obi Wan. As Yoda stops the column, Dooku gets away.
Seriously, any time Yoda has a lightsaber battle with a Sith, I feel like I'm watching the dali lama and Osama bin Laden have a knife fight.
really? my version doesnt excise the lightsaber fight. He explained in the commentary that he worried removing it would take too much from the movie and he ultimately kept it. Ide be interested to see the version you have if that could be arranged.
If you click on the "phantom editor" symbol around that part it takes you too a cut where he removes the fight.
Well I've been experimenting with a trial of AE and a very cool tool called Colorama which can adjust the opacity of certain shades individually. Again, this might be bit drastic but I think I've come up with something.
Trooperman said:
Right, the obvious question is why does Owen buy 3PO in Ep. IV.
Well, for one thing several years have passed. 3PO is painted a different color (and there are other protocol droids that look like 3PO).
The other thing is that in SOTDS he turns to Beru and says, "Doesn't even speak Bocce." He's a protocol droid, and he can't even do that. He's good for nothing.
So if you look in Ep. IV in that light, Owen seems very wary of 3PO, and the resemblance is bothering him.
"Do you speak Bocce?" he says finally.
And of course 3PO claims that he does. So Owen buys him. The funny part being that he bought 3PO twice.
I still haven't figured out the memory wipe issue in Ep. III though...
very cool
Trooperman said:^^It had to do with introducing 3PO in Ep. II rather than having Anakin build him in Ep. I. It was a plot related thing. In SOTDS, 3PO is an annoying protocol robot dumped on the young couple by the Jawas. Owen actually offers to pay Anakin or Padme to take the droid.
Also, 3PO's voice is different- I took his lines from the radio dramas, both for plot and because the pitch of his voice sounds like the OT now.
Knightmessenger said:I'm not sure if those color adjustments really help. Desaturating color helps make bad cinematography less obvious but it doesn't really go at the problem. It's easy to see the color doesn't look as good as a usual film but does anybody know exactly why? What attributes is it missing? The other thing is temporarily increasing the saturation might help reveal the problems better.
I don't want to brag or anything but I think I have a pretty good eye for color correction. (I should thank this site as well as Lucas screwing up the 2004 dvds so badly for helping me develop it.) I enhance and crop most of the photos I upload to facebook while many others don't even bother to rotate the pictures (which FB lets you do easily) that are vertically oriented. I'm pretty good at removing a color tint and I just discovered on Vegas that I can adjust the midtones/highlights/blacks of color separately. From what I've observed the color space needs to be stretched out; that is colors look more vivid with more contrast if the bright areas don't have the same tint as the dark areas. This ability seems to be something 1 ccd cameras lack. I was able to use this 3 way color correction technique to great success for a music video I did of my sister. I used my TRV-615 Hi8 but I think the correction (along with more saturation) made a lot of the clips look like they were shot with a 3ccd camera.
Does it make sense that the attributes of the HD video to film could be similar (although not nearly as drastic) to differences between a 1ccd and 3ccd camera?
I don't know how video to film would relate to 1 ccd and 3ccd...but what you're saying makes sense to me, and I do know that film has a much wider dynamic range than HD...
I think we should definitely look more at this if there's time- stretching out the color space in a natural way would be a lot better than losing a lot of the color, which is what happened in a lot of scenes. I wanted to desaturate it some, but now in some cases it just looks like a faded print.
Scenes like the droid factory, though, I don't want to play around with too much further because the CGI was just so awful I made the whole thing dark with shadows and smoke so you couldn't really see the machines- only silhouettes of arms, cranes, etc. I like how that turned out because the original scene was so bad and unartistic.
How are you going to solve that Owen doesn't recognize 3PO in ANH?
C3PX said:Octorox said:C3PX said:Octorox said:Why exactly are you re-dubbing Owen and Lama Su? Did you just not like the original voices?
New lines.
What does he have planned? the phantom editor was able to fix their lines really well without redubbing. Unless you plan to eliminate the whole Sifo Diyas thing. Owens are fine though. Phantom Editor was able to remove the whole "stepbrother" thing.
This is a very different kind of edit from that of the Phantom Editor's. Trooperman really made some very large changes throughout the movie. Sometimes redubbing characters was the best way to change the plot at some points or to cover up wholes left by deleted scenes.
Your best bet to understanding the spirit of this edit would be to go back and read page one.
Oh I know it's a far more drastic edit. I'm just saying that I'm not sure exactly what could be achieved by redubbing Owen. Any weak lines can really be edited out as the phantom editor did and Owen doesn't have enough screen time to really add anything to the story with a redub IMO. btw has anyone thought about turning Geonosis into Tatooine and Naboo into Alderaan? I'd like to see a full-scale battle on Tatooine
Bingowings said:The Golden Idol said:Bingowings said:P.S. On the subject of Threepio I remember that Lucas originally intended to give him a used car salesman voice and we are short of a Han Solo style positive cynic it might be possible to keep Threepio but give him a very different way of expressing himself (something like Bender from "Futurama") which would explain why Owen doesn't recognise him (he looks different and he sounds different too).
Then 3PO would be unrecognizable by the audience! I say just cut 'im out.
The audience and R2 would know who he was but Owen and Beru wouldn't and Ben and Vader would only suspect it.
Basically he could be the same character but with a different voice and mode of expression.
Look at Han in ANH, "I'm not going anywhere", "What's the point of getting a reward if you ain't around to use it?" etc.
Is it that different to "I'm not getting in there", "This is suicide" etc (only the voice is different, the words mean almost the same thing).
Both appear on the surface to be self surving but when push comes to shove Han saves Luke and Threepio's first concern in Cloud City is to warn the others about the Stormtroopers.
If Threepio started off as this blunt, slightly oily character and lost his memories and gained a new voice but still acted the same, it would play against the expectations of the audience and give an editor a character that could say almost anything to change the mode of the story.
Threepio met another protocol droid which bad mouthed him in Cloud City (in a very different voice) so why not have him start out that way before his memory got wiped?
I was thinking just make him a different protocol droid altogether. He could be removed in TPM and in AOTC he could just be the Lar's old protocol droid with a new voice.
OzoneSherrif said:If Vader's suit and helmet still remains in the edit his helmet should be like this:
It is from the EFX prop collectibles company based on one of McQuarries concept sketches of Vader. Most of the other concepts for Vader ranged from a face mask (and a full head of hair) to a Stormtrooper helmet and other helmets more like the Vader we all know and love but meaner. But I like this one because it isn't too outrageously evil. less refined you know
And a very relevant link
http://secrethistoryofstarwars.com/visualdevelopmentofdarthvader.html
I REALLY like that design. I'd like to see a modified version of it in the PT.
Rhikter said:Originally posted by Octorox:
"Okay, if the tech isn't more advanced than why can't Darth Vader climb up walls and fight with four lightsabers at once? Why can't the empire have an army of roly poly droids that can be stored in masses, deploy personal bubble shields and take out Jedi. Droids in the OT hobble or roll along. Droids in the PT can run around and attack people."
True, Vader can't do those things, but that's because both his and Grievous's bodies are based on two completely different production concepts. Vader's prosthetics are meant to emulate natural human motion as best as possible. It's not a matter of one it better than the other, because they are two different things that can't be lobbed into the same category together.
In regards to droids: following the birth of the Empire battle droids where deemed inferior in comparison to living breathing troops and thus abandoned. It's not that the Empire doesn't have the ability to utilize battle droids. They just chose not to. Not to mention the fact that you're comparing the likes of protocol, medical and repair droids to FREAKING BATTLE DROIDS.
Oh come on. If things could just form bubble shields around themselves why doesn't every unit have one? Why don't the stormtroopers have little transformer walkers they can deploy from cubes. OT technology is clunky and practical while PT tech is crazy science fiction stuff that doesn't seem like it could possibly be engineered.
This better? I'm thinking about taking a crack at Apple Color, since it's an app that came with FC Studio and is soley for Color Correction, but his a really weird interface.
Josh said:Hmmm, I don't know, It's more like there ghosts, what we need is Adobe CS4 For color correction, I don't have it, but there are ways of getting it without buying it (Cough)
What are you using?
Final Cut Pro. You are right, it's too drastic. I applied that for the nighttime scenes but It would have to be changed alot for daytime scenes.
C3PX said:Octorox said:Why exactly are you re-dubbing Owen and Lama Su? Did you just not like the original voices?
New lines.
What does he have planned? the phantom editor was able to fix their lines really well without redubbing. Unless you plan to eliminate the whole Sifo Diyas thing. Owens are fine though. Phantom Editor was able to remove the whole "stepbrother" thing.
