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- TFA: A Gentle Restructure (Released)
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Lookin’ good.
Lookin’ good.
I’m still very interested in this edit and I’m intrigued by what you’re doing with Anakin’s character. I will say that when I watched the preview, the music changes were distracting to me, partially because the old music can still be heard underneath and partially just because I prefer most of John Williams’s choices: a lot of the changes feel a bit too melodic to be over dialogue when subtle underscore would work better.
Very well done except for the fact that they teleport from Scarif to Tatooine.
good point! Ideally, Tatooine should be painted out of the shot of the escape pod. I think that would help maintain continuity.
I don’t see how that would help…they still land on Tatooine, don’t they?
I’d be very interested in checking this out.
I originally didn’t love that scene but I’ve grown to appreciate it. In the theatrical version, the fact that Padme is a senator and the leader of the opposition is constantly referenced but we never actually get to see that demonstrated in any way. The senate scene gives her character a bit more strength and establishes the political landscape nicely, and so I chose to leave it in my edit as well.
Agreed with Hal on the other lines as well. They’re certainly stilted but they establish a sense of progression that is missing in edits like l8wrtr’s that (in my opinion) overcut those scenes.
Hairstyle changes from scene to scene? She gets that from her mother.
I don’t know how I missed that one. It looks good, although “their weapon” would seal the deal.
I just can’t abide by the weapon being based in the Hosnian system since my canon-brain knows that’s where the New Republic Senate is. Change that and I’m cool with it.
Couldn’t it work as just “He’s familiar with the weapon, he worked on the base.”
Edit: or just cut out reference to the weapon entirely.
Yeah I’m not a fan of this, particularly as a proponent of the “Starkiller Base is Illum” theory.
I think having Snap’s line start before the shot changes is enough to buffer the transition. The wipe actually makes it feel more abrupt because it’s such a quick wipe.
No worries, I too do that all the time 😃
Last night I played around with Youtube rips of the deleted scenes trying to cobble together a usable mockup of Leia at the Resistance base: https://mega.nz/#!iY83FLZI!U5kMj4Efpv70sttWNIQL507rkKf19JgGn7MUJSmnBm4
It feels somewhat jarring the first time, but after a few watchthroughs I don’t feel the deletion of the Finn material nearly as much.
The wipes feel unnecessary, but this is a really strong proof of concept.
Hal 9000 said:
And, as much as I love the little moment with Leia in the deleted scene, I doubt I’ll use it. The scene, as presented on the BluRay, begins and ends extremely abruptly, with not even a split second of buffer. Given the one place in the movie it would need to go, I don’t think it would be seamless. It’s a shame these deleted scenes weren’t presented to us the way the prequels’ were on DVD: as spruced up finished sequences, for the most part, presented in the same quality as the main features themselves.
That’s a shame, I’ll probably try at least mocking it up but I wouldn’t want it there either if it doesn’t feel seamless.
A lot has changed since Star Wars Revisited was released 10 years ago. What is the plan for distribution?
It will be an 8gb(approx) 720p mkv file at first, most probably available through usenet and direct download links. Torrents will most likely crop up not long after. The 25GB bluray and DVD will follow later in the year once i have completed the special features, which i haven’t started yet because i have been concentrating on getting the edit out of the way first
why 25gb why not the full 50gb.
Because dual-layer discs are more expensive and not as readily available/accessible to most people. Also at 720p it’s not likely to make much of a difference in picture quality.
If the Kor Sella scene is reinserted, I do think we should keep the shots on Hosnian Prime, only to give that thread closure.
“Combat” sounds fine to me.
Here’s a new version with the lightsaber shot. 😃
https://vimeo.com/200702407
Password: music
I like this but has a Star Wars film ever completely cut out foley audio like this? Even the “musical montage” sequences usually have some sound effects, they’re just lowered in the mix.
Typo in the last paragraph, “discovered” is spelled incorrectly. Overall coloring looks really orange too, in a Phantom Menacey sort of way. Otherwise it looks good!
Weird probably impossible idea, could C-3PO replace both TC-14 and JarJar in the Phantom Menace?
3PO belongs to the trade federation and greets Qui-Gon and Obi on the ship in the beginning (re colored and redubbed with an Anthony Daniels soundalike or Daniels’ voice clips from cartoons/radio dramas etc.)
Then he somehow accidentally stumbles onto one of the federation drop ships and winds up on the surface, saved by Qui-Gon instead of JarJar (would have to rotoscope out JarJar frame by frame and composite in new footage of an actor in 3PO costume). He accompanies them from then on, and his meet cute with R2 is moved earlier to the scene when Padme is cleaning R2 (3PO again replacing JarJar)
Could lead to some fun exchanges:
Qui-Gon:
You almost got us killed! Are you brainless?
C-3PO:
I’ll have you know, I’m fluent in over six million forms of-
Qui-Gon:
The ability to speak doesn’t make you intelligent. Now get out of here.
Personally I think the shuttle looks great. A lot more convincing than the TIEs. It doesn’t look like an obvious cutout to me. I’d also like for the edit to keep the “Apocalypse Now” shot if possible…admittedly just because I think it’s a cool shot.
I’d be for a version without the recut if the music can still be changed and not repeated. I do agree that the ships seem to be very far out and then are right on top of Rey pretty quickly in this edit.
Things are moving forward! Here’s a new clip with all the good bits, from Rey leaving the castle and until her return.
Change list:
• Intercutting à la DominicCobb (new)
• Updated score without repeating parts (new)
• Better sound mix (new)
• “They’ve found us”
• No sunset TIEs
• My unnecessary wipe removed (new)
• Finn takes the lightsaber from Maz quicker
• “Those beasts” cut, “they’re here” left in
Wow! Well done!
Great work, that’s pretty close to seamless. The TIE sounds seem a little loud considering how far away they are but otherwise that clip is great.
So here’s my take on Finn’s line “They’ve done it”, redubbing it as “They’ve found us”, including animation on the mouth to make it bite together a bit on the “us” rather than the original open mouth “it”.
What do you think?
It’s noticeably an edit but it’s done pretty well. Not quite there but definitely a start.
I think adding Vader and Luke to Rey’s force vision could be quite cool if done right. I think that was their golden opportunity to actually have Luke and Vader in TFA… something to think about for your edit. Maybe something subtle like this:
An interesting idea for an edit but it feels out of scope for this one. Luke and Vader originally were in that scene and were cut to keep the focus on Rey and her experience.