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- #1105886
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- TFA: A Gentle Restructure (Released)
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Looking good! Can’t wait to see it with the color correction and timecode removal.
Looking good! Can’t wait to see it with the color correction and timecode removal.
I think some of the ANH:R graphics updates were a little excessive in the first place. They were made to make the film mesh more to the level of tech we see in the prequels, which aren’t part of Revisited anymore anyway. The new graphics and displays in ESB:R are a lot more subtle, and imo are better for it.
EDIT: as the Millennium Falcon is supposed to be an old hunk of junk, wouldn’t it make sense that the targeting displays are primitive looking?
As for the Death Star plans, why not have it start with the centered dish, then cycle through a few designs when R2 is plugged in, ending on the correct one.
Later, during the briefing, use the correct design but keep the slightly more primitive “look” of the graphics.
I feel like the ANH:R graphics were too pretty and clashed with the used universe aesthetic of the film. I wouldn’t mind graphics that are a bit more low-fi but still fixed the dish placement. It would be a shame to break continuity with Rogue One but the blue TIES and red bacta in ESB:R already kind of do.
I guess one big question we should ask Ady before making a bunch of radical suggestions is:
Do you intend for ROTJ:R to be like ANH:R and ESB:R, in that it’ll be the “Special Edition that should have been,” or do you intend to make more dramatic editing decisions this time around?
I mean, if you’re definitely not doing any major “fan edit-y” restructuring or anything, then suggesting the reinstatement of deleted scenes, moving Dagobah to pre-Tatooine, etc. are pointless suggestions. Not that saying you won’t be doing any of that will stop everyone from suggesting such things, but it’ll reign a good chunk of us in.
Of course, if you are planning more major changes this time around, I’ve gotta throw my hat in the ring for the Jerjerrod’s Conflict scenes to be reinstated.
Personally, I’d like to see something in between. I don’t want to see too much cutting of existing scenes because every scene is precious to some Star Wars fan. However, I wouldn’t mind some reshuffling, tweaking and adding additional content to improve some of the weak points.
If someone wanted to make a more severe cut of ROTJ they could easily use Revisited as a starting point.
Why do we keep talking about the Prowse documentary being a possibility? David Prowse is 82 years old. How would that be better then Shaw in any way?
Because we’re not using the prequel timeline?
The Prequel Trilogy is here to stay as a permanent part of the Star Wars canon whether you like them or not.
True, but Ady also doesn’t have to consider them canon, since these are his personal edits. Personally, I’d prefer he not add elements that blatantly contradict the other films though (moreso than already exist).
I prefer the pink engines for the X-Wings, but it’s worth pointing out that Rogue One also has light gray TIES and clear bacta, which ESB:R contradicts. This doesn’t personally bother me too much since you can headcanon suitable explanations. (TIES could be a later model, bacta could come in different colors or change color based on the lighting)
darth_ender said:
I was utterly disappointed when instead we got the stupid looking Venator-class.
You didn’t just insult my favorite ship design in the prequels.
Luke going back to Ben’s Hut to find journals Ben left for him is actually part of the “Disney canon” through the Marvel Star Wars comics, only it happens between ANH and ESB.
Woo! This and Revisited back to back? It’s truly a great time to be a Star Wars fan.
The Battle of Hoth was amazing and Cloud City looks gorgeous. Awesome work Ady. I was really impressed by how invisible and seamless most of the edits were, after a while I stopped looking for changes and just got sucked into the movie.
My only quibble is the Red Bacta since it contradicts Rogue One and Clone Wars but I’ll live with it (or make my own version).
I’ve made an alternate version of this that also includes Hal9000’s revised ending from his Labyrinth of Evil edit in which Padme survives, plugging an infamous plot hole.
The alternate ending includes the following changes:
-a scene of Yoda communicating with the departed Qui-Gon Jinn is restored using audio from The Clone Wars
-Faneditor Hal9000’s own voice replaces that of the medical droid. His prognosis is not that Padme is dying, but rather that she will survive without ever fully recovering.
-Replaced Vader’s scream with the Russian dub, arguably making it a little less cheesy.
-Courtesy of Hundsdorfex, replaced shot of Tantive IV descending toward Naboo with the ship streaking through space.
-Trimmed dialogue aboard the Tantive IV to accommodate the idea that Padmé survives to travel to Alderaan with Leia.
-Replaced Padme’s funeral with the deleted scene of Yoda arriving on Dagobah.
-Padme is seen cradling an infant Leia on Alderaan, using footage from The Other Boleyn Girl, with her eye color corrected by Hundsdorfex. (Idea by ‘The Cutter,’ also used in Q2’s edit.)
Octorox said:
-A Plot to Destroy the Jedi?I agree there is a repetitive aspect to this scene with the “situation room during Grievous meeting with Obi” scene, but there is also a more layered concern about Palpatine. This scene, placed after the - long - overture was very good to set the mood of an uprising coup d’état from Palpatine. I think you should have inserted it (but I assume you’ll do that for your “real” edit of Episode III).
Yeah, I like this scene too, but I felt that with the war room scene unedited, it didn’t really work, and since this is supposed to be purely an extended edition, I didn’t want to do that. It will probably be in my full fan edit of episode III.
Large blu-ray compatible mkvs of both Episode I and II now exist. Check the spleen or PM me for more info 😉
Interesting project for the ones who like the theatrical cut and only wish to get (good) extra material. Thanks !
What other edit are you going to do ?
I assume he was going to complete the trilogy of his conservative fanedits that are in essence combinations of other fanedits with some original cuts. His first two were very enjoyable so I hope so.
You are correct!
This is my favorite edit of ep1, but any chance for a higher bitrate release? Perhaps like a 18ish gb mkv that I could burn to a bd22 comfortably? I watch on a huge screen. Obviously don’t do it just for me, bit was curious if that was a possibility.
Funny you should mention this. Something like that should be coming very soon!
This is a V2 of my Extended Edition of Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith. The following scenes are reintegrated into the movie:
-A Stirring in the Senate (Bail’s Office)
-Seeds of Rebellion (Padme’s Apartment)
-Confronting the Chancellor (Palpatine’s Office)
-Yoda’s communion with Qui-Gon (using audio from the Clone Wars courtesy of Hal9000)
-Exiled to Dagobah
I didn’t want to reinsert any scenes that had unfinished effects or repeated dialogue that already appears in the film, so the following scenes are NOT included:
-Grevious Slaughters a Jedi: Escape from the General
-A Plot to Destroy the Jedi?
-any Blu-Ray deleted scenes
Here are the changes from V1:
-The deleted scene in Bail’s Office is moved up by one scene and features new “sunset” color correction to better blend with the surrounding scenes (courtesy of Hal9000)
-The deleted scene in Palpatine’s Office is moved until after Obi-Wan touches down on Utapau, allowing for a less jarring transition.
-There is only a single audio track in this version. Yoda’s communion with Qui-Gon is included but I kept the original Vader scream since this is an Extended Edition and not a fanfix.
-Yoda’s exile to Dagobah is moved up by one scene, before Padme’s funeral. This allows for the original ending and it’s music to play out uninterrupted. (transition courtesy of Siliconmaster482)
Incredible work
I absolutely love this. I agree that if there’s a way to keep the full music without the slow motion it would be preferable though
Kk650’s prequels were not as yellow as his OT to begin with. They look pretty consistent with his new OT regrades and his TFA regrade.
Anyway, this project is pretty cool.
Sir Ridley said:
x Remove Kylo calling Darth Vader “grandfather”I went back and forth on this one in my own edit for a long time. I ultimately left it in, but you’re convincing me that this may be a good cut.
Excited to see your vision, especially your desert Force vision 😃
I’m not sure why you would cut this personally.
Thanks for the response hairy_hen. I found a 97 mix synced to the GOUT that has the 70mm spliced in a few places to cover up SE changes. It’s not perfect but it does include most of the changes I’m looking for so I might just use that for now.
True, but even the Purist version has plenty of editing changes that would effect the sound, like the battle of Yavin being mostly re-edited. I think that would be very hard to GOUT sync.
Is this something that exists? I know purists will declare it heresy. I love hairy_hen’s recreation of the six track mix, but I just miss some of the mono changes like the tractor beam line and “open the blast doors”. It wouldn’t be faithful to the original theatrical experience, true, but It’s something I’d like to see nonetheless.
That makes a lot of sense. The jump cut is nothing to loose sleep over anyway. Out of curiosity, what source are you using for the sabers? The silver screen edition?