Obi-wonton

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Post: #57262
Topic: A Picture is worth a thousand words...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/57262/action/topic#57262
Time: 2-Aug-2004 8:14 AM

Jimbo, I have read 10 different interviews and articles about how Mark has been crapped on by Lucas, he didn't get to do a commentary on this box set on Lucas' darling and helpful writer Carrie Fisher. As for Dex, well if you like cartoony characters with their ass hanging out and obnoxious voices' cool than you probably do love Roger Rabbit, because that's what it is to me. The old ones looked more real with costumes, models, and puppets than most of this CGI crap, barring the new Yoda in ATOC most of it is crap, including the new Jabba in the box set. Jar-Jar's purpose??? To piss the world off. Damn, dude. That is not only the most annoying part of star wars but the most annoying character I have ever seen on a movie or TV screen, ever. You may disagree with me, but this is how I feel and I certainly am not alone.

Post: #57239
Topic: 2004 box set changes
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/57239/action/topic#57239
Time: 2-Aug-2004 5:33 AM

Damn, that'll be huge Luke...let me guess...

"Farenheit 9/21" by GQ magazine.

Michael Moore's controversial documentary has set hollywood ablaze with controversial pointedness at president Bush. There is another controversy raging concerning the greatest selling movie franchise of all time coming to DVD. The conflagration begins at Skywalker Ranch and ends in the home of John Q. Public. 9/21, The Original Trilogy Box set of Star Wars is slated for release. 27 years after Star Wars was released in theatres it will now be on DVD. Long awaited is a gross understatement. The OT box has set record for DVD sales with pre-orders and has not even hit the shelves yet. Controversy sells. And George Lucas is at the center of it. Devoted fans seem to be split over his continual changes to his classic trilogy. "Fanboys", as they are called at theforce.net website, tout his every move calling it sheer genius. But, there are others that do not see it that way. Fans of the most ardent nature have found a home at OriginalTrilogy.com where they have started a online petition to get their beloved Trilogy back in its theatrical form. Their forum's hottest topics is re-edits of Lucas' releases and ripping the Laserdisc release of 1995 to DVD-R.

Many changes have fueled the incindiary debate. For those that were disgusted by the1997 Special Edition, more changes seem to be in store for the new boxset release. One fan was quoted saying, "Greedo shoots first, not in my DVD player!" Greedo shooting first, a change that seemed to anger many fans softened the movie with overt political correctness in Lucas' Lunchbox Empire. A recent poll of over 40,000 people on the Game FAQs website had 57%, saying they will not purchase the set with nearly half of those, simply for all of the changes Lucas has committed to (along with the fact that there is no release of the originals).

Many fans have vowed to not buy this boxset, knowing of the changes. Some welcome them. But, many are still unaware. "What do you mean changes, the box set is labeled Star Wars Trilogy! It doesn't say Special Edition or Director's Cut...it is the same movies, right? I am buying the ones I saw as a kid, right?" The number of sales and the preception of deceipt has propelled more furvent debate over Lucas' changes. Lucas has vowed to never release his theatrical movie as they now have evolved into his "true vision". Ostracizing the fans that helped him build his "Empire" does not seem the wisest course, but this is a man that released the Phantom Menace after a 16 years hiatus. The fans, critics and the general public called it a failure and Jar-Jar Binks was their scapegoat.

Lucas may never fully grasp that his new trilogy while doing well at the box office is not as relevant as his originals. Some say he himself has succumb to the "dark side" of capitalism and banished what once seemed pure forever. The late 70's and early 80's seem forever intertwined with the Science Fiction Trilogy classic of Good vs. Evil. It defined a generation, became essential pop culture and spawned a billion dollar enterprise. "To have the original movies is to have a piece of my childhood back, like meeting an old friend or reading an old letter. Does he not understand what it means to us" A simple fan pleas.

Something like that maybe...just as a quick ramble of thoughts, a stream of conciousness if you will.

Post: #57231
Topic: Ideas: Re-edits for various movies
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/57231/action/topic#57231
Time: 2-Aug-2004 4:52 AM

Klingon, I assume you're talking about Dune. They are awesome books.

I saw The Village this weekend and it truly begs for a re-edit. While I, Robot, could have just used more depth and intelligence, essentially scenes that weren't filmed...the Village could've been much better if many of the explanatory scenes were held to the very end. You are spoon fed the "twist" from about 15 minutes into the movie and given the full deal 30 minutes before the end. I won't get into details b/c some may want to see it, but trust me if it was re-edited it would've been far more creepy.

As for movies that don't need editing and were flat out awesome...Manchurian Candidate and Bourne Supremacy. Two of the best, not only of the summer...ever. Both classic. And, yes, I see a lot of movies.

Post: #57225
Topic: A Picture is worth a thousand words...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/57225/action/topic#57225
Time: 2-Aug-2004 3:19 AM

Actually I have been a consultant for Luca$ at Skywalker Ranch. It was my idea to use Jar-Jar incessantly, have Greedo shoot first, Luke scream like a girl, his dad as a kid say whoopie, darth maul to die way to early, to have speeder scenes look retarded like when anakin leaves padme or dooku is being chase by obiwan and anakin, roger-roger robots, Dex, gungans, neimodiams, Nass, more jar-jar, Jabba's tail antics...all those were my ideas and thankfully Luca$ went with all of them. Jimbo and I have been been doing a lot of work on the 2007 Archival edition to make them full cartoons so we can make 7,8,9 in like hours, not pay real actors and have that continuity for all the future edits we do (and there's 100's more edits coming ) and each time we'll make a fortune and make it seem less and less like the original. I promise their will be better sounding noises and brighter looking sabers for those who are brainwashed and ignorant to go oooohh, aaaahhh and forget what the original even was. Sounds and colors people. Enjoy the cartoon saga I have created! Thanks for the chance to make my version Luca$! We'll be rich. And Mark Hamill pisses Luca$ off so we're replacing him with the farting boar from the Lion King, sure it'll be less dramatic and changes the love dynamic a bit, and changes the thing between him and his dad too...but it'll be hilarious and really that's all that matters.

Post: #57180
Topic: A Picture is worth a thousand words...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/57180/action/topic#57180
Time: 1-Aug-2004 4:30 PM

Actually he's inserting a CG version of Han Solo (for cartoony continuity) on the final cut, Greedo shoots himself for being in this crazy cartoon, Jar-Jar runs around saying PEEEEYOOOOOOOSAAAAA from the stink of greedo's body and lastly Roger Rabbit enters the screen and says," P-P-P-PLEEEEEEEEZZZZEEE Georgie get us out of this cartoon hell!" And the WB frog skips across with "hello my ragtime gallllllllll." and porky says,"bdddittt,bddittt, bddittt dtatsss all folks". Like thats all my patience for this circus that has become Star Wars.

Post: #57177
Topic: 2004 box set changes
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/57177/action/topic#57177
Time: 1-Aug-2004 3:43 PM

Luke I feel your pain and no, none of my bitterness has faded. I am strongly cynical to all things Luca$ but it did spawn this board and so many others and it is giving a pile of things to debate and discuss and I too am interested in every detail released. I might groan or be happy (mostly groans) but I am interested nonetheless. I still want the OT, trust me.

Post: #57139
Topic: A Picture is worth a thousand words...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/57139/action/topic#57139
Time: 1-Aug-2004 10:27 AM

Jar-Jar, Greedo shooting first, Han...its what you all remember right? This is the ORIGINAL TRILOGY AFTER ALL.

Post: #57136
Topic: Star Wars Episode III (spoilers) - a general discussion thread
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/57136/action/topic#57136
Time: 1-Aug-2004 10:10 AM

3 new Ep. III promo pics

Scenes from Ep. III - Birth of Vader

Scenes from The Anakin - Obi-Wan Duel

Post: #57134
Topic: 2004 box set changes
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/57134/action/topic#57134
Time: 1-Aug-2004 10:03 AM

OT dvd boxset threads have popped up on MF.com from those that have obtained advance copies, like Magnolia. Here is OT DVD thread with pictures and you'll like both the pics and the discussion on this one...OT DVD

Here's an ESB DVD thread ESB DVD

And here's stuff on the Ep III trailer on the DVD set darth vader's "birth"
Anakin vs. Obi-wan duel

Don't say I don't love you guys.

Post: #57128
Topic: Changes in 2004 DVDs
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/57128/action/topic#57128
Time: 1-Aug-2004 9:52 AM

This is a thread on the OT (loosely used) box set from a guy that a copy early (I guess like magnolia he posts a number of differences with pictures...

MF.com thread on OT box set

ESB DVD thread

Post: #57068
Topic: Here's a Hint of the Public's Reaction that the '04 DVDs would not be the OOT
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/57068/action/topic#57068
Time: 31-Jul-2004 8:10 PM

Hmm, how about this...

George Lucas listens to fans, not in my lifetime!

Post: #57065
Topic: Episode I-VI: Archival Editions
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/57065/action/topic#57065
Time: 31-Jul-2004 8:07 PM

Actually yes, I think that's the whole point. The companies may be working with Lucas for that reason. The present box set is now the biggest seller of all time and isn't even out yet and a HD version would get many people to go out and get this new machine. What pushed DVD really...not really home DVD units, VHS still would be strong...here's how...most people already had DVD players in their homes...PCs, PS2's, and X-box's right, that was huge in getting used to the technology and its proliferation, HD-DVD may be working on making new PC drives, next gen consoles and yes the best box set of all time for sales would be Ep. I - VI on HD-dvd for the 30th anniversary and yeah a lot of people would go get it. Promise.

Post: #57064
Topic: 2004 box set changes
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/57064/action/topic#57064
Time: 31-Jul-2004 7:59 PM

Yeah I used to love Michael Jackson too back in the day and uhhh Mike tyson was once considered, dare I say, better than Ali...not much of a discussion now (ass kicked yesterday).

Anyway, I agree Luke, Jabba still looks stupid, making the greedo scene "look better"...who cares, fix who shoots first damnit, and yeah the new emperor thing is dumb, I mean I dont mind if more of his eyes were covered to make him more ummm, phantomy or menacing or phantom-menacing, oh damn, I guess that stupid-ass title does make sense. Wait...No, no it doesn't I was just drifting.

Maybe Lucas is the Phantom Menace because he has perverted everything we love and give us ample Jar-jar and the attack of the clowns is Rick McCallum and crew that execute that crap.

Yeah I am bitter.

Post: #57061
Topic: Cringe Factor
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/57061/action/topic#57061
Time: 31-Jul-2004 7:53 PM

Bossk, that Scooby-Doo thing is killing me. Yeah and the Harlem Globetrotters, Don Knotts and Sonny and Cher back them up on this one. Damn. Phantom Menace, retarded.

And for Episode II, I am leaning towards "Send in the Clones" or "The Tears of a Clone" or "Quit Cloning Around" (ummm if it didn't strike you yet, insert clown for clone)

Post: #57056
Topic: Lost Original Trilogy footage... at blueharvest.net
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/57056/action/topic#57056
Time: 31-Jul-2004 7:40 PM

Not sure how they did that, may have ripped it as capture or pulled the video file of the disc.

Post: #57054
Topic: Ideas: Re-edits for various movies
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/57054/action/topic#57054
Time: 31-Jul-2004 7:38 PM

Yeah I agree with Matrix having too much bloat, but with more footage it'd be perfect to edit, with more options.

Kill Bill, hmm, now that you mention it I wholeheartedly agree, matter of fact. Tarrantino himself started out making one film...and it started running longer and longer. It does drag in parts and seems to deviate. Part II, was better than I. Both good though.

Sometime some of my beloved anime movies I want to edit out the silly voices or the "he-he-he", "whhhaaaaaaa" (like Moe from the simpsons, in anime it gets used ALOT) and "huh" with extreme faces, they add really silly elements to what can be dark and intelligent movies like Ghost in the Shell or Vampire Hunter D.

Post: #57053
Topic: MagnoliaFan Edition Episode III-VI Titles
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/57053/action/topic#57053
Time: 31-Jul-2004 7:32 PM

Yeah, most people would get flamed for changing the OT around, but there are some fine points that most would like to see. I was reading the latest SW insider and Mark Hamill said that he really wished his intro scene where he runs to the bar after watching the sky and seeing a war and gets up with Biggs was still in the movie. It'd be great if we could get polished up lost footage to at least have the option. Magnolia does amazing work and I've noticed so many small changes (some minute) that all add up to a better movie. If you've seen I and II which was a bad movie and decent movie made into a good movie and a great movie by Magnolia, then I am sure he will polish great movies into perfect ones. No joke, have faith, he's that good.

Post: #57052
Topic: Rikter is has left the building....
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/57052/action/topic#57052
Time: 31-Jul-2004 7:20 PM

Hey, Rik, I saw half my order is on the way and wanted to say thanks and I'll be sending you some goodies too. I just got back from 3 days at the beach with my girl at the beach myself. It was nice to unwind, I hear ya. Though, this is sad, I got in at 12 midnight, flipped on the computer and got on OT.com. I am not sure why I am so deeply compelled to this site, but you're a big reason, bro. Keep doing your thing we all love ya here.

Post: #56667
Topic: Re-edits
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/56667/action/topic#56667
Time: 29-Jul-2004 8:04 AM

The Director's cut is available on DVD or are you saying watch the deleted scenes. I loved that movie.

Post: #56666
Topic: 2004 box set changes
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/56666/action/topic#56666
Time: 29-Jul-2004 8:02 AM

To do plastic surgery you must be vain, wealthy, have a low self-esteem, have memories of how great you once were, continue to try and fix what is naturally going downhill...hmmm, you're right this is George Luca$! I do like the analogy Zombie. The worst part is a will be one of the first in line each time there is a new release, because I too am a fool for what was once so beautiful and I can't fall out of love, no matter how many times I get hurt. Lately my Star Wars love affair feels all too masochistic.

Post: #56664
Topic: Cringe Factor
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/56664/action/topic#56664
Time: 29-Jul-2004 7:57 AM

Yes I concur R2, it can make sense, but its just a silly title.

Post: #56660
Topic: Ideas: Re-edits for various movies
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/56660/action/topic#56660
Time: 29-Jul-2004 7:53 AM

I take that back there is a 2 disc UK version that is the Smithee version, remastered, 5.1 surround and widescreen format. Smithee Remastered

Post: #56656
Topic: Ideas: Re-edits for various movies
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/56656/action/topic#56656
Time: 29-Jul-2004 7:48 AM

Rikter you can get the 3hr version on DVD...

3 hr version

2disc release

The problem with the Smithee version is it is not edited well and is post pan-and-scan for TV. Though some scenes are interesting.

You know I did post three other films up there, any comments/sentiments on those selections.

Post: #56651
Topic: Episodes 7,8,9?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/56651/action/topic#56651
Time: 29-Jul-2004 7:37 AM

Hmm, that is interesting DJD...the GL speculation circus continues.

BTW, I really like Billy Dee Williams as Lester in the Ladies Man, now that's a funny movie.

Post: #56627
Topic: Episodes 7,8,9?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/56627/action/topic#56627
Time: 29-Jul-2004 4:51 AM

That's true I heard years ago about them supposedly starting on IJ-IV and there was even a script circulating about 3 years ago. It could be more fanboy stuff that we'll get 7,8,9 though GL started it so, hey, its worth asking.