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#58454
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star wars kid
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/58454/action/topic#58454
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This site has tons of stuff on it for the star wars kid.

Star Wars Kid Website with Remix Videos

And please should we feel sorry for a kid that wasn't popular before to get some popularity? He's probably at some college now using that line of..."This star Wars kid has became a Star Wars Man and come feel my Force, and you know I know how to wield a saber."

Well maybe he's getting girls. Maybe not, he definitely wasn't before. He's got an IPod now and that good. That'd makea great I POD commercial with the Star Wars Kid rocking out to techno doing the swordplay. Sweet.
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#58452
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Ideas: Re-edits for various movies
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/58452/action/topic#58452
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Did I say I was shocked that your friends wrote it off...hmm...OK I will let it go, but really every review of the movie or DVD is like this...

DocDVD.com -
"Brotherhood of the Wolf is one of those must see films that combines several genres into a final product that delivers in almost every fashion. The film is simply oozing with style and graze and never ceases to entertain."

DocDVD.com review
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#58451
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Ideas: Re-edits for various movies
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/58451/action/topic#58451
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Rikter, dang,bro...I got to disagree with your friends of Brotherhood. See it. Brotherhood of the Wolf, some of the action scenes in it are better than nearly any movie I've seen...honest. Most reviews called it a french version of the matrix and Crouching Tiger. Your friends may have seen it in the theatres as Le pacte de Loupes with english subtitles as did I. On DVD there is an English dub, not a great one but it's less distracting. While there is some fluff in it. I promise, they are some mind-blowing fight scenes in this movie, with things the matrix didn't even think to do. The "wolf" CG is not great (on par with Jar-Jar maybe) and is minorly distracting, but trust me Rik...download it and let me know what you think. Though there is a fight scene in the deleted scenes that is extended and truly spectacular.

My favorite movie review site is Rotten Tomatoes, where you get a snapshot of all major reviewers. Check here (73% of 107 reviews gave it positive ratings)

Brotherhood of the Wolf - Rotten Tomatoes

My favorite DVD review site is DVD Talk, they're reviews are so thorough going over audio, picture, commentaries, deleted scenes, etc.

American 2-disc DVD review

Here it is given, as a movie, 3.5/5 stars and 4 stars for video and audio

The opening paragraph:

"The Brotherhood Of the Wolf" is one of the most beautifully filmed, over-the-top, chaotic and fascinating films I've seen in quite some time. It is a horror film, it is a martial arts picture, it is a period piece, it is a mystery, it is many things and remarkably, the ambitious epic largely succeeds at any genre it touches. The film is reportedly based upon the real "Beast of Gevaudan", which terrorized the French countryside in the 1700's, but the film takes that tale and launches the story into something that, while not perfect, is delightfully ridiculous and wholly entertaining.

More:

The film's look, tone and atmosphere are also extraordinary. The fight sequences certainly are one of the aspects that benefit most from the film's extraordinary cinematography and editing. Superb trickery, such as variable motion, freeze frames and other aspects really give many scenes a very dynamic and visually rich appearance.

My argument for editing which they reiterate:

The film isn't without flaws, though: the 144-minute tale is clearly trying for an epic feel, but occasionally goes on a little too long for its own good, making for a few patches scattered throughout the movie where the pace drags somewhat. Small moments of the story could have also used either some filling out or clarification.

Lastly the Canadian release got the site's Highly Recommended title, which they give out on about 1/100 discs.
3-disc Canadian Release

I guess I am begging you Rikter to see it for yourself.
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#58363
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A Picture is worth a thousand words...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/58363/action/topic#58363
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You guys want a laugh watch the deleted scenes, play all with commentary. Its hilarious, every scene except the robot scene indentifying the Kamino dart (which I wish could replace the Dex scene with editing of voice)...anyway, every scene they say this really would've given a lot more to the plot or deepened the characters, but in the interest of time those become sceondary. I am thinking, what is this 10 minutes of scenes...plot and characters secondary. OK, Rick and George, but lifeless CGI and silly fart noises, and bright lights and loud explosions thats where its at. They aren't telling a story its mind-numbing crap for the bottom-rung of the ladder in our society (namely those that love Jar-Jar)
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#58362
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Hey R2- Holiday Special truely isn't dead...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/58362/action/topic#58362
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I just watched the first ewok movie the other day, and OMG, thats awful too. "Mace" that obnoxious boy and the coughing whining girl...damn it was bad (that awful little house on the prarie announcer and music). So which is worse in your mind...the Christmas special or the Ewok movies. I might lean to the ewok movies being worse as the holiday special was intended to be funny to some degree.
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#58355
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Bushido of Star Wars
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/58355/action/topic#58355
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I guess I am just really into Japanese culture. I love Seven Sumarai and things like that. Actually the theme of my wedding in March is Japanese with my cherry blossoms, a short katana to cut the cake, sushi, green tea, sake, etc. So I happen to think to of my favorite things being star wars and bushido (see Last Samurai if you have not) together is cool. Thought about many of these things, but never seen it all together.
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#58333
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Bushido of Star Wars
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/58333/action/topic#58333
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Hmm... I guess no one's clicked the link so...

The Bushido of Star Wars
The Star Wars epic has made inroads into Japanese culture much the same way it has ours -- but Luke, Darth Vader and Queen Amidala owe more to Japanese culture than they might realize
by Ridwan Khan

George Lucas' Star Wars, like epic material before it, borrows heavily from many sources. For example, many details in Star Wars, like the desert planet Tatooine and the spice trade, are obviously influenced by Frank Herbert's science fiction masterwork, Dune. Other aspects of Star Wars, like the idea of a farm boy fulfilling his dreams by journeying with experienced teachers, rogues, and pirates, according to Lucas himself, recall the earliest myths and folktales. However, there is another, often unrecognized source for many details in Star Wars. Japanese culture was a major influence on Lucas's films. The heated battles of graceful Jedi knights, the domed helmet of Darth Vader, and the ornate costumes of Princess Amidala, all owe a debt to Japanese culture. Indeed, Lucas borrowed heavily from elements of both classical and modern Japanese culture in creating Star Wars. In turn, Star Wars has become influential enough in Japan to factor into contemporary culture.

Japanese classical culture played an important part in the creation of the world of Star Wars. The most obvious inspiration for Lucas was the samurai. Japanese samurai (from the verb, saburau, to serve) were a warrior class who became "keepers of the peace" (Jansen 8). Inspired by the learned statesmen of China, samurai combined warrior (bushi) ethics with learning, culture, and statesmanship. In Japan's Confucian social stratum, the samurai were charged with keeping law and order. Lucas' Jedi played a similar role in his galaxy; Obi-Wan Kenobi describes the Jedi as knights that served as "the guardians and guarantors of peace and justice in the Old Republic" (The Star Wars Trilogy 69). Like the samurai, who follow a strict code of bushido, Jedi knights follow a strict warrior code; Luke and Anakin Skywalker are forced through difficult training.

Also like the Japanese samurai, the Jedi in Star Wars place importance on their weapon of choice, in their case the lightsaber. A lightsaber is

The formal weapon of a Jedi knight...more skill than simple sight [is] required for its use. An elegant weapon. It [is] a symbol as well. Anyone can use a blaster...but to use a lightsaber well [is] a mark of someone a cut above the ordinary (The Star Wars Trilogy 69).

Obviously lightsabers are samurai swords dressed up for a science fiction setting. Like the lightsabers, the katana and wakizashi (collectively daisho) were symbols; they represented the samurai in medieval Japan. In 1588, Shogun Hideyoshi banned anyone but registered samurai from owning swords, so the weapons became emblematic of the samurai class (Beasley 127). The Jedi's elegant sword battles, from Kenobi's battle with Darth Vader in A New Hope to Qui Gon Jin's battle with Darth Maul in The Phantom Menace are based heavily on the Japanese martial art of kendo, which involves using a wooden sword to fence with opponents. Like the Jedi, samurai put heavy emphasis on styles of swordsmanship.

Many costumes in the Star Wars universe also heavily recall Japanese clothing. Darth Vader's ominous black helmet is based on the kabuto helmets that samurai wore into battle. The brown or gray robes that Jedi, including Yoda, Obi-Wan Kenobi, Qui Gon Jin, and Mace Windu, wear suggest a monastic brotherhood similar to that of Buddhist temples. In The Phantom Menace, Queen Amidala wears ornate costumes that are based on Japanese kimonos, while her white make up and hair decorations come from the traditional dress and garb of the geisha. Additionally, the look of Darth Maul, the intimidating red and black Sithlord in The Phantom Menace, is based on the masks used in Japanese Noh drama, especially those of oni or Japanese demons. Qui Gon Jin, the master Jedi of The Phantom Menace, recalls the look of samurai in many ways; his facial hair is obviously influenced by Toshiro Mifune, who wore a similar beard for nearly all of his samurai movie roles. Like Kenobi in A New Hope, Jin wears brown robes and samurai style footwear.

In Star Wars, the concept of the Force also parallels concepts in Japanese culture. In Eastern philosophies, especially in the martial arts, ki (qi in the original Chinese) plays an important role. Best translated as spiritual or life energy, spirit or mind, ki is thought of as an energy arising from matter or life ("Qi"). In addition, the mastery of ki can, according to traditional Eastern beliefs, allow one to "transcend normal physical and biological processes" ("Qi") and "direct and mould matter" ("Qi"). Obi-Wan Kenobi describes the Force as "'an energy field generated by living things...The force surrounds each and everyone one of us...it [is] what [gives] the Jedi his special power'" (The Star Wars Trilogy 70). This special power includes a number of abilities that transcend normal physical and biological processes. In A New Hope, Obi-Wan is able to dissuade Storm Troopers from searching R2-D2 and C3PO using the Force. In The Empire Strikes Back, Yoda is able to levitate Luke's X-wing out of the bog and onto dry land through the Force. Before he does this, Yoda further explains the Force; "'life creates it and makes it grow...its energy surrounds us and binds us...feel the Force around you...everywhere...even between this land and that ship'" (The Star Wars Trilogy 282). Like ki, it comes from matter and living things and binds to people. Many people have noticed the similarities between the Force and ki and suggest "Lucas may have borrowed the concept" ("Qi").

The master of that spiritual energy, Obi-wan Kenobi, represents a familiar archetype in Japanese history. In A New Hope, Kenobi is a hermit, living in a cave. The exiled hermit is an especially strong archetype in Japanese literature and culture. For example, Japan's most famous swordsman, Musashi Miyamoto, retired to the Reigandou caves where he wrote his Book of Five Rings ("Musashi Miyamoto"). Japanese history has many political and religious figures who, like Kenobi and Yoda, are forced into exile after being defeated. The founder of the influential Nichiren sect of Buddhism was exiled at least twice ("Nichiren"). As mentioned above, Kenobi's brown robes seem very similar to robes worn by Buddhist monks, further strengthening the parallel. Like the Jedi, potential rivals to emperors and shoguns also met with banishment to far off islands.

George Lucas had many reasons for borrowing from Japanese history in creating Star Wars. Most epic material contains elements from pre-existing material in the same genre. Since nothing in Lucas' Star Wars universe already existed, using models from the real world and reworking them into a science fiction setting gave Lucas and his crew a basis to work from. Furthermore, using Eastern concepts and ideas helped Lucas further exaggerate the exotic, alien quality depicted in film. He could not have explored that exotic quality as far if he had based Star Wars upon medieval Europe, for example, as his audience was already familiar with material from that era. However, most of Lucas's audience had never heard of ki or daisho; their inclusion and reworking in Star Wars helped make Lucas's movies unlike anything his audience had ever seen before.

Modern Japanese culture was just as big an influence on Star Wars as classical culture was. Overwhelmingly, the modern influence came from the Japanese director Akira Kurosawa and one of his lead actors, Toshiro Mifune. For example, on a mechanical level, Star Wars was heavily influenced by Kurosawa's use of fades and wipes, which Lucas emulates in all his films. Lucas says of Kurosawa's films, "The first one I saw was Seven Samurai and after that I was co
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#58189
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Okay, I just have to get this off my chest!!!!
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/58189/action/topic#58189
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I thought the same thing about the grammar and spelling, which is why alluded to Jimbo's lack of either in my original post, but that post by "Joe_H" has a number of quotes from even 2-3 week old posts. Saving up posts, thinking them over, proofreading, spell checking it is possible. Most everything he quoted was not from the past couple of days actually.

Luke, I have read 100s of your posts I have never seen you antagonizing Jimbo, until he starts saying rediculous things that are inflammatory to the board and we all get angry. I believe in respecting other's views, but when those views violate 1. The notion/subject of the board and the reason the people come here 2. The respect of the board members with hateful and critical comments 3. Things that are said purely to press buttons with all of us... it's just not cool. Really. I can deal with someone correcting me on technical points (rikter, Hal, Klingon, etc. have done this and that's fine - I can be wrong). I can deal with differing viewpoints (many members debate here). But there is a line and Jimbo/Joe_H has crossed way over it.

Further there is some likemindedness in thought here about loving the OT and wanting it preserved. This likemindedness is the very root of our respect, almost all of us are here for the same reason. That is at the core of our posts, even if some views differ. Jimbo does not share these views TPM is the greatest movie of all time next to ATOC (perfectly titled as well). Why not post on sites that agree with this and are driven around the PT with people that saw the OT SE versions on VHS a couple years back once. This is not that site.

I am sure we'll get a post back from "Joe_H" in several days...give him time to prepare.

In the meantime...run the IP please.
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#58146
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Okay, I just have to get this off my chest!!!!
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/58146/action/topic#58146
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Joe_H and Jimbo share the same opinions. Joe_H loves everything about the new DVD's except he says this, "As for replacing Shaw with Hayden. I don't like it. It's half-ass work. I prefer the original." Weird, Jimbo's only contention is that point as well and he too loves everything else. This Joe_H read many posts over the last several weeks, all of which had Jimbo in heated debates (though I am sure its a long time lurker...new poster...right). Joe_H has made no comment on Jimbo's hate thread. Joe_H comes from out of nowhere right at the time people are clammoring for Jimbo's banning. There is a reason I suggested IP ban. What I am wondering now is what is Jimbo's IP address and what Joe_H's is. The blind love of Lucas is there for both and there opinions are indentical. I could debate that entire post and still might, but this is poignant and only someone such as Jimbo or at least much like Jimbo would open themselves on a board like this...

"But I've lurked around this forum and seen some blatant examples of ignorance and disrespect I've ever seen, no personal offense intended."

Are you kidding me, there DAMN sure is personal offense intended all through this." Ignorance and Disrespect by saying people are deviants, should be isolated, and treated with hate is Jimbo's feelings.Yes both Joe_H and Jimbo are ignorant and disrespectful (if you support these ideas). And if you 1. Have been lurking all this time with all these thoughts than you are coward for waiting until now and taking a whole thread to blast this entire board for there collective thoughts and conversations that you were not a part of (or were you?) 2. If you are Jimbo, damn, this is pathetic.

Ban away and run that IP. Please.

As far as Sifo_Dyas well I have not seen this at all from Luke, Jimbo will attack Luke with crappy comments often just antagonizing and playing devil's advocate with illogical arguments just to push buttons. Luke is a great contributor this board and posts helpful ideas, links, and by and large is a good friend to most everyone on this board. He contributes to nearly every thread with well thought out comments. More than I can say for Jimbo.

To quote me since you grabbed my out of context "Lucas listen to fans, not in my lifetime" (a parody of the Greedo line) well here's my post from another thread where Jimbo's hatefulness run's rampant.
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I don't need to sit down after a long day of work and fill my mind with stress, negativity and hate...I certainly can find that other places with little effort. This board is about the love of Star Wars and more specifically the understanding that we are losing something we love. I have made many friends here and it has transcended just Star Wars, though that was are starting point, for all of us. r2, galahad, windexed, mio, rikter, magnolia, luke, bossk, darth sheba, klingon, warbler, etc. These are names of good friends I converse with and share ideas with every day based on our common love of SW. This board is a source of enjoyment and it is here I believe I have found a home. That's cool to me.

All of this said, when I see someone ruining the place we hang out for friendship and worse still, singling out some of my friends with hateful comments; I will defend them.

Jimbo, I do believe it is time you got IP banned from this board. And maybe there is a place for you where people find pleasure out of hateful comments and harsh criticism. But its not here, not with me, and apparently not with most of my friends.
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Quotes from Jimbo:
"Go impragnate a women like the rest of us. The best part about kids is making them. I am not against adoption. Adoption is a very good thing. Not Gay adoption. For an innocent child to live with such discusting behavior is so wrong. Frankly id love for all children with Gay adopted parents to be taken away and put with normal familys. Husbund and Wife. The way nature and God want us to be."

"My opinion being gay is sick. Which is one of the biggest reasons I support Bush over Kerry. Bush cares about America. Frankly I don't want to live in an America where being a sick discusting deviant is considered normal. Like I said it is a steping stone to accepting even worse individuels like child molesters."
"If I had a gay teacher id do whatever I can to switch classes. I can't stand them and I can't stand any strait individuel who accepts them. My homophobic views are very popular in my school. Those who aren't homophobic are outcasts. Again gays should not be aloud to teach. That puts them around normal people. They should not be alowed in normal schools or any normal place where normal people live. Our society is getting sicker and sicker. As Al Bundy said "Its a tough world out there. Fat people getting mad if you call them cows. Foreign people getting made if you tell them to go home."

"If I am banned I can live. I feel that I must speak out anywhere I can about the wrong direction I believe the country I love is going."

OK lets talk about ignorant and disrespectful. The grammar and misspellings aside, the hatefulness is unacceptable on this board and has no place even if you ascribe to his ideals and think he is right, he has no right to put it out there in such an inflammatory manner. This is disrespectful to everyone here. Flat out.

As for the original post made above by "Joe_H" I could certainly discredit most of that, but I am not sure I want to play this game.

According to him...
" I'll post some quotes and rebuttals. Afterwards I'll leave in peace."

Well ok, thats what I want...peace. You shit on everyone here and have the gall to say that you'll post a few statements and leave in peace and go back to "lurking" right. Cowardice and truly misguided.

I am so tired of seeing what was a joyous experience being on this board getting ruined, its almost like watching TPM on continuous loop.

BTW, Joe_H, I am not leaving, at all, I am here, I was here before you and will be here after you...not lurking...but here...posting...and contributing things of a positive nature here.

Peace.
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#58077
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Here's a Hint of the Public's Reaction that the '04 DVDs would not be the OOT
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/58077/action/topic#58077
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Criterion would be perfect they would preserve and not pervert the classic. They would not add new scenes, not cut in new actors and voices, not add little cg creatures here and there...it would be the best picture and sound of the original (although I'd love to see a lost cut of the original on a second disc). At the very least I can see them doing a New Hope because it was so groundbreaking.
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#58074
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Star Wars Trilogy changes
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/58074/action/topic#58074
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Buddy-x-wing: yeah I hear that it tears me up to see the quality they are doing but how many scenes will look good but be messed up.

Luke: 1. Ignore or Ban Jimbo 2. Donnie Darko is out in theatres now, it already started in Seattle and now is in LA and NY, but no word on proliferation beyond that. I have seena date in october (4th?) for a region 2 DVD in the UK, but I have heard no word about a US release.

Spicoli: You're right, they may be adding some "glow" back in, honestly, I hope...really...otherwise I will take the old ones. Light sabers are the best part.
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#57985
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Star Wars Trilogy changes
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/57985/action/topic#57985
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Originally posted by: Pagz
If we all stay strong, how is one of us going to edit this sweet print back into the former glory of the OT for the benefit of all?


Exactly what I was thinking Pagz. Exactly...make it beautiful and sound great and hopefully those that shar our love and with more technical know-how will fix the rest. I am looking forward to "post-9/21" releases.