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#53902
Topic
Changes in 2004 DVDs
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/53902/action/topic#53902
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Originally posted by: Klingon_Jedi
Rick McCullum - "The essence of the storytelling had to be sacrificed due to the limits in technology". Bull, I'm sure the trilogy truly "suffered" lacking the redundant Jabba scene, the pointless Vader shuttle scene, and the goofy dance number.

McCallum said that? About the original trilogy for which he had absolutely no involvement?! What's his excuse for the prequels?

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#53683
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Info: OT Bootleg DVDs
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/53683/action/topic#53683
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Originally posted by: Patrick R.
I have a question about the Jedi Torrent and was wondering if anyone with it could check something for me? I have been downloading it and noticed that the Video_TS folder only has 10 files in it, but Hope and Empire's Video_TS folders each have 13 files in them. Does your Video_TS folder of Jedi have 13 files or 10?

Thanks.

Patrick

10 is correct for Jedi.

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#53614
Topic
Star Wars DVD Covers
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/53614/action/topic#53614
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Originally posted by: seventiesfilmnut
Howdy Scott!!

Interesting - I remember reading somewhere that the 1989 LD was the 70mm sound mix, but I can't remember where I read it. From what you say you're probably right though about it actually being the 35mm version. The 'Close the blast doors' line is not there, but the 'tractor beam is located...' line is there!

I do however have an article where it states that the 1995 faces edition LD (and the definitive collection) was remixed by Ben Burtt from the 70mm sound mix. It also states clearly that he added ina few sound effects. The whooshing of the asteroids, and the laserblast which explodes behind 3PO's head just before they get into the escape pod. Also the explosions of the cameras in the detention block scene has added sounds of glass being smashed. I think it was in the Topps Star Wars monthly from 1997... I'll have to take another look though.

I'm really excited by the prospect of the dual layer discs. Just think, we could have the original versions with three/four different sound tracks reflecting the changes between 35mm 70mm THX etc etc! "The Story of Star Wars" LP is also really useful in hearing different versions of lines and voices. Think this was taken from the mono versions of the film.

Yeah, the liner notes of the THX set say it was remastered by Ben Burtt and Gary Summers using the best of all three previous soundtracks. Perhaps the 70mm mix was used as the base for this. I'd be interested in hearing what that article says if you find it.

Another thing about the THX mix - after the Falcon enters the remains of Alderaan a TIE fighter gives two quick bursts and flies over the cockpit. A firing sound can be heard just before those two bursts on the THX version. This effect is only on the THX mix, the SE doesn't even have it.

Yes, the Story of Star Wars album was made using the mono mix and some differences can be heard in it. The close the blast doors line is in there for example. The mono mix is very different from what we've come to know, although the differences can be subtle. I'm lucky enough to have a tape of the original film in mono, sans 'A New Hope' no less. It's invaluable.

Scott



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#53602
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The Original Trilogy - Laser Disc Conversion Thread
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/53602/action/topic#53602
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Originally posted by: oojason
If someone is do dual layered DVD versions of the OT which LaserDiscs will be most likely used (or best to use) - the 1989, 1993 or 1995 (or other ?) releases.

The 1993 Definitive Collection laserdiscs and the 1995 THX laserdiscs use the same transfer. The difference is that the '93 discs are CAV and the '95 discs are CLV. CAV is typically better. So the general opinion is that the '93 set is the best to use for a DVD transfer. However, I would also like to see a transfer done from the '89 disc since it uses a different soundtrack.

Back to the SE subject, I actually have the 5 Star SE on dual layered DVD. The quality is excellent on my modest TV, but I tried it on a 50" plasma screen and it did not perform well.

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#53506
Topic
Star Wars DVD Covers
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/53506/action/topic#53506
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Originally posted by: Galahad_Skywalker
For anyone who's interested, I'm going to be starting work on the chapter inserts this weekend. I'll start by sitting down with the movies with the chapter display on and a pad of paper for writing down what seems to be a good title. Then, once I've done that, I may attempt the design element myself, unless is interested in helping. Right now, I'm planning on a format that will print off on one side of a page but will fold over to have a front-and-back design. If anyone has any ideas, I'm definitely open to them; just PM me or let me know in the forums themselves. We're really seeing a lot of really nice cover designs, and I feel that chapter inserts would enhance the overall appearance of our Star Wars Trilogy sets. Also, for the bonus disc, I was thinking of having a sort of menu map instead of a chapter listing (for obvious reasons). The menus aren't really complex, but it would be interesting to have.

My anamorphic set actually has inserts but I don't like them very much. One problem is that each disc has over 70 chapter stops. That's a lot of information to fit on there. I like the idea of a multi-fold booklet type insert similar to those with the LOTR DVDs.

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#53491
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Info: OT Bootleg DVDs
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/53491/action/topic#53491
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Patrick,

Thanks for the info! My primary interest in the ADVC-100, believe it or not, isn't converting Star Wars laserdiscs, but rather converting some old VHS tapes to DV. From what I've heard this is an excellent device for that. However, I would also like an easy to use PVR, and that's where the Hauppage comes in. I may just get both eventually.

digitalfreaknyc,

Are you making those available?
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#53472
Topic
Star Wars DVD Covers
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/53472/action/topic#53472
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Originally posted by: jimbo
I have an even better idea. Quit all this bootleging and buy the official DVDs.

The more time I spend on this forum the more I question your involvement here. You seem to care little to nothing about these classic films or the preservation thereof. And after all, that's what this site was created for.

Scott
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#53471
Topic
Star Wars DVD Covers
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/53471/action/topic#53471
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Originally posted by: seventiesfilmnut
I know the THX faces edition is (currently!) the best way to experience the non-SE trilogy, but even closer to the version we all would have seen at the cinema were the widescreen Fox LD releases in 1989. Fair enough there's loads of dirt and stuff on the print.. but in a way I kind of like that! This is how I remember it at the cinema - dust specs and all! Call me strange, but I'd rather have the dust and scratches but with a pin sharp picture, rather than the THX versions with so much digital dirt concealment that the image loses it's clarity, and you get that weird digital smearing effect on some fast moving objects - yuck!! Also the 1989 LD version has the original 70mm soundtracks (plus C3PO's line of dialogue which was missing from the THX versions). Star Wars on the faces edition LD's was totally remixed by Ben Burtt, with a few new sound effects added in that certainly weren't there when we all saw it in the cinema! The other two films were just cleaned up, but not remixed.

Hey John,

I don't believe the 1989 LD has the 70mm sound mix. I think it's just the 35mm Dolby Stereo mix. I believe the original 70mm sound mix did not have C-3PO's line nor did it have "Close the blast doors." The original mono mix has both and I believe the Dolby Stereo mix has 3PO's line but not the blast door line. Tell me, do you have the '89 LD, and if so, does it have "Close the blast doors?"

Also, there are those who believe, and I'm leaning that way myself, that the so called fourth sound mix done for the THX version is really the original 70mm 6-track mixed down to Dolby 2.0. This would explain different sound effects and missing lines. And if true, this would be the first and only time this sound mix has been available in a home format.

Scott

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#53353
Topic
Star Wars - The Edits and DVDr releases thread
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/53353/action/topic#53353
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Originally posted by: Mackey256
I grow tired of this discussion to be honest.

Well, at least we can agree on that. But I'm curious, do you believe it happened or do you believe it could have happened?

Rikter,

This thread is nothing. You should have seen the thread we had here last year where someone made some really outlandish claims about the first film. It went on for like 20 pages. It had some great stuff, but I think it got purged.


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#53351
Topic
Star Wars DVD Covers
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/53351/action/topic#53351
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Originally posted by: sweyland
Am I the only one who thinks the official ones are photoshopfugly?

No, your not. I don't care for the style of the prequel DVD covers either. And I am amazed and baffled by all of the people who are praising these covers because they match the prequel covers. I prefer my OT to look as little like the PT as possible, thank you very much.

I do, however, prefer the platinum over the gold.

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#53350
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Info: OT Bootleg DVDs
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/53350/action/topic#53350
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Originally posted by: Patrick R.
Thanks Obi-Wan Spicoli. I really hope torrents of From Star Wars to Jedi and The Making of Star Wars and Empire Strikes Back come out too.
I found a torrent for the extras disc. If you want it I'll PM you the link. The Making of Star Wars and SPFX: The Empire Strikes Back are available on laserdisc, which, of course, would make for an excellent conversion. There's also a Japanese laserdisc sourced collection known as Star Wars: The Making of a Trilogy which includes both titles above plus Classic Creatures: Return of the Jedi and From Star Wars to Jedi. But they have hard coded subtitles. This collection has already made the binary rounds but I have yet to see a torrent.

Originally posted by: Patrick R.
I'll stick to my Canopus ADVC-100 instead of the GeForce4 card I have. I like not having to worry about audio sync. The only bad thing about the Canopus is that it captures at 4:1:1 instead of 4:2:2 like the Targa can.

I've been considering a capture device for a while now. One choice is the ADVC-100. How do you like yours and do you recommend it? I'm also considering a Hauppage PVR-250. Any experience there?

Scott


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#53303
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Info: OT Bootleg DVDs
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/53303/action/topic#53303
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Originally posted by: Patrick R.
I have a couple of questions relating to the torrents. Where can the extras disc torrent be found and what is on there? Is The Making of Star Wars and Empire or From Star Wars to Jedi on there or is it just the same stuff that is on The Definitive Collection LD's? I only ask because I already own The Definitive Collection LD's and was hoping to find some other extras not found in that set. IMHO, the DC LD's are extremely light on extras considering they costed $250.00 when they came out.

I've seen a torrent for the fourth disc. I'll look around for it. It's the same stuff as is on the Definitive LDs.

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#53296
Topic
Star Wars - The Edits and DVDr releases thread
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/53296/action/topic#53296
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It was closer to 100 prints of Empire that went out with the different shots. All of them 70mm. And alternate footage is one thing, missing footage is something else altogether. I don't believe for one second that these shots were left out of any prints.

The fact is there is absolutely nothing to corroborate claims of missing eyes or mouse droids. I can't even find evidence of such claims being made. But I'm sure I've seen them somewhere.
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#53294
Topic
Changes in 2004 DVDs
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/53294/action/topic#53294
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Originally posted by: jimbo
Now we have six confirmed changes

1. Fixed Lightsabers - We can see this in the trailer. This is a change that really should have been made in 1997. Thank God its finally being made now.

This is most certainly not in the trailer.

And, BTW, absolutely nothing has been confirmed yet. Just because you see something at theforce.net does not mean it's confirmed. These changes are heavily rumored and perhaps likely, but not confirmed.

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#53239
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Star Wars - The Edits and DVDr releases thread
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/53239/action/topic#53239
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The different 70mm versions of ESB are another story altogether. These differences, however slight, are fact and well documented. If I recall correctly, there were some alternate angles and cuts in the bacta scene and different transitional effects during the scene with Luke on his tauntaun. I actually saw this version when the film opened at the Cooper in Denver. But I would never rely on my own memories alone.

So, you're saying that around 1983 an issue of "Bantha Tracks" (the old fan club newsletter) contained mention of the Chewie/mouse droid scene being missing from some early prints? That time frame would be somewhere around issue #20. I believe the old issues are archived for Hyperspace members. Perhaps someone with a membership could have a look around?
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#53197
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Star Wars - The Edits and DVDr releases thread
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/53197/action/topic#53197
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The idea of a select few number of prints missing these two very short scenes is just silly. There has never been any evidence whatsoever to validate such claims. I can't even remember were I've seen these claims, but I think they're fairly recent. And I can't find any information regarding them anywhere. This is just some silly rumor started by someone with a bad memory.

Tell me, do you also believe the Biggs scenes were shown?