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#90730
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Help Wanted: an MP3 of the 1.0 mono mix from the pre-ANH projects?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/90730/action/topic#90730
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Originally posted by: Neil S. Bulk
The site is correct. The easiest way to tell is the inclusion of the 3PO tractor beam line. It's not in the Dolby Stereo mix, prior to Burtt's first video mix. Suddenly it was back in the movie, only to be out again in the 1993 re-mix.

My transfer of the Dolby Stereo mix from the pan and scan CAV disc does not have the 3PO line. The 1985 mix (heard also on the 1989 LD) does have this line. If you download the "Mysterious Mysteries" version, you'll hear the line as well.

Neil

Neil, I don't think you understood. I know the line wasn't in the original Dolby Stereo mix. Only the mono mix had it. The site says the sound mix was remastered for the 1985 VHS release. However, C-3PO's tractor beam line can be heard in the 1984 VHS release.

Scott
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#90710
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Help Wanted: an MP3 of the 1.0 mono mix from the pre-ANH projects?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/90710/action/topic#90710
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That's a great site, but that bit of information is incorrect. What I've seen referred to as the '85 remix actually appears on the '84 VHS. Do you have the '84 VHS tape? If so, give it a listen.

But since you're looking for the straight Dolby Stereo mix, the '85 CAV LD that someone mentioned earlier may be the best choice. I don't have that disc myself so I can't verify the sound mix.

Scott
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#90696
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Help Wanted: an MP3 of the 1.0 mono mix from the pre-ANH projects?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/90696/action/topic#90696
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I've actually been meaning to create a WAV file of the mono mix from my pre-ANH bootleg tape. But I haven't yet found the motivation to dig my VCR out from the entertainment center.

Originally posted by: Molly
As for the 2.0 mix, for which the best source I am aware of is the 1984 Hi-Fi VHS - I'd be interested to know what that "better source" is. XD

Moll.
I believe the best source would be the '89 widescreen laserdisc. It features the same sound mix as the '84 VHS (original Dolby Stereo mix updated with C-3PO's tractor beam line.)

Originally posted by: Moth3r
I was under the impression that there was a version of the mono mix out there from a better source than mine? Anyway, for the couple of people that PMed me asking for an uncompressed file, I'll see if I can encode the wav with FLAC (lossless) and post to a.b.starwars in the next few days.

Actually, yours sounds pretty good, probably better than mine. But mine is also much older and wasn't taped off TV. Since your tape comes from the mid-eighties UK television broadcast I am wondering.. does it have the Episode IV subtitle?

Scott
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#59684
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Lucas's Explanations
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/59684/action/topic#59684
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Originally posted by: OB1-KNOB
Regarding the removal of the ESB "taste good" line - I don't know that I agree with the 35mm/70mm difference that Obi-Wan Spicoli gives. Is this an established fact, or a post-SE rumor? I saw ESB countless times when it came out, usually on a 70mm screen, sometimes on a 35mm, and I distinctly remember that line. Without it, the scene makes no sense as there's no explanation for R2's good fortune. Further, I remember when GL was working on the Special Editions reading an article which mentioned that Mark Hamill was recording new lines for the Special Edition of ESB. "lines" (plural) could only mean 1 - the scream, and 2 - the new "lucky to get out of there" line - which I never heard until I saw the SE. My speculation was that GL didn't want kids to be afraid that R2 could be eaten? It didn't make sense to me, but was all that I could come up with.

You asked for factual information and that's what I gave. No speculation, this is an established fact. I've done extensive research regarding the sound of Star Wars.

But if you won't take my word for it, fine. The "Story of" albums for ESB and ROTJ were made with the 70mm sound mixes. Listen to the album or cassette of ESB from 1980. You will hear Luke say "You're lucky to get out of there." And you will hear Han say "shelter up."
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#59555
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Lucas's Explanations
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/59555/action/topic#59555
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Originally posted by: OB1-KNOB
Why did he remove Luke's "You're lucky droids don't taste good" line?

Things like this are very easy to explain. This line was not actually removed or changed. If you would have seen ESB in 70mm in 1980 you would have heard Luke say "You're lucky to get out of there." But in the 35mm version he said "You're lucky you don't taste very good."

SW, ESB, and ROTJ were all originally released in both 35mm and 70mm. Many people don't know or realize that different sound mixes had to be created for both the Dolby 35mm and 6-track 70mm versions. By chance, or on purpose, these sound mixes contained many subtle differences.

We've become accustomed to the Dolby Stereo sound mix that has been in all of the home video versions. However, the special edition of ESB was created using the 6-track 70mm sound mix because it was easier to transfer to 5.1. So these differences just crept in.

Another example of this is when Han finds Luke on Hoth and starts to build the shelter. Han says "...until I can get the shelter built." But in the SE Han says "...until I can get the shelter up."

There are MANY differences like this in the sound, but I don't think GL should be blamed for doing something wrong in this case. Here he has actually given us sounds and dialogue that were missing for years.
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#58784
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Continuity Errors in the OT
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/58784/action/topic#58784
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Originally posted by: The Dark Lord
does anyone know about this mysterious "some guy" that's supposed to be in the cockpit behind chewie? in what movie and scene does that occur?

This sounds like what I posted on the first page. In ANH, right after the Falcon takes off from Mos Eisley, Ben can be seen walking out of the cockpit - after he had already strapped himself in at the chess table.


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#58044
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Star Wars Trilogy changes
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/58044/action/topic#58044
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These quality comparisons are not really fair to the original films or even the special editions. The OT and SE screen shots are undoubtedly sourced from bootlegs, while the 2004 screen grabs are coming from official DVDs. Now I have no doubt that the official DVDs will be unparalleled in terms of picture quality, but the bootlegs DVDs (or laserdiscs and VHS tapes for that matter) really don't look as bad as those screen shots would indicate.
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#56962
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Why didn't Anakin fade away when he died?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/56962/action/topic#56962
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Originally posted by: Klingon_Jedi
He did, It just wasn't shown. The Radio drama has the line, "I burn his armor, and with it the name of Darth Vader."

No, he didn't disappear. And conclusive evidence finally comes in the commentary on the upcoming ROTJ DVD. When talking about this scene Lucas says: "This little scene where he burns his father's body..."

Now why didn't he disappear? Simple, and this is just my opinion, he doesn't know how.