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#108290
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Requesting details on opening titles for recreation
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/108290/action/topic#108290
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Originally posted by: sledgeweb
For example, they use the Franklin Gothic fonts on the site you link to. However, if you look at the "g" in "Along time ago", you'll realize it isn't the right font. I've heard the crawl uses "NEWS GOTHIC BOLD", but I'm not sure. If that is true, then the site you link also has the crawl text wrong - which they indicate is Franklin Gothic.

Thanks,
Sledge

They have the wrong font on their example. The "A long time ago" font is, however, Franklin Gothic Book.

News Gothic Bold and Univers Light Ultra Condensed are used in the crawl. News Gothic Bold is used for the crawl body and episode number. Univers Light Ultra Condensed is used for the film title.
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#107758
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Anakin's Father...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/107758/action/topic#107758
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Dark One, I thought the exact same thing. Honestly, I don't see how anyone could draw a different conclusion. Sidious is responsible for Anakin's creation.

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Originally posted by: The Dark One
Here's a quote from another fan that I ran this by:
"in TPM when Jinn is recieving the results from Anakins Midichlorian count he is then amazed at the results telling Obi evrything about " NO Jedi has counts this high " soon afterwards when Obi ask " what does this mean ?" Jinn responds " I don't know " then turns to see Shmi standing in the doorway. Notice the music at THAT moment...... it is the SITH music. just for that brief moment."

Furthermore, remember in TPM Qui-Gon says, "It is possible he was conceived by the midichlorians." And so he was - through the manipulation of Darth Sidious. I must say this is very intriguing, and a lot better than the simple immaculate conception.

And if you'll notice, Palpatine/Sidious is also very fatherly towards Anakin, especially at the end - he is Anakin's father (from a certain point of view.) He even calls him "son."

Also, Palpatine kept mentioning destiny. I found it very interesting that Anakin actually fulfilled his destiny by becoming a Dark Lord of the Sith. He was created for this purpose.
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#107740
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Who thinks that George Lucas will release the OOT?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/107740/action/topic#107740
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Actually, it was marketed as "The original Star Wars Trilogy on video ...One last time." So that point is not only ridiculous but irrelevent. Besides, if they do release it again it will be on DVD, not video.

Anyway, I think there's still hope for the original films. In an article just after the DVD release, George Lucas said something that I've never seen anyone bring up, but it's very encouraging. The following is a quote from this article
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DB: You've said the last time you would issue the original versions was on VHS several years ago. But with VHS potentially becoming obsolete one day, will you release them on DVD?

GL: I don't know. I mean, when VHS becomes obsolete it will probably get released on DVD, I imagine. But I'm not going to spend the effort to restore them (to) what I consider to be the real film.
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#105553
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Info Wanted: Your favourite sound mix for A New Hope?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/105553/action/topic#105553
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Originally posted by: Moth3r
(I've not included the original theatrical 70mm 6-track mix , because it's unlikely to ever be heard again in its original form. Elements of this mix were used in the 1985 and 1993 remastered versions.)
I don't believe that any elements of the 70mm mix were used for home video until the THX mix. The 1985 remix is really just a slightly updated version of the original Dolby Stereo mix (the addition of C-3PO's tractor beam line from the mono mix for example).

As far as theatrical presentation went, nothing beat the 70mm 6-track back in the day. But for home video, I like the Dolby Stereo remix. Although, there are many elements in the mono mix that I like. It was the last mix to be finished so it was the most complete - it has the "blast doors" and "tractor beam" lines. But it's in mono, and it's never been released on home video anyway.

Originally posted by: THX
However, I'm not familiar with the differences between '85 & '93. What are they?

The '93 "THX" sound mix is a completely different mix. It was said to be an all-new mix incorporating the best elements of the original three. However, it has been theorized that the THX mix is really the original 70mm 6-track mix transfered to Dolby 2.0 Surround. I'm inclined to think that myself, but at the very least, a large portion of it was used.

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#105549
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SW fonts
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/105549/action/topic#105549
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Originally posted by: Trooperman
Thanks! Do you know if there is possibly a place where I could obtain these free of charge?

I have News Gothic Bold, PM me if you still need it. I wouldn't mind having Univers Light Ultra Condensed and Albertus MT if anyone has them. Another font that I'm looking for is Baucher Gothic URW T Alternates.

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#104888
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SW fonts
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/104888/action/topic#104888
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You're talking about this logo, right?

http://www.starwars.com/themovies/img/content/ep3.jpg

I believe "EPISODE III" is Trajan Bold. It looks like "REVENGE OF THE SITH" could be Albertus MT as you suggest. I can't find a large enough image to confirm that for sure, but I think that's correct.

I've also seen the same logo done using Trajan Bold for both. However, I don't know if those are official or just fan-made.
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#104616
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SW fonts
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/104616/action/topic#104616
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The actual fonts are News Gothic Bold and Univers Light Ultra Condensed. News Gothic Bold is used for the crawl and episode number. Univers Light Ultra Condensed is used for the film title.

And in case you're interested, ITC Franklin Gothic Demi Bold is used for the subtitles.
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#103496
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Info: Interesting Video Finds Alternate Return Of The Jedi Dialogue
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/103496/action/topic#103496
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Mark Hamill talks about playing a "small part in number IX as the Obi-Wan who hands Excalibur down to the new young hope" in the "Unathorized Star Wars Story." In fact, here's a sound clip.

Originally posted by: jaymanchu
Also, I was wondering if anyone else has every caught this. I remember as a kid watching Jedi and listening to my Jedi Record which tells the entire story of Jedi that durring the Sarlac Pit fight, when Han is rescuing Lando, Lando says "Wait, I thought you were blind" the version that I remember on my record and in the theater had Han saying "It's all right I can see a lot better" however when I first got the THX home videos Han says "It's allright, Trust Me". For years this line allways bugged me because I swore I heard him say "I can see a lot better" instead of "Trust Me". On the 2004 DVDs, they changed his line back to "I can see alot better". I check my videos to verify that the line was changed and I wasn't going crazy. SO, has anyone else caught this tiny difference? I've never heard any discussion on this changed line before.

First of all, the line was never changed. You just heard a completely different sound mix. There were always differences between the sound mixes for each Star Wars film. If you heard "I can see a lot better" at the theater, you saw it in 70mm. That line is also in the 1983 "Story of" album. This is also the sound mix that went into the Special Edition and 2004 DVD.

There's a thread here somewhere in which we list most of the differences between sound mixes.
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#100710
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Star Wars: Deleted Magic (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/100710/action/topic#100710
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Originally posted by: ocpmovie
The one I'm thinking of actually comes AFTER this clip ... Han actually starts to say "But I got a nice ..." So it would be like "Do you think I had a choice? But I got a nice ...."

The clip you speak of appears twice within the Sci-Fi Channel special "The Force Returns" which aired in Feb of 1997. But I'm not sure if it's the same source you're looking for as it seems to be slightly shorter than what you describe. There's no audio (the narrator is speaking) but Han would be saying, "Do you think I had a choice? But I got..." and it cuts away there.

Scott
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#91371
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The Theatrical Differences
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/91371/action/topic#91371
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It's rather difficult to photograph a television screen, but here's a blurry pic of the lower case "rebel" from my pre-ANH bootleg.

http://home.austin.rr.com/obiwanspicoli/rebel.JPG

Originally posted by: ChainsawAsh
- Aunt Beru has a different, younger-sounding person dubbing for Shelagh Fraser, whose real voice has never been heard in a Star Wars film to date
I've always thought the same person did the voice-over for both sound mixes. It sounds like the same person to me. I'd like to hear other opinions. Here is a wav comparison with the mono voice followed by the normal voice.
Originally posted by: ChainsawAsh
- The voice of the stormtrooper searching for the droids on Tatooine is different

To be more specific, there's a different line as well. The Stormtrooper who knocks on the door which R2 and 3PO are hiding behind says, "Alright, check that side of the street. It's secure. Move on to the next one." Instead of, "Alright, check this side of the street. The door's locked. Move on to the next one."

Regarding the 70mm version of TESB, in addition to the visual differences that Neil has mentioned, there are numerous audio differences as well. These differences can be heard in the Special Edition and the 2004 DVD, and many can also be heard on the original 1980 "Story of" album. The audio differences include (but are probably not limited to) the following:

-On Hoth, right after C-3PO tells R2 to "Switch off," R2 gives out a little 'blurp.'

-When Luke finally collapses in the snow, he lets out a grunt as he lands on his face. (Also in the 1980 "Story of" album)

-Han says "until I can get the shelter up" instead of "until I can get the shelter built." (Also in the 1980 "Story of" album)

-Luke says an additional "Ben... Dagobah..." just before Han says "and I thought they smelled bad on the outside." (Also in the 1980 "Story of" album)

-When C-3P0 tells Luke "It's so good to see you fully functional again," Luke replies "Thanks, Threepio." (Also in the 1980 "Story of" album)

-The line "Headquarters personnel report to Command Center" is repeated three times instead of two.

-The line "The first transport is away!" is said in a different voice altogether.

-When R2 is being loaded into Luke's X-Wing, C-3PO says the word "and" before saying "do take good care of yourself."

-Han's line "Transport, this is Solo. Better take off, I can't get to you. I'll get her out on the Falcon" is followed by, "Come on!"

-In the asteroid field, after C-3PO says "Oh, this is suicide." He says, "There's no where to go."

-Luke says "You're lucky to get out of there" instead of "You're lucky you don't taste very good." (Also in the 1980 "Story of" album)

-Yoda makes a frightened "Ehhhhh!" sound just before Luke says "Like we're being watched" and points his blaster at him. (Also in the 1980 "Story of" album)

-Yoda says the word "Run!" before "Yes. A Jedi's strength flows from the force." The following lines "But beware the dark side. Anger, fear, aggression. The dark side of the force are they. Easily they flow, quick to join you in a fight" are also much louder and clearer.

-In Cloud City, after C-3PO says "That sounds like an R2 unit in there. I wonder if it..." he says "Hello?" only once instead of twice.

-Before C-3PO gets shot, a different voice says "Who are you?"

-While C-3PO is on Chewie's back when they enter the carbon freezing chamber, the line "Now remember, Chewbacca, you have a responsibility to me, so don't do anything foolish" is louder and heard more clearly.

-During the duel, when Luke knocks Vader off of the platform, Vader lets out an "ooooh!" instead of an "aaargh!"

-Lando's line at the end, "Luke, we're ready for takeoff." is a different take. (Also in the 1980 "Story of" album)

That's all I can remember right now. There's likely to be more that I'm forgetting about or am not aware of.

The 70mm version of ROTJ has far less differences. The only one I can think of right now is Han saying, "It's alright, I can see a lot better" instead of "It's alright, trust me." This line is also in the original 1983 "Story of" album.

Scott
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#90896
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Help Wanted: an MP3 of the 1.0 mono mix from the pre-ANH projects?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/90896/action/topic#90896
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Originally posted by: ChainsawAsh
Sure you're not mistaking the 84 one for the 85 one? The packaging is the same.
Actually, you're not far off. It turns out my '86 VHS tape had somehow made its way into my '84 box. I was watching the wrong tape thinking it was the 1984 release. I should have known better. Sorry to cause confusion.

Originally posted by: Neil S. Bulk
But I really don't care about any mixes done after 1993 at this point. They are irrelevant to the nature of this board.

Neil

Well, I wouldn't go that far. Consider the Special Edition sound mixes for ESB and ROTJ. They relied on the original 70mm mixes and restored a lot of alternate material. I believe that's very significant, especially for ESB where the sound mix is vastly different.

Scott