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#256574
Topic
Leia's Role in the Rebellion
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/256574/action/topic#256574
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The logistics necessary to conduct an actual rebellion are not the same as those needed for a movie-serial homage rebellion.

It's pretty clear in the original Star Wars that the Rebels have a single base, the destruction of which would crush the rebellion. If we don't want to accept the Star Wars universe as movie-simplistic, we are free to deal with some EU stuff ... which is good and fine, but I can't comment on it.

But the one-base idea presented in Star Wars implies in the sequel that Echo Base on Hoth is also a singular and unique rebel location ... likely so, just as planets in the Star Wars universe consist entirely of single ecological environments.


It's ridiculously simplistic, but it's Star Wars.




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#256198
Topic
Opinion Poll on Go-Mer-Tonic
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/256198/action/topic#256198
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And the gay thread's seemingly final results are that 72.34 of responding members consider Go-Mer a troll. (42.8% of whom consider him a gay troll, and 12.02% of those are so convinced of his gay talents, they'd be willing to take a roll in the hay with him ... or whatever it is that trolls wallow in, guess that would be roll-in-the-muck).


Well, I personally would bid adieu to any community where more than 58% of people wanted me gone. Congratulations, Go-Mer - you are among the most stubborn and socially inept humans on the internet. Quite a feat!



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#256192
Topic
Leia's Role in the Rebellion
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/256192/action/topic#256192
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Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
When did Luke become no longer officially associated with the Rebellion?


I could be wrong, but I got the distinct impression that, as a full-fledged Jedi, he was more of a free agent. At the service of the Rebels, but not really part of their organization. Sort of how the Jedi of old were at the service of the Republic, but they were not members of the government.

But, it's just an impression I got. Maybe that black outfit was a rebel uniform that I just didn't recognize. Of course, if Luke was still part of the official Rebel personnel roster and he didn't get promoted to at least General - - I call Triple Shenanigans!

Yet, I never heard "General Skywalker" mentioned once in Return of the Jedi. I think Luke was freelancing.



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#256179
Topic
Leia's Role in the Rebellion
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/256179/action/topic#256179
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To be fair, Luke was no longer officially affiliated with the Rebellion. But why didn't Leia get a promotion? In fact, why was she not ranked at all? Was it her diplomatic status? Does the EU address the non-military nature of her rebel participation?

She certainly sacrified a lot during the Jabba mission to rescue Solo. There's a pretty big gap between her capture and her stoic, subdued appearance at Jabba's side in the slave gear that we in the audience know nothing about. Something must have happened between the giant slug and Slave Leia offscreen.







(And by "giant slug" I may or may not mean (all of) Jabba the Hut.)



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#256175
Topic
Leia's Role in the Rebellion
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/256175/action/topic#256175
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Originally posted by: Number20
He [Solo]was the most qualified for the operation, so he was made general.

Huh? That's exactly it - - generals DO NOT act as operatives on missions. They are not the ones in battle or infiltration situations, even if commanding others. As a matter of fact, Captain is the proper rank for a military officer in such a situation, perhaps a lieutenant. Anything above that would be a person overseeing operations from afar. The General rank for him and Lando and any other freaking person the fans happened to like was just about the gayest thing in a movie full of gay.


You're right about Leia though, and I see no problem with her continued high-ranking participation in the rebellion (though, at the rate they were going, I'm surprised they didn't make her an admiral).

The only problem I had regarding her was her unfathomable bad mood in Empire. I'm glad she cheered up by the time of Jedi. Maybe she was happy to see all her pals get such lavish promotions!



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#256172
Topic
The Merits of the Prequel Trilogy and the "Saga"
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/256172/action/topic#256172
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Ya know, Go-Mer, I frelling HATE The Empire Strikes Back. I think it is a terrible film.

And yet, I realize that among Star Wars fans and movie fans, I am in the minority. I gathered that information by personally hearing from dozens if not hundreds of such people, and reading about such opinions when published. And so I conceed that it's a great film that I happen not to like.


Why you can't do that with TPM seems astoundingly stubborn. Perhaps you are acquainted with a far different group of Star Wars and movie fans than I am, and in your experience find that most people love Episode One.

But if not (as I imagine to be the case), can't you be man enough about it to stop foisting your minority opinions as fact?

If we ever get around to discussing the details of Empire Strikes Back around here, you will find lots of points made by me supporting my dislike of it. But I will not be calling others "wrong" for their love of the film. And if others say that "X" element is great, I will say it's not for whatever reason ONLY ONCE. I will not repeat my minority stance over and over and over and over again, as if repetition were equal to persuasion.

It's not. It's equal to annoyance and nothing more.
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#256135
Topic
Leia's Role in the Rebellion
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/256135/action/topic#256135
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Originally posted by: ADigitalMan
Helping to destroy one of the galaxy's most notorious gangsters.

How does that help the rebellion?

If helping to destroy the Death Star didn't get Solo a single promotion (or rather got him officially ranked as the Captain he already was), how does helping to destroy a non-combatant - no matter how criminal - affect his rebel ranking?

Shenanigans!

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#256003
Topic
Leia's Role in the Rebellion
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/256003/action/topic#256003
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Having no idea what went on between Yavin IV and Hoth (I know nothing about any EU), I can't say that she was of no substantive use to the Rebellion (she proved herself a darn good shot with a blaster on the Death Star). I like that she might (also) have provided some nifty PR benefits via her patented hologram-communication style guaranteed to elicit sympathetic action.


Come to think of it, though, I have no idea whatsoever what could have possibly happened in the ranks of the retarded rebellion to have the likes of Han Solo and Lando Calrissian promoted to generals. Not lieutenants, mind you, not majors. Freaking Generals. What in the universe could have happened between ESB and RoTJ to have Han Solo promoted from captain to general?

So don't get me started on ladder-climbing within the heirarchy of the Rebel forces. It seems to make no sense whatsoever, except to appeal to prepubescent fanboys. For all I know, they kept Leia around for the pretty face alone (though I heard she begged to be taken to the planet full of white powdery stuff, and was pretty pissed off when it turned out to be snow).
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#255980
Topic
The Merits of the Prequel Trilogy and the "Saga"
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/255980/action/topic#255980
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Being one of the worst movies ever made didn't hurt it at the box office either. It had the name "Star Wars" on it. I'm talking about the response , not the admissions paid - - the verbal response from EVERYONE (but you, Go-Mer) I have EVER talked with about this.

Oh, and believe me, being one of the BIGGEST, most-die-hard Star Wars fans on the West Coast, I have talked to LOTS and LOTS of people about Star Wars.
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#255942
Topic
The Merits of the Prequel Trilogy and the "Saga"
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/255942/action/topic#255942
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Based on results, it was a mistake to include the bit about Midichlorians in the screenplay. Based on results, it was a mistake to include Jar-Jar Binks. Lucas' choices can be rationalized all day long, but things which were pretty much despised by the vast majority of Star Wars fans and casual audience members turn out to be, in essence, mistakes ... whether anyone wants to admit that or not.
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#255687
Topic
Anyone see ER last week (11-02-06)? RE: Padme's death
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/255687/action/topic#255687
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Her dying via the vapors was hardly the worst sin against her character in RotS. She simply became such an unbelieveable wimp in the whole movie, contrary to her character that was presented in the other two films. Gak, even her wooden affectations as the Queen had her evincing more spunk than she did in the entire final film.

The prequels' greatest flaw was failing to develop likeable characters on the order of Luke, Han and Leia. To then squander what little character they had developed in Padme was among the more egregious errors of Revenge of the Sith.


Bah.
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#255686
Topic
The Merits of the Prequel Trilogy and the "Saga"
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/255686/action/topic#255686
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Oooh, Gaffer ... I like that midi concept. It's artful, elegant, and restores the Force to what it was.


If I gave a damn about the prequels or considered anything in them a part of Star Wars in any way, this would be a good solution to the quandry so needlessly presented in TPM.


Of course, I could go around solving lots of things about the prequels. 17,000 solutions later, and I'd have some pretty good Star Wars backstory!
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#255639
Topic
Anyone see ER last week (11-02-06)? RE: Padme's death
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/255639/action/topic#255639
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Broken Heart Syndrome deaths usually occur in very elderly people, following the loss of a spouse.


It is rare, though I suppose not unheard of, for it to happen with younger, healthier people. It is, in fact, a loss of will to live that the body might be suceptible to, but moreso if the body is ailing already in some way.



I never heard of someone dying from Broken Heart Syndrome when a spouse turns to the dark side of the force ... so I still find Padme's death from No Will To Live among the most retarded things I've ever seen in a movie.


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#255410
Topic
The personal hygiene thread
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/255410/action/topic#255410
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Ah, a very lucid and informative response. Thanks.

And, hence, why I try to refrain from eating anything with my hands. They just come in contact with far too much, and now - gak! - parts of me that I thought might be safe for being, well, much cleaner at most points of the day than my hands have become are actually bacteriologically dangerous!

Well, I'm glad I wash my hands 95% of the restroom exit time, and will increase it to 100% forthwith.

Cause, yeah, there's popcorn and french fries and stuff that goes straight from hand-to-mouth. Eeeks.



Heheh, I have a rather obsessive friend who leaves what we call "French Fry Handles." He simply will not eat anything he has touched ... and so takes a bite from a french fry, and discards the piece that he has handled.


Hmmm, now he's starting to look not quite as crazy to me. (But only if he doesn't wash his hands after he pees ... which I seriously doubt)



And, of course, there's the good old human immune system - which, in most people, is quite robust.
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#255388
Topic
The personal hygiene thread
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/255388/action/topic#255388
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Tell me if you've heard this one ....


Two men are standing at a urinal and, when finished, one goes to wash his hands while the other turns directly to leave the restroom. Shocked, the man washing his hands calls out to the other fellow, "Ahem, you know, at Yale, they taught us to wash our hands after we pee."

"Is that so?" replied the other fellow, "Well, at Harvard, they taught us not to pee on our hands."


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I never quite understood the American (as far as I know) obsession with post-peeing hand-washing. Although it's fine to wash one's hands as often as is convenient, that's precisely because one's hands are the body parts most exposed to germs and dirt. As such, it's not my hands that should be washed after touching my dick, but my dick that should be washed after having been touched by my hands.


I love how guys will wash their hands post-peeing ... and then proceed to exit the restroom via turning the doorhandle that probably has the most germs and dirt of anything they will touch all day!


Still, I tend to wash my hands whenever I find myself in a restroom ... simply because the opportunity is there. Sometimes I don't though, and all shock at such an action is simply absurd. I'm a Harvard man.


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