Obi Jeewhyen

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Post: #244777
Topic: This guy will not be buying the DVDs
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/244777/action/topic#244777
Time: 15-Sep-2006 8:04 PM

Does he owe himself any measure of self-respect that might be gleaned from not childishly putting out technically substandard versions of highly-regarded films, after decades of touting his enterprise as being technically cutting-edge at all times?

Post: #244773
Topic: POLL: So Who Bought Them & Who Didn't? (the 2006 GOUT DVD release)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/244773/action/topic#244773
Time: 15-Sep-2006 7:48 PM

Can't respond to the poll, as there's no option for buying less than "them."

Star Wars only for me. 'Cause it's the one I love 80,000 times more than the others. I have laserdiscs of the OUT Empire and Jedi, and slightly better picture quality of those movies which I rarely ever watch is not worth finding more space for my ever-expanding, out-of-control DVD collection.

I might have even said the same about Star Wars if it were not for the (reproduction of?) the original crawl.

(and yeah, I've said this in 12 threads already)

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Post: #244684
Topic: First Impressions of the OOT ...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/244684/action/topic#244684
Time: 15-Sep-2006 2:47 PM

Yes, the layer switch is the worst I've seen.

(Except for discs that simply freeze at that point ... notorious on some titles, such as Monsters, Inc..)

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Post: #244459
Topic: First Impressions of the OOT ...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/244459/action/topic#244459
Time: 14-Sep-2006 9:56 PM

My first impression was that the movie (Star Wars) did not look as good as I'd have liked. I kinda got the impression it was better than the laserdiscs, but it didn't look that much better to me. My first impression was spent analyzing sharpness, detail, artifacts, ghosting, grain patterns, wobbling starfields, scratched up crap print contrasting with beautiful undamaged sections, and all sorts of visual minutia brought on by too much reading of posts on this board. Sheesh. I barely enjoyed the film at all.

I look forward to watching it again without all that over-analysis going on in my head.

It was also more pleasant than I anticipated to see shots and segments that were not corrupted by special edition uselessness.

It was more of a disappointment than I anticipated when the fog of my 1977 illusion was lifted with the first wave assaults of 80's revisionism that affected the audio mix.

I appreciate the reviews of Empire and Jedi ... but despite promises of better picture quality than my laserdiscs, I'm not going to buy the DVDs. For movies I might watch 3 more times in my life, I will suffer with the laserdiscs that have, to my knowlege, been played exactly once since purchase in the laserdisc era.

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Post: #244452
Topic: And on the 8th day, God created socks that wont stay up, mosquitos, Taco Bell, and Letterboxed DVD's. It was not good.
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/244452/action/topic#244452
Time: 14-Sep-2006 9:44 PM

OK, WTF?? Take the Political talk to the gulag where it belongs. If it remains here, please start using analogies - and refer to Bush as the "Emperor," and you can make up other Star Wars counterparts for Clinton, Monica, bin Laden, Cheney, Hillary, Valerie Plame, Joe Wilson, Scooter, Rove and whomever else you want to talk about in relation to Not-Star-Wars.

Post: #244433
Topic: And on the 8th day, God created socks that wont stay up, mosquitos, Taco Bell, and Letterboxed DVD's. It was not good.
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/244433/action/topic#244433
Time: 14-Sep-2006 8:17 PM

I found the O.P. clever, but the standards around here for acceptable appearance of a frelling 30-year-old film are astoundingly outrageous.

Yes, the O.T. should have been treated better. Lots of films deserve restoration that don't get it. The older the film, the more I can accept less than visual perfection. Perhaps when watching these DVDs, it's more conducive to your film enjoyment to focus less on what didn't happen (yet), and more on the age of the films (ancient) and their relative visual quality to every previous home release (improved).

But my admiration for the poetry of the O.P. remains.

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Post: #243894
Topic: The 1977 Crawl.
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/243894/action/topic#243894
Time: 13-Sep-2006 9:34 PM

Hmmm, if only they'd stayed audioistically faithful to the original as well, I could have enjoyed myself past the first 45 minutes. Oh, well ... 45 minutes of nostaglia ain't bad. But I am in the 80's as soon as they hit the Alderaan asteriod debris field. Le sigh.

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Post: #243892
Topic: The Other side of the 30th Anniversary
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/243892/action/topic#243892
Time: 13-Sep-2006 9:29 PM

Wow, did this sleeping-dog thread just get revived for the sake of that???

Post: #243876
Topic: This is all I wanted. I'm happy, no need for another OOT release EVER for me!
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/243876/action/topic#243876
Time: 13-Sep-2006 8:43 PM

Yeah, the words on either far end of the crawl do not appear to emerge from the bottom of the screen, as they are supposed to. Rather, they emerge from the sides of the screen, because the edges of the picture are eliminated to the degree that the words on either side of the text crawl are cut off until they "crawl" further up and recede into outer space.

Bah, and frelling bah!

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Post: #243868
Topic: SW.com: "First and ONLY TIme"
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/243868/action/topic#243868
Time: 13-Sep-2006 8:20 PM

The same line claims it's the "Original Theatrical Release" of Star Wars, and that is a lie. So why put any stock in the veracity of the second half of the untruthful statement?

Post: #243867
Topic: Am I turning to the darkside?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/243867/action/topic#243867
Time: 13-Sep-2006 8:18 PM

Pfft, I spent so much time analyzing the picture quality and picking apart the opening crawl for signs of fakery, checking the film grain constantly, wanting to do visual comparisons to my laserdiscs ... basically all the things instigated by posts on this message board ... that I barely enjoyed watching Star Wars at all.

I think I'm gonna wait a few weeks till all the nitpicking furor dies down, before I watch it again.

Post: #243865
Topic: This is all I wanted. I'm happy, no need for another OOT release EVER for me!
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/243865/action/topic#243865
Time: 13-Sep-2006 8:14 PM

Ya know, at this point I wouldn't mind having a 16x9 display with black bars on all four sides. It beats the frelling overscaninng on my 40" 4x3 TV that absofreakinglutely ruins the opening crawl that I've been looking forward to for decades. Bah.

With non-anamorphic letterboxing on a widescreen display, I could at least see 100% of the sides, and the crawl would appear properly. As things now stand, till money rolls in like rain, I'm reduced to watching my new DVD on my computer display, while my useless 40" TV screen sits blank in the background.

Grrr.

Post: #243863
Topic: This guy will not be buying the DVDs
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/243863/action/topic#243863
Time: 13-Sep-2006 8:08 PM

Heheh, a friend forwarded that to me the other day.

I agree with the guy to a point. Heheh, I even refused to buy Revenge of the Sith on DVD after buying every freaking other Star Wars anything ever released on VHS, Laserdisc or DVD up till then.

And I despise George Lucas no end. But I won't cut off my lightsaber to spite my face, or however the phrase should be transfigured.

A sort-of, quasi re-creation of 1977 Star Wars on DVD?!? Not exactly the precise time to stop being a Star Wars fan. Wait another week, ok?

As I posted in another thread some long time ago, my Star Wars fandom is not affected by anything George does or doesn't do. My love of the original trilogy, all the fun I had seeing each of the films in theaters when they came out, the fun I had playing with toys and building models with friends, the fun I had collecting some stuff here and there, the outrageous fun I had waiting in line for the Hollywood premiers of the O.T. films and the prequel films, and all the friends I've made thru Star Wars and shared Star Wars geekdom fun with .... George cannot put a dent in any of it.

And there are two tattoos on my body that proclaim it to the world: I am a Star Wars Fan till death take me.

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Post: #243777
Topic: First Impressions of the OOT ...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/243777/action/topic#243777
Time: 13-Sep-2006 5:28 PM

Originally posted by: AJ
I just thought I'd mention, on the DVD inserts it says , "The Original Theatrical Versions - On DVD for the first time ever!" No where on here does it say the last time ever.

But since the first part of that sentence is a blatent lie, why accept any potential truth of the second part?

(This is not the original theatrical release, of Star Wars at any rate.)

Post: #243622
Topic: First Impressions of the OOT ...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/243622/action/topic#243622
Time: 13-Sep-2006 11:36 AM

It almost sounds like a conspiracy theory to say they added film grain.

I don't know about the crawl specifically, but the entire film looked properly grainy .. that is - no more and no less grain than I am emminently familiar with from seeing this movie at the movies nearly a hundred times.

That said, it also looked like a fairly messed-up print ... with some scenes looking unacceptably damaged and others looking rather well. It was a very mixed bag ... but I'm marginallly satisfied with the image quality. Mostly because the color balance seems pretty accurate to film screenings of Star Wars.

I don't think the controvery over the fake or real opening crawl will ever be solved to my satisfaction. Certainly the words "Star Wars" remain visible long after the first two lines of text appear on the screen, and this seems to contradict the version seen in 'Empire of Dreams' (though I haven't yet done my own visual comparison).

I hardly matters to me ... because the audio track screams non-'77 in four places, and the experience of watching this disc does not seem like an original theatrical version ... because it's not. So whether the opening crawl is original or not is frankly moot.

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Post: #243499
Topic: 2006 OT DVD: Well today's the day...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/243499/action/topic#243499
Time: 12-Sep-2006 11:02 PM

Woot! Borders for only $20. Well worth the $6 over Circuit City prices for the convenience to me.

Ooooh, I get to watch it in a few hours.

Star Wars, Give Me Those Star Wars, Don't Let Those Star Wars .... End!!!!!

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Post: #243279
Topic: 2006 OT DVD: Well today's the day...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/243279/action/topic#243279
Time: 12-Sep-2006 4:57 PM

Wow, I'm actually getting excited to buy the DVD in about half an hour. I'm gonna pay absurdly high Borders prices so that I can get it on my lunch hour. Probably will save half the difference from the Circuit City price just in gas saved by not diverting to Circuit City on the way home from work, and the other half from the value of my time by not making that diversion.

Anyways, that's what I'm going to tell myself as I purchase the only DVD I have ever bought from Borders, which has the most jacked-up DVD prices I have ever frelling seen!

But I want it in my hot little hands, and I want it NOW.

Post: #243278
Topic: 2006 OT DVD: The Crawl on Star Wars
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/243278/action/topic#243278
Time: 12-Sep-2006 4:54 PM

I don't need any screen caps to confirm the angle change. It was one of the most obvious differences between the original crawl and all subsequent ones .... not to be snarky, but instantly noticeable to anyone who had seen Star Wars in '77 a bunch of times.

Post: #243253
Topic: 2006 OT DVD: Well today's the day...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/243253/action/topic#243253
Time: 12-Sep-2006 3:26 PM

No interest in LEGO

No interest in Empire or Jedi DVDs that are EXACTLY the same as my laserdiscs, still playable, and even a worse deal that I have to buy those SE's to get them. Bah.

Totally sold on Star Wars, which is different than my laserdiscs, and I'd buy the entire set of SE's plus Return of the GodAwful Sith just to get a version of Star Wars with the 1977 opening crawl.

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Post: #243030
Topic: 2006 OT DVD: The Crawl on Star Wars
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/243030/action/topic#243030
Time: 11-Sep-2006 8:34 PM

Ya know, if they bothered to matte it onto the original star field, re-jigger the text to match the '77 formatting, and got rid of the stupid subtitle and episode number ... i will be a happy camper for all the attention to detail. From what I've seen of the text color on screen shots, it looks far more like the '77 hue than the later crawl (from what I remember of 30 years ago - gak!)

I hope the music matches the way I remember it, but that is also - like the color - going to be subject to memory only ... with nothing on any home video format to compare it with.

In other words, I don't mind a re-creation of the crawl if they do a good job of it. The remainder of the movie is NOT 1977 original*, so I don't demand absolute authenticity in the crawl.

(*That is to say, not the 70mm stereo audio mix from '77, and I daresay the blaster hits are still altered from the original release.)

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Post: #243009
Topic: OUT Review
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/243009/action/topic#243009
Time: 11-Sep-2006 7:00 PM

Pfft, all I needed to know was that the image doesn't hurt your eyes with its poorness of quality ... and I am sold on ANY unaltered version of OT that has a 1977 opening crawl.

Post: #243008
Topic: Star Wars Limited Edition Screen Captures.
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/243008/action/topic#243008
Time: 11-Sep-2006 6:58 PM

And if he does release the OT in the box-set, but it's not OUT (meaning 1977 crawl), then I would rather watch the crappier-looking original over the pristine altered.

Everyone's entitled to their opinion, but there's barely 2 or 3 special edition changes that bug me as much as the change to the frelling title of the movie, and the timing of the music to the original crawl.

Post: #242946
Topic: The SW Novel - Alan Dean Foster
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/242946/action/topic#242946
Time: 11-Sep-2006 4:21 PM

Hmm, I was hoping to hear that George at least okay'd the novel before it was published ... because I'm very keen on the part where it's crystal clear that Obi-wan Kenobi is NOT LYING when he tells Luke that Darth Vader betrayed and murdered Luke's father, who was a good friend of Kenobi's.

It's been admitted that the whole Darth Vader as Luke's daddy plot was made-up after Star Wars, but I love something in print that puts the lie to all that "certain point of view" crap.

Post: #242944
Topic: Important Questions I need answered about original triliogy about to be released on DVD
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/242944/action/topic#242944
Time: 11-Sep-2006 4:15 PM

And "You're lucky you don't taste very good" was on 70mm prints (such as the one playing at the Egyptian Theater in Hollywood).

Post: #241874
Topic: Poll: Do You Think the OUT will be Released Again in '07?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/241874/action/topic#241874
Time: 6-Sep-2006 9:30 PM

I think there will be another OUT release sometime in the future, but not as early as '07. And if either Hi-Def format becomes popular, not on plain ol' DVD either.

Maybe I'm wrong. I'll take my chances with the big $20 outlay of hard-earned moola. (I'm only buying Star Wars, as it's the only one different in any respect from the laserdiscs I already own.)