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#207564
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The Official 2006 Discs Will Be No Better Than What We Have!
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Originally posted by: oojason
It's a little strange that the press release on the sw.com has changed 3 times (or is it more?) since it's first appearance on 4th May - with info disappearing/reappearing about the possible content/versions of this release.

Though, having said that, it's certainly got the fans talking... interesting publicity - or perhaps not everyone 'high up' in LFL knows what's going on?


More changes to come?


Perhaps they haven't gotten everything finalized yet for this release. So things may not yet be finalized. Or they are trying to minimize the griping and complaining done by some people.
I'm happy to hear that this could be a new clean-up and not simply a laserdisc dump. That would be better. Darth First was right about the last DVD set and is credible, so I do feel better.
Now if we could only get the alternate audio tracks....
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#207411
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The Official 2006 Discs Will Be No Better Than What We Have!
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Nothings wrong with the Dolby Surround 2.0 mix. It is a very well-done mix and sounds great.
Maybe I'm just giving a wishlist here, and not what I should realistically expect, but I would of liked a 5.1 track remastered from the 6 channel matrix mix. and the mono mix, with the audio differences. But once again, it was just my wishing, and maybe I should be happy with what we are getting. Sorry if I sounded too mad about it. I didn't mean to come across that way.
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#207409
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Help: looking for... The Laserdisk Commentary Tracks?
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If you just want the commentary, Rowman's Definitive Edition extras has just the parts of the movie with the Definitive Edition commentary. The commentary isn't very long, and is silent for most of the films anyway. But they do have some interesting things to say. Rowman's extras disc set is worth getting, because it has all the extras from the laserdiscs, and much more.

It was also included on the Dr Gonzo set, and cowclops v2. There may be some other sources, but those are the only ones I know of.
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#207400
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The Official 2006 Discs Will Be No Better Than What We Have!
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They have taken down the stuff about the DD 2.0 sound. Perhaps they are going to have some other sound mixes? Or a 5.1 track? Something like that would be great. I personally am a bit more into sound anyway.
I agree that a print taken from the master should be better than a laserdisc rip. Its just that some of the worst DVDs were hastly done laserdisc rips. It wasn't a good thing to hear when they refer to the O-OT release as a "bonus feature" for yet another packaging of the 2004 DVD's. And after the lousy job done on the 2004 DVDs, I for one am a bit worred that it will be another mess-up. But the good news is that if they don't do another Lowry-style remastering, and screw up the colors, yes, I think it will be better than what we have. Even if they just do a rip from the Definitive Edition/Faces master, it should be better than any of our current laserdisc transfers that we currently have. I just wonder if they couldn't of done better, given what we are talking about here. But also, they have already changed the statement on the website. I really hope that means they are going to treat this better than it first sounded like they were.
But it seems like this thread has decended into too much hostility. Lighten up people. Its not that big of a deal. I mean, what is the worst that can happen? Its not any better than what we already have? So what? Keep the fan-made transfers, or watch the laserdiscs. If it is better, good. We'll all be happy. Even if they don't have the alternate audio tracks, I'm sure it will be a matter of time before someone rips the offical DVDs, and put the Mono Track on it, or maybe even the PCM audio from the laserdisc/Cowclops set. Any way we go, we still win in the end.
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#207367
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The Official 2006 Discs Will Be No Better Than What We Have!
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Nobody said for certain that this was a laserdisc transfer. Its just that it makes more sense that way. We know about many of the masters they have done and some of the times they have remastered/cleaned up the print, and the comment made in the article was that this will be state of the art for '93. This is about the time they did the remastering for the Definitive Collection/Faces set, the last availabe O-OT release before the '97 SE. So the timing makes sense that they at least use this master. There may have been another remastering of the O-OT before the changes for the '97SE. It could be this master, which would not be laserdisc transfer, per-se, because there was no release for this one. But we don't know if this even exists. But other comments, and the presense of a Dolby Digital 2.0 track, and no alternate sound tracks (5.1 mastered from the 6 channel matrix, or a mono mix track) seems to indicate that this is being done on the cheap. I really hope we are wrong and this is the greatest ever. But I'm expecting the worse and hoping for the best.
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#207010
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ORIGINAL STAR WARS TRILOGY OUT 09/2006 BY LUCASFILM
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The only thing we know about quality of the upcoming release is some odd statements in that release, such as the statement that this release will be "State of the Art for 93, which is not state of the art for 2006." or something like that, as well as statements that the original movies are "bonus features" which implies they are going to be straight laserdisc transfers, and not anything new done to them.
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#207006
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Idea: A New Direction - Special Edition Preservation?
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Originally posted by: Gregatron

I'm hoping to get the three 1997 SE films with their trailers and the "making-of" docs as extras. Is there anything like that out there now?


There is. Dark Jedi did a transfer of the '97 SE laserdiscs onto DVD. It also has the making of documentary as a bonus disc, as well as a trailer for each film.
If you want more Making of Documentaries, get OCPMovie's Special Edition Hype disc. It has three TV documentaries on it. I think between those two, most of the '97 SE stuff is accounted for.
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#206828
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The Official 2006 Discs Will Be No Better Than What We Have!
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Originally posted by: Mr Bungle
Im happy as long as on the Star Wars DVD, I get Han shooting first, chest explosions and Wolfman, and on the Jedi DVD I get Sebastian Shaw,and its watchable on my TV, I dont believe with such a high profile release now of possibly what is the "holy grail" of DVD they are gonna just give people a laserdisc rip, as they would probably come under such critism from the media if they did.


And Lucas hasn't gotten lots of media criticism for his many changes and not having the O-OT on DVD up until now? The O-OT hasn't been the top of Lucas's priorities, so I could see him doing a quick and easy laserdisc rip in an effort to shut up those who want the O-OT and not really wanting to invest much. As mentioned before, this it has a Dolby 2.0 track, instead of a Dolby 5.1 track based on the 6-channel matrix mix. That would mean putting money into the release.
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#206822
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BEAUTIFUL WOMEN NEW RULES IN FIRST POST (NSFW) UPDATED RULES
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Originally posted by: HotRod
THE SUN

This for those outside of the UK...

This is what we get to see every morning in one of our national papers..The Sun

Page 3 birds...Lovely...and all natural!

Heres a little taster!!


Very nice. She is hot...
But aren't nudes forbidden on here?
Not that I'm complaining or anything, because I do like that picture...
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#206819
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The Official 2006 Discs Will Be No Better Than What We Have!
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The print they cleaned up at the lab recently was the '04 SSE DVDs. And they did all sorts of mistakes, such as Luke's lightsaber being the wrong color on the Falcon. The question I have is if the print is the Defenitive Collection/Faces master, or if it is the '97 SE prints before they did the changes. If its a '97 pre-SE print, it could be pretty good. If it is the DE/Faces, it won't be much better than what we have from Laserdisc.
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#206590
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The Future Of This Board
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Sure, we all discuss the preservations, but we also talk some about Star Wars in general, fan edits/preservations of many different films, as well as just general discussions about all sorts of things. We have also done two fundraisers. So I think we have become a bit of a community here, and so I don't think we'll just fade off and dissapear. I for one would be very dissapointed to hear that since the O-OT has been released on DVD, this site is shutting down.