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#1340840
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Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread
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idir_hh said:

RogueLeader said:

Idir, that video you shared regarding the score made me want to play around with some rescoring.

I wanted to play around with adding Chewie’s Theme from Solo to when Rey realizes he’s still alive. I also feel like this restore add a sense of relief for Rey, relief that she didn’t kill him.

I did three versions, back to back, and I didn’t remove the original score so you might still hear bits of it. Just a rough idea. Let me know if you guys like any or prefer a certain version.

https://streamable.com/njzz2h

Rescoring opens up so many opportunities, I’m digging the 2nd and 3rd version.

I think the third version bleeds too much into Threepio’s dialogue, but the second version really works for me.

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#1340684
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Hal 9000 said:

krausfadr said:

Anakin Starkiller said:

TBF, nobody has freaking arc in this film.

Poe’s arc… from hothead flyboy to responsible general.
Finn’s arc… from victim of the empire and all alone, to force sensitive leader who teams up with other victims to topple it.
Rey’s arc… from someone who is lost, drawn to darkness, and doesn’t know her place or have a family to someone who chooses good, has a family, and presumably becomes the leader of a new Jedi Order.

If that’s not an arc… I don’t know what an arc is then.

Maybe it’s just not the arc you would have written.

All of those arcs seem to have been addressed to my satisfaction in TFA and/or TLJ. At least one twice already.

Exactly. JJ had no idea what to do with his own characters.

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#1340376
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❕ <strong>Welcome to the OriginalTrilogy.com |</strong> Introduce yourself in here | <strong>Useful info within</strong> ❕
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Darth Madness said:

Hello. I will have something I’ve been working on ready to share this Monday. What would be the very best way to share it with anyone interested?

It depends on what it is. If it’s related to a fan project it would go in this forum:

https://originaltrilogy.com/discussion/Star-Wars-Fan-Edits-and-Other-Projects/id/9

You can make a thread for it there, and post a link as long as it isn’t a full fanedit. If it is a full edit, you can still make a thread but people will have to Private Message you for the link. Just check the FAQ if you’re unsure.

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#1339903
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Unusual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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Anakin Starkiller said:

You know what would make these films feel less OT derivative? Replacing much of OT music with PT music! It would make the Saga feel more unified. Maybe Palpatine’s Sith choir can recite a portion of Duel of the Fates. There could be a hint of Battle of the Heroes in the Death Star since they sorta mirror each other in a fire and water kinda way. Across the Stars could play when Ben and Rey kiss. Kamino’s theme as the camera passes the jar of Snokes (btw, why is that theme there when Palpatine sucks Ben and Rey’s lifeforce?). Of course these only apply to TRoS, but I’m sure there’s some you could use for the other two films. Oh, I know! I’m So Sorry could play as Rey refuses to take Kylo’s hand in TLJ. In fact, I think I’ll got put that together right now, see how it looks.

I know for a fact that last idea was mocked up by someone earlier, can’t remember who though. It did work wonderfully.

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#1339774
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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It’s an improvement, but damn that scene gets worse each time I see it. Every moment feels either subtly or explicitly wrong.

Why is Rey going to the homestead?
Why is BB-8 acting like it belongs to Rey instead of Poe?
Why is Rey riding down the sand like it’s a treasured childhood memory instead of a reminder of her painful past?
Why does Rey go down into the empty house at all if she goes back outside to bury the sabers?
Why does Rey bury the sabers?
Why does she activate her own saber and look at it? Does she just like admiring her own work that much?
Why does a woman suddenly appear in a place where ‘there has been nobody for so long’, and ask about Rey’s last name? Were the Lars family her friends? If so how would Rey’s Skywalker pronouncement mean anything to her?
Why do Luke and Leia appear to her in this moment and not Ben?
Why does Rey turn away from the old woman, who clearly wants to talk to someone, to go stare at the binary sunrise?

Sorry if this comes off like a CinemaSins rant, in most films a lot of this would be nitpicky, but here every moment oozes fanservice instead of in-character or even in-universe motivation and I really wish there was a way to replace this scene altogether. I mean, even the Binary Sunset copycat closer from ROTS felt more compelling than this.

I think at minimum Rey should leave the question of ‘Rey who’ unanswered, but Hal, something drastic needs to be done with the end of this movie.

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#1339759
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Dom's (Possibly) Useful TROS Edit (WIP)
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stevepaynter said:

DominicCobb said:

Death Star Duel/Ben and Leia:
https://vimeo.com/414119429

Changes

  • Swapped in the Force theme for Leia sensing Ben
  • Added Duel of the Fates
  • Cut out Finn’s last “REEEEEEYYY!”
  • Added a few frames using shots from the trailers
  • Drastically extended and re-scored Leia contacting Ben

As always keep in mind this is rough.

This is fantastic. The DotF theme fits so seamlessly with this fight scene I’m surprised it wasnt used in the cinematic release.

The Sideways video guy implied that it was originally intended for the film but removed because it was Prequel Music. Don’t know how accurate that is, but I would totally buy it.

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#1339697
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure (Released)
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If the New Republic were to survive, where are they during the events of TLJ and ROS? It’s a small bit of the plot but it’s still essential that it be somehow eliminated or rendered helpless. I don’t see a more effective way of doing that than just destroying it like TFA did. If there was some exposition explaining how it’s so compromised by First Order operatives that it’s functionally helpless to stop their invasion, it might actually undermine the Rebel victory even more.

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#1339497
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Episode IX: THE SHATTERED SWORD - DETAILED SUMMARY COMPLETE
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So now that this summary is complete (is fifty pages a summary?) I now have a chance to go back through and really hone the story.

First up: Kylo being the vessel for the Sith was actually a later addition to the plot, so the first act would really need to give more substantial Sith haunting. I imagine that Kylo will continue to grow in power as the hold of the Sith becomes stronger, to the point where he feels like he can stop a Star Destroyer falling out of the sky. Rey will need to grow in power in Act 1 as well to match Kylo.

Second: The more I think about it, the more I feel that giving Rey any backstory of importance is fundamentally at odds with what makes her character compelling. So Maz’s lightsaber story will need to be cut or substantially changed.

Thrid: The final act is, I will admit, a bit of a mess. In attempting to give every character a meaningful conclusion the story jumps around too much and Rey is almost forgotten. I will need to give more thought to streamlining the final battle.

Those are my first thoughts at a second draft anyway.

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#1339116
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Episode IX: THE SHATTERED SWORD - DETAILED SUMMARY COMPLETE
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This is it, the end. I hope it hasn’t been too long-winded. There has been one alteration: Denya, the Knight of the Twelve who had died, is now no longer dead but merely wounded. This means that Rey is not technically a Knight of the Twelve and so not a Jedi until the saber is remade. So, enjoy the rest of the story!

The Lady Luck lands near the destroyer, Lando and Chewie running down the exit ramp. Rey sees Chewie and can hardly believe her eyes. She races toward him and they collide in a pile of limbs and fur. Lando walks up to the pair from one side and Finn from the other. They shake hands, Finn introducing himself and Lando himself. Finn asks ‘Lando…the Rebellion General?’ Rey says ‘I thought you were a smuggler.’ Chewie throws his head back noncommittally. Lando laughs, saying that whatever they’ve heard about him is surely all a terrible lie. He looks at Rey, saying that they have some catching up to do.

A battle-scarred X-wing lands beside them, the canopy opening with a hiss. Poe leaps out and Finn disengages from the group to tackle the ace pilot. Poe says that it seems that Finn made captain while he was gone, pointing to the shiny armor. Finn seems to just now notice that it’s still on, and makes to remove it. Poe stops him, saying it looks good on him. Finn looks at him expectantly, Poe glances down. He says he has something he’s wanted to say to Finn for a long time, but he doesn’t know how it will go. Finn says he does too. ‘Yeah?’ Poe asks. ‘Yeah.’ Finn answers. What this information is they never discover since their mouths are suddenly otherwise occupied. Rose and Maz arrive, Rose supporting the young Technician with the wounded leg, and Rose spies the two. She starts to say how the galaxy is rising up against the remnants of the First Order but then sees how the two are otherwise engaged. The Tech asks if that’s Finn…THE Finn. Rose says that it is, and Finn started out just like him. She gives the Tech a meaningful look, and Maz whispers to the young man that he should run. Kalonia walks up to the group and together they head off to find a medical suite.

It begins to rain. All around the arena, people are celebrating and cheering and reuniting. Rey casts a line over the still steaming destroyer and climbs up to the bridge. Ben stands on the surface of the ship alone, drenched to the bone and looking out over the sea of people through the haze. She comes up to him and takes his hand. ‘It’s gone’ he says to her, through his tears. ‘The Sith are gone.’ He pulls her close and words fail them. Finally he speaks again. ‘I hope you don’t mind, I promised this ship to the pirates.’ Rey says she doesn’t mind at all, but says that scavengers will take it first.

Even as Kylo looks around, the machines of the Jawas are moving to the ship and unfastening sections of plating. He shrugs, saying that there are plenty more ships in the galaxy. Emerging out of a hatch some way back of Kylo R2 trundles toward them. Threepio emerges holding one of his own arms, shouting about R2 forgetting about him again.

Hux is escorted from the Temple complex, guarded by Rose and many Resistance troops. He shouts that he is still Supreme Leader and doesn’t deserve this kind of treatment when he sees Rey and Ben moving away from the Destroyer. He stares at Ben as if he’s seen a ghost as he’s unceremoniously dragged away.

Poe and Finn are discussing the battle under Poe’s X-wing. Finn asks about BB-8, saying that he and Connix must have a story to tell. Poe looks downcast, saying that BB-8 didn’t make it. Finn sits down heavily. A figure moves toward them out of the mist. It is Connix, battle-worn but unbeaten. The three of them stand together and Connix removes a string from around her neck. On the string is a simple data drive. She says it contains all of BB-8’s battle information. They thank her and she starts to move off. She turns and says that there might be something else on the drive that they may want to see.

A red BB unit sits immobile in the production bay. Poe inserts the data drive and the droid comes to life, lights flashing and audio channels testing. It focuses on Poe, dressed in Admiral finery, the iris of its mechanical eye opening wide. It explodes in a cascade of beeps and burbles, racing around Poe in a tight circle. It sees Finn, dressed in smart General attire with Luke’s green lightsaber at his belt, and does the same to him. The two comrades laugh and Poe says that they’d better hurry if they are going to make it to the ceremony.

The ancient temple lies in semi-ruin from Thrawn’s bombardment, but much of it still stands. Outside is the new flagship of the Republic, a vessel painted in bright colors and sporting the flags of many worlds. A Star Destroyer has landed beside it, heavily modified and covered with pirate insignia.

In the throne room the casket is lowered into the ground. The roof has been partially blown away, leaving the ancient structure open to the elements. Vines and flowers now grow between the flagstones and up the aged walls. The hall is filled with the members of the Resistance, Knights of the Twelve Systems, pirates, the Jawdi. Chewie lays a medal on top of the casket and covers it with an inscribed flagstone. The friends all gather around in a circle. Poe, Finn, Chewie, Rey, Rose, Maz, Threepio, R2, BB-8. They place their hands onto the flagstone one by one. Finally Ben places his hand upon the stone and the ceremony is complete.

The Jedi Temple remains, surrounded now by a large public park where the arena used to be. Gardens festoon the upper roofs of the temple and ships come and go from all corners of the galaxy.

Inside the Temple, a reconstructed ZE-7 shows a class of would-be Jedi the methods of Jedi dueling techniques with R2 providing helpful holographic instruction from Luke’s Jedi school. In the adjoining room, Threepio instructs other students on the history of the Jedi. He says that once the Jedi lived here in the temple but now they live as Jedi of old, as protectors of the planets throughout the galaxy. One student asks if it’s true that BB-8 became the first droid to be named a Jedi. Threepio says that indeed the little droid is now the official protector of Jakku. Another student laughs at the joke, but Threepio turns and says that nobody has contested this claim. Another student, one with a Resistance ring, asks where Rey is, if not Jakku. Threepio answers that she protects her home, of course.

Ben and Rey sit by the light of the dying fire, drowsing beside each other. Ben shakes himself, saying that he must get back to his ship. Rey asks if he really must and he replies that pirates can’t be trusted to not kill themselves. She tells him to liberate another world for her and he says he has a whole system in mind this time. They kiss goodbye with a ‘May the Force be with you’. He grins, replies ‘Always’. He leaps into his ship, the same rust bucket that they took from Gramelon, now modified to within an inch of its life. The ship rises through the trees and Rey takes off running. She leaps off a ledge and swings on a vine to a platform which takes her into the upper canopy. Racing along the branching paths above the ground she arrives at a large treehouse. Chewie emerges from inside, stretching and growling, followed by another Wookiee and two little ones. Rey hugs the furry beast and leaps onto the railing of the deck, igniting her saber as Ben’s ship flies off into Kashyyyk’s early morning sky. She gazes up to where the stars still shine as one takes off across the heavens and disappears into the endless sparkling sea.

FIN