NeverarGreat

Sorry about the late reply, Zig!

ziggyonice said:

NeverarGreat said:

Here’s a rough version of the new sequence I’m considering for the Hosnian Destruction. It’s closer to Restructured, but unlike that scene there’s actually too many shots to fit into the music duration.

Hey, I know it’s been awhile Nev, but I checked in just to see how the project has been coming along.

It’s going in fits and starts. The latest addition is a change to the end credits music to include Williams’ 2018 Han & Leia Theme, which I think musically evokes the story of Han & Leia’s relationship that we never got to see on-screen, and this transitions to the Kylo theme to give that story its necessary tragic end. It’s not a super necessary change, but I like it.

The clip you shared above back several weeks ago is really well done. I think that flows very nicely and is probably the best take so far at the Hosnian destruction.

Thanks! It’s still a work in progress. I’ve found that the Hosnian destruction is just so weak on its own that it only gains any power from the events surrounding it, so I’m considering how to continue the Oscillator scene around the destruction kind of like the Luke vision was intercut with R2 finding the map. We’ll see. 😃

For the pilot reactions, you might be able to use a shot of Poe from either TLJ or TROS. I know there’s a couple shots of him in TROS final battle that might match the emotional weight of the scene.

That’s a good idea. I assume he has a similar-enough costume for that to work?

hinventon said:

Has anybody heard this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KboCO09N7A4

I don’t know if there’s ever been a studio recording of this version but I love it and it would be a nice song to fill in some of the musical gaps, or even for TFA or TLJ

Lovely!

I’m hesitant to click music links these days because of the danger on hitting yet another Samuel Kim video, but this was a pleasant surprise.

I’m tempted to put this into my TFA edit as is.

To be fair, the problem goes beyond just Snoke. The whole ST (particularly TFA and TROS) seems to be made by people with no sense of object permanence, whose understanding of the previous story began and ended with the base objects present during the runtimes of episodes 4-6. The Emperor and the Death Star were just table-setting in the originals to show the overwhelming power of the dominant government in the universe, so they are here as well despite being the ostensible underdogs. You want thousands of Star Destroyers? The originals had that, so why not? Stormtroopers are soulless cannon fodder too, except that one of our main characters is a Stormtrooper. No problem making Rey related to a powerfully evil Force user, except that her nobody status is her one unique character trait. And on it goes. The ST has a toddler’s understanding of storytelling.

Anyway, if you want to make Snoke compelling you have to strip him of his Force powers. Make him a person who has power through his ability to project the air of a Force user and his emotional manipulation of Kylo Ren, otherwise he’s just another Palpatine.

The dog makes good points

If you’d said ESB I would have suggested watching Reign of Fire 😉

Sounds good!

(As I’m watching the news…that’s a fitting countdown).

The solution is simple - make The Last Crusade the first film chronologically, that way it is assumed that these characters grew between films. All that would need to be ignored is Indy’s mention of the Ark, and even that isn’t an absolute giveaway.

Almost sure that I got another ulcer last night.

But this morning is better.

Rodney-2187 said:

I wonder how fast Cobb Vanth’s bike is.

The fastest ever.

Elan Sleazebaggano, Coruscant’s premier dealer of Death Sticks.

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Entertainment/meet-ken-nightingall-mysterious-pink-shorts-boom-guy/story?id=64507354

Curse Covid.

Just watched that episode from Season 7. Top form.

Ed Slushie said:

NeverarGreat said:

Ed Slushie said:

Hal 9000 said:

Ed Slushie said:

Who was it that made an alternate opening shot for The Force Awakens where the “stars” turn out to be dust from Rey scavenging on the Star Destroyer? I have an edit idea that could really benefit from it, but I can’t find it anywhere.
I seem to remember it being on vimeo and having a really vague title like “fakeout” that made it hard to find by searching.

It happens so fast that I bet you could just cut from the opening crawl to the first motion frame of Rey pulling the thing away.
Dunno if he was the first, but I recall NeverArGreat doing that idea.

Just think of people seeing it opening night in IMAX 3D. Give people heart attacks, it would.

Found it, thanks!

If you want it in full quality, let me know and I will render it out!

Yeah, anything 1080p or higher would be much appreciated!

This is AVI 1080p, highest quality I have.

https://mega.nz/file/CY8mBTQS#zkKB_tGV7-w1vRTzGFcpHTb8m-UY_B_v5AVQUAjwrAI

It’s also been added on my TFA thread links. 😃

Ed Slushie said:

Hal 9000 said:

Ed Slushie said:

Who was it that made an alternate opening shot for The Force Awakens where the “stars” turn out to be dust from Rey scavenging on the Star Destroyer? I have an edit idea that could really benefit from it, but I can’t find it anywhere.
I seem to remember it being on vimeo and having a really vague title like “fakeout” that made it hard to find by searching.

It happens so fast that I bet you could just cut from the opening crawl to the first motion frame of Rey pulling the thing away.
Dunno if he was the first, but I recall NeverArGreat doing that idea.

Just think of people seeing it opening night in IMAX 3D. Give people heart attacks, it would.

Found it, thanks!

If you want it in full quality, let me know and I will render it out!

It’s so beautiful.

Rey learns that her family name is McSriff

^It’s you and me and the CDC!

Anakin Starkiller said:

Oh yeah, that’s by far the worst moment in the entire Saga.

What’s worse is when he lost it again. I hear it was quite a drag.

A classic.

And one from the aquarium, which the girlfriend insisted I get (The bottom says Roanoke Aquarium, not National).

Icecream2448 said:

Restructured
Legendary
Ascendant

tfa should get a proper title to match the last two…

TFA: Exalted
TFA: Mythic
TFA: Fabled

Similar to Hal’s:

TPM: A janitor presses a single easily accessible button in the generator room, which turns off the energy slicers. He walks down the hallway, scrubbing the floor with a bucket and a mop.

AOTC: A clone trooper approaches a small figure in the empty arena. “Hey kid, this is an active war zone. Come with me to the nearest…” The child turns and the trooper freezes, then speaks into his commlink. “Command, I have a five-year-old escapee from Kamino.” The child sighs. “Actually, we’re the same age.”

ROTS: Vader stares out at the Death Star construction. Finally he turns to an officer. “Gosh, I feel terrible for missing Padme’s funeral on Naboo. This must be how Clieg felt when my mother died. You know, I should really pay him a visit sometime. Life is so short, you never know when it will be too late. He and I actually have a lot in common now.” He looks down at his robot body. “On second thoughts, maybe I should just send him a card.”

ANH: Dodonna steps up after Luke and Han get their medals. “Okay, let’s pack this stuff up. The Empire is practically here and this ceremony ate into our time a bit more than I would like.”

ESB: Yoda and Obi’s ghost are sitting in his hut. “So how have you been, master?” Yoda putters. “Know, you do. Waiting, I was. Twenty years, I did. You?” Obi-wan nods. “Yeah, waiting.” Yoda sighs. “When did we give up on our dreams?”

ROTJ: The celebrations on Tatooine continue well into the night. A convoy of speeders filled with droids drives down main street waving CIS flags. “THE CONFEDERACY WILL RISE AGAIN!” A battle droid shouts, firing a blaster into the air. The cantina owner grimaces at the spectacle.

TFA: “Do you mind?” Luke asks. “I was just about to…” He gestures to the cliff. “Oh right.” Rey says, embarrassed and dropping the saber back to her side. “Maybe come back in a minute?” Rey nods, turning to go. “I’ll be back in a bit.” She looks around. “Looks like the sun’s coming out.”

TLJ: The Commission on Galactic Accountability denounces Hyperspace Ramming as a War Crime and labels the Resistance a Terrorist Organization.

TROS: The woman on Tatooine makes a mental note where Rey buried the lightsabers, returning later with a shovel.

That’s a clever idea!

My ideal version would be a 3 in 1, more heavy on cuts than most versions to focus on a single important event for each act - The Riddle Game, Bilbo vs Smaug, and the Arkenstone dilemma. Rivendell would be cut entirely, for example, in order to give more time to the elves which have a real effect on the plot.

StarkillerAG said:

NeverarGreat said:

I think 8 posited the best explanation we’re likely to get - her strength in the Force arose as a reaction to Kylo’s Dark Side. Sure, she said that something has ‘always been there’, but any bloodline explanation compounds the coincidence of living next to the Map to Luke and the Millennium Falcon and finding BB-8. Her being a true nobody was the only way that wasn’t entirely laughable on its face.

But coincidences like that have happened in Star Wars before. Remember when Darth Vader captured Darth Vader’s daughter, who sent Darth Vader’s robots on a mission to find Darth Vader’s master, and those robots ended up running into Darth Vader’s son along the way? All without anyone realizing those connections?

Star Wars thrives on coincidences, so I don’t think you should rag on the sequels for it.

The difference is that it’s not purely coincidence that Vader’s master was the person Leia was searching for to stop…Vader and the Empire. It also isn’t a stretch that Vader’s master wanted to be in close proximity to Vader’s son. These things are connected in a way that isn’t mere coincidence.

The daughter and droids coincidence was made by later films, which kinda proves my point.

I think 8 posited the best explanation we’re likely to get - her strength in the Force arose as a reaction to Kylo’s Dark Side. Sure, she said that something has ‘always been there’, but any bloodline explanation compounds the coincidence of living next to the Map to Luke and the Millennium Falcon and finding BB-8. Her being a true nobody was the only way that wasn’t entirely laughable on its face.

Just finished watching this, very nice indeed! I didn’t even notice most of the cuts and restructuring.

Obviously the Mudhorn is a sticking point, but I don’t see a good way out of that, but I had a couple of notes for the forest planet Sorgan in case you ever felt like revisiting this project:

• Move fighter attack on Mando to just before he goes to Sorgan

• Cut AT-ST plot point and extended battle, instead just show a brief battle on the raider building which ends with the explosive.

• Have Mando receive transmission telling of final mission before he lifts off from Sorgan to prevent the quick trip back. This may take some creative editing to make it seem like he’s still on the ground.

Anyway, great job all around!