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#1432866
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The <strong>Original Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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The movie also takes pains to show how Luke feels constrained by his life on the farm, so showing him in his element from the get-go would probably send the wrong message about his arc. I also like how his piloting ability is talked about but never seen until the end of the film - it’s a promise that gets a resounding payoff.

Basically, I think Luke’s piloting ability does tell, it’s just delayed for dramatic effect.

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#1432700
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The Force Awakens: Starlight (V1.1 Released!)
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Watching through this edit, I realized that we don’t get Ben’s name until his confrontation with Han. I thought I had just cut a line somewhere, but no, that’s actually how it is in the theatrical as well. Even odder, Rey and Finn only arrive in the scene after he says it, so they don’t learn his name onscreen in this film. Rey has to learn his name from Luke in TLJ, as far as we know. We’re not even sure if she suspects Ben’s relationship with Han until their confrontation at the end of the film, which is odd since she’s one of our POV characters and we know this information less than halfway through the film in the Theatrical version.

Maybe keeping Ben’s name a secret for so long was to drag out the mystery of his full identity, but we know basically everything about him before that so there seems little reason for it.

All this to say, I thought it would be interesting to work in Ben’s name earlier in the film. It would be fairly easy to put this info during Rey’s force vision by having audio of Luke’s “Ben, no!” when he is killing in the rain. That way Rey and the audience learn his name at the same time, and it’s close to the confirmation of his familial origin.

What would be even better would be to have Rey use this information during her interrogation to rattle Ben instead of talking about how he fears not being as strong as Vader, which isn’t really supported by the rest of the sequels. I tried making her final line ‘You’re afraid…that you will never be [] strong as Ben Solo!’, but it is an odd sentence structure that loses its original impact. The ideal line would have been ‘You’re afraid…that you will never be more than Ben Solo!’, but of course that would have to be frankenstitched to death.

Ah well.

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#1432190
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The Force Awakens: Starlight (V1.1 Released!)
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Truly. I considered keeping it, since I’m sure the audience would like to know what the hell is going on in that mysterious masked head. 😛

JEDIT: Speaking of that moment, in the previous versions I had the sounds of child Ben running, but like the aforementioned line I felt it was too on-the-nose and with the vehicle flythrough footage I figured that was more than enough to get the point across. But someone has told me they prefer the child sounds, so what does everyone think, yay or neigh?

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#1432143
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The Force Awakens: Starlight (V1.1 Released!)
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Since I don’t have a finished V1 for Star Wars Day, I decided to release another workprint (v105) which has all of the latest changes. It’s now in the folder with the rest, so if you have the link to any workprint you have them all.

The only changes still outstanding at this time are:

-The two Restructured changes foreshadowing Palpatine in TROS
-Tweaking the Starkiller firing shot from Finn and Rey’s POV
-Removing the casual Resistance officer from Leia’s mourning
-Adding brief Sith Eyes to Rey in her battle with Kylo

Also, keep in mind that everything past the Starkiller destruction will be reverted to Restructured for the Starlight Standard version, in order that this edit can be watched alongside the sequels with no continuity issues. The unfinished Luke vision is still in the workprint however, so just ignore that when giving feedback 😉 . The extended Starkiller Destruction and Luke Vision ending will be saved for another version of this edit to be released at some point in the future, which I’ve described in the first post of the thread.

I think that’s it. Happy 25th everyone!

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#1432078
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The Force Awakens: Starlight (V1.1 Released!)
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I believe so. It is originally used in Ben and Han’s confrontation in TFA, which is why I used it here as sort of a leitmotif.

Semi-relatedly, I realized after creating the effect of Kylo watching the shield going down that it could serve as a bit of a metaphor for his emotional state at this point. It’s a bit of a reach, but it works for me 😉

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#1432017
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The Force Awakens: Starlight (V1.1 Released!)
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There is color correction to every shot, but maybe not enough in some places.

Hal 9000 said:

NeverarGreat said:
Though you might want to avoid watching this edit when it’s done unless you are resigned to port more changes to Restructured 😉

I take this warning seriously.

Ha!

stevepaynter said:

So with everything you’ve learnt with that deleted scene in removing timestamps do you think you will ever tackle the Finn and Phasma fight scene from TLJ?

youtu.be/UzeIb-TZo_I

I’m not nearly skilled enough to recreate that scene, unfortunately.

JEDIT: Happy Star Wars day everyone! Sorry I couldn’t get the entire project finished by today, but at least the biggest change is now complete. 😃

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#1431915
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The Force Awakens: Starlight (V1.1 Released!)
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bbghost said:

stevepaynter said:

Yes, the more hints of Palpatine’s return the better I reckon. If you think there are more parts of the movie where a Palpatine hint could be dropped that would be cool. Eg When Kylo is communing with Vaders helmet. “I have been every voice inside your head”

FWIW, this is how I’ve tackled this in my sequel edit, though others may want something more insular to TFA itself for a standalone version: https://vimeo.com/549080534

It’s a neat concept, but yeah, I’d stick with something more subtle.

Hal 9000 said:

Whoa, nice work! I know I’m late in congratulating you but that’s really cool.

Thank you! Though you might want to avoid watching this edit when it’s done unless you are resigned to port more changes to Restructured 😉