NeverarGreat

AntcuFaalb said:

NeverarGreat said:

This couldn't have waited another year?

No. The 2004 DVD set doesn't deserve a 10-year anniversary celebration, just a 9-year one.

^_^

In the spirit of the DVDs being murdered a mile before the finish line, we'll be slashing a year from our anniversary!

So much for making a movie only when the script is right.

Okay, I guess I've cooled a bit on the trailer since first blush, and I have a few worries. Why do they have to have a battle over Earth? Didn't they do that in the previous movie? Another avenging humanoid villain? Apart from the bit with the red planet that is from the first few minutes, where are the strange new worlds?

It's like they returned from their mission and then the story was like, oh, back to the important stuff. Let's mostly run around inside the Enterprise and hang out on Earth.

I really hope there's something that they're not showing us, Kirk's character aside.

Well, I'm sold.

(Kirk turns to his crew)

"I'm sorry."

This is all I needed to hear from the new Star Trek series.

Tobar said:

So.......this is a thing. =|

a terrifying thing.

This couldn't have waited another year?

Just what we needed on the Scriptwriting forum, more Silence.

:P

MattMahdi said:

I love your signature:

The changes that George Lucas has made over the years to Star Wars is the equivalent of someone keying your car. On an intellectual level, you know that the car still works, and its only marred a fraction of a percent of the paintjob. On an emotional level, every time you see it, it's all you can focus on, and it makes you want to rip someone's face off.

But technically a movie is "the paint job". And if by "keying" it you mean removing all the paint, replacing the expensive sound system with a cheap knockoff, putting sawdust in the engine, painting it a subtly different color, then plastering it with distracting decals and bumper stickers, then you would be approaching what they did to Star Wars. It's the same car, it just looks, sounds, and feels entirely different.

penguinofgreatness said:

The only change that was for the better was the new music at the end of ROTJ. I think it ties up the film more satisfyingly. And I still like the original music. Everything else is pointless or utter crap.

I agree that the victory celebration music was better, but not so much that it warranted a change.

In Star Wars, The new shot of the sandcrawler approaching the camera was a definite improvement from the original, and the cell block extension fix. The swooping motion of the Falcon after Han blasts at Vader in the battle of Yavin was much better, as well as the cleaned up optical effects shots. There were a lot of little improvements that I enjoy, but completely destroying this effect were the pointless cgi additions.

In Empire, I can't think of anything that was better in the special edition.

In Jedi, apart from the victory celebration song, there was nothing that I remember that was improved.

This looks fake. I don't know the industry standard for format and tone of a show treatment, but I can't imagine that this is real, as it has some amateurish bits leaking through (OUR story instead of THE story, the fact that it's dated which instantly makes the story "old" in the eyes of producers, saying that the "entire galaxy is fair game").

On to the substance of the treatment, it makes little sense to alienate a large portion of the Star Wars fanbase by rewriting EU history. I could understand it if the changes to the galaxy are massive, like the Empire immediately returning after Endor and crushing the rebellion, but as it is, it doesn't seem all that much different than the EU. The presumed conflict of the galaxy against whatever exists in the bowels of Coruscant seems too much like the live action Star Wars series which keeps not happening, as far as the focus on Coruscant is concerned.

In short, pointless and fake. Good try though.

I also have a crush:

*sigh* Isn't she just out of this world?

Wait, it's a suit, right? Like a personal spaceship, and thus feminine?

So Tony Stark has a bunch of female suit-ors behind glass in his basement, and...

I think I've just creeped myself out.

Gomu69 said:

Putting Yoda on it would be a nice touch just like it was back in the day, who else to choose from is up to anybody really from Luke or one of the Ewoks. Definitely looking forward to seeing these covers finished and ready to go from what we're seeing so far.

See, it always bothered me that they put Yoda on the posters and covers like that. I mean, Yoda's reveal in Episode 5 was supposed to be something of a surprise, albeit a small one. And if someone is looking at all three of the old vhs tapes side by side before watching them, Yoda's reveal is instantly ruined, as it was for me. Besides, it makes little sense to put him front and center on a cover of a movie where he appeared in all of two scenes. Sebastian Shaw would probably be an equally perplexing choice for the same reasons. Akbar would be a good choice, if you're going for a new hero, as well as Lando or an Ewok as said above.

One day I counted all of the scenes with lightsabers in them from all 6 movies -  from memory. The ignition count is probably accurate. It's amazing the extent to which they relied on the lightsaber in Episode 3. And it's not like they used it in inventive ways, like cutting through a blast door. It's just lightsaber battle after lightsaber battle. I hope that the lightsaber is used in cool ways in the new movies. For example, a Jedi falling off of a building or spaceship in the atmosphere could use it to arrest his fall by slicing into the building or spaceship on his way down. During a lightsaber battle, one of the combatants could deactivate the lightsaber for an instant, allowing the enemy's blade to fall through it, then reactivate it in their stomach. Length adjustments during battle could also change the dynamic, or using the Force to levitate it while activated. Or using it while on a speeder, slicing through enemy after enemy with abandon.

Of course, the best idea would be to find something more interesting than lightsaber battles to occupy screen time.

"The best of the best of the best, SIR!

...with honors."

"Nick, I'M MAKING THIS ONE UP! I'M MAKING IT UP!!! YOU CAN'T SAY YES TO IT BECAUSE IT DOESN'T &*$%ING EXIST!!!!!"

darth_ender said:

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Caption: (right to left: Obi-wan Kenobi, CreepyPuppetYoda, CreepyPuppetAnakin)

And there are still people, many people, calling for new nuclear reactors to be built in America. This is the very apex of insanity.

georgec said:

"All I have to do is squeeze..."

"All I have to do is scream."

For anyone who claims that The Last Crusade is not the best Indiana Jones movie, I merely direct them to the fact that Hitler signed Jones's diary. That wins at moviemaking forever.

Mrebo said:

I know it will happen! I prefer Jedi War to Holy War.

Lol.

I don't think that Jedi War will stay either.

The thing is, I don't want to have Jedi in these movies at all. The goal is to have it be completely Jedi and lightsaber free, so that we first learn about the lightsaber when Obi-wan gives it to Luke.

As for Owen not knowing about Anakin, I would have liked him to be ignorant of Anakin's powers throughout the movies, but as Anakin becomes the poster boy for the war in the EU, I'll work in the fact that Owen and Beru are vaguely aware of Anakin's Jedi status in the 2nd and 3rd movies.

Okay, I've changed the title to STARS OF WAR, and the working titles of the two sequels are OPEN WAR and HOLY WAR (or JEDI WAR).

Blast it, I was kind of expecting this new thread to galvanize me into actually beginning to finalize the writing of these movies. Oh well. It will happen eventually.

Thanks. I think Open War is a better title for the second in the series, the first being between Episodes 1 and 2 and called something like STARS of WAR. This will cover the first breakaway of the Separatist systems, around 24 bby. The second will be directly after the death of Cliegg Lars and the beginning of the Clone Wars, and the third will be at the same time as Episode 3.

The whole idea behind this is that a good trilogy of movies could exist within the prequel and EU timeline, a series of movies that can be watched before the original trilogy and that don't give away Anakin's fall, Yoda, or Leia. They center on Owen and Beru, and their untold adventures throughout the galaxy. These 3 movies will be unnumbered, as Episodes 1, 2, and 3 already exist, but as STAR WARS was unnumbered, this could be seen as a thematic tie-in to the ORIGINAL original trilogy.

Hard to answer such a broad question.

Take Sunshine for example. It was made for about 30,000,000 dollars, which for a big sci-fi movie is very little. However, the effects look like the work of a much larger production.

Several years ago I made a 30 minute movie with a MiniDV camera which cost about 300 dollars. We used wooded locations, used few props (this was a medieval setting), and the "actors", including myself, were all unpaid because it was for fun. Premiere Elements cost 100 dollars, and with all of the supplies the production probably ran close to a thousand dollars. The movie was pretty shit, but with a better script it would probably have been watchable. So a thousand dollars doesn't buy that much in terms of quality.

To cover the basics, hire people with acting experience, write a good script, and get permission to film in interesting locations. The costs of shooting digital should be very small compared to what is in front of the camera. Anyone can create passable CG sequences these days, the trick is primarily in story, secondly in acting.

If you want to know what it takes to make a good movie on the cheap, look at The Movie Hero. That is one of my favorite movies, and it uses extremely little in the way of sets and effects.

The fact that there was little outcry to the CGI is what makes the CGI historic.

BeyondStarWars

StarWarsHistory

StarExplorer

StarReadouts

StarWarsDataTapes

StarWiki

Ewokopedia

Yodapedia

Windipedia

Jedipedia

...aaaand now it's just getting silly.

I'm thinking either StarWiki or the aforementioned Wiki of the Whills.

So I've calibrated my screen the best I can, looked through the comparison pictures, and the thing that stands out the most, colorwise, is the reddish haze in the final scene. It's plainly apparent even in the comparison shots, where it is even redder than the GOUT! I've seen Mike Verta's color correction and his 35mm source, and the atmosphere is nowhere near as red as 2.1.

It's difficult to get the colors corrected from the DVD or Blu-ray (I've tried for weeks), but it is possible, especially if the movie is being corrected scene by scene.