NeverarGreat

With Star Wars, pretty much everyone is in agreement as to what is cool about it. There's no need to defend it. Same with Empire.

Jedi however is uneven. There are brilliant bits, and some of the worst moments in the trilogy. I think that watching the first two can make you think that Star Wars is naturally awesome and this is its natural state. When you watch Jedi, you realize just how badly things could go, and how easily. It is the trilogy at its best and its worst, and for this it seems the most relatable, the most, should I say, human. If that makes any sense.

Hey, it's me. said:

imperialscum said:

Diego said:

Speaking of which, what the hell was Luke's plan for rescuing Han? As much as I love ROTJ, I've never been able to make any sense of the plan.

Here is how I see it. First he sent Lando to infiltrate and get familiar with Jabba's habits. He found out that Jabba care about his rancor and that his worst punishment is throwing people into Sarlacc pit. So Killing his rancor would ensure "Sarlacc". Luke knew he couldn't defeat all the thugs and bounty hunters packed together in Jabba's palace so he intended to confine them to the sail barge through "Sarlacc punishment". In order to guarantee Solo will be part of the punishment, Luke sent Leia and Cheewie to melt him out of the carbon. He knew he would be stripped of his lightsabre after killing rancor therefore he hid it into R2 so he was able to use it at the Sarlacc pit.

Yes I know this plan could be ruined by a single flaw but still... that is the only reasonable way I can think of.

I understood it this way. Now initially, Lando was sent undercover for reconnaissance. How long he'd been there? Who knows? Now this left Leia, Chewie and the droids. Leia concocts her plan to disguise herself as a BH with the wookie as her captive. And remember, Luke isn't around at this point. So what are they supposed to do? Hang around til he turns up with a plan? They've got to try something. Leia fails which leaves the droids. Luke turns up and gets the SP from the droids of what's been going on and that no one has returned. So Luke devises a plan to send the droids ahead with a message from himself prior to his arrival. Now Jabba being the infamous gangster he is, Luke knows full well his offer will be spurned. So giving R2 the lightsabre is back up. Luke now has full control over his powers and his sabre is a last resort. IF he gets captured lke the others, Jabba will not be in possession of his lightsabre. No one knew how it was going to pan out? That's ridiculous. It was a risk which had to be taken. 

I think you're making it more complicated than it needs to be. Through the Force, Luke saw the future. He saw how everything was going to go down, and sent in everyone as his vision dictated. The only thing that he was unsure of was how Jabba would react to his offer, as Jabba is the only being there who can thwart Luke's power. When Jabba sentences them to the Sarlacc, you can see Luke nodding as if remembering his vision. At this point, he knows that nothing will prevent Jabba's death, as he is simply acting out his vision of the future as seen through the Force. The fact that everything works out in the end simply means that Luke trusts the Force.

I don't get this. Why would you watch the movies out of order? To get maximum enjoyment from the plot, here's the breakdown:

1. The Sixth Sense

2. Akira

3. Howl's Moving Castle

4. Star Wars

5. Empire

6. Jedi

This way the story makes total sense.

There's one change that I want someone to make to Return of the Jedi to connect it better to the prequels.

When Vader is being electrocuted by the Emperor, the bomb in his head should go off, making a horrible CGI mess all over and eliminating the need for that boring talking scene with Luke and Anakin at the end.

This way it's like poetry, they rhyme...

I think that it was a rather missed opportunity for HISHE. They could have ended it a lot sooner.

"There goes another one."

"Fire."

http://rhymeswithorange.com/

Someone's gotta tell Chewtabacca that his name is frightfully uncool now.

I'm so sorry.

On the subject of NDEs and OBEs, just because you can replicate an experience in the laboratory doesn't disprove the experience. On the contrary, it is further evidence that such experiences do happen, and are correlated with physical changes in the brain.

I have induced such a state before, so it is possible through force of will. To argue that these experiences are caused solely by "God" is ignoring the fact that people can induce OBEs at will.

I told myself that I wouldn't post in this thread, because arguing about religion is like fighting with poison ivy covered pool noodles. It's ineffective and irritates people for days afterwards.

By the way Frink, what exactly is a "lens flair"?

theevildriller said:

Not much time left on the auction. Somebody should buy it before it's too late. 

Is that...leeegal?

The reds on the lava look a lot better to me, and there's more detail in the highlights. Unfortunately, the entire image is darkened and contrasted too much, resulting in a loss of detail in the shadows, at least on my screen. It's a step up, in any case. I like the green shifted colors in particular.

Well that's one down.

What dream shall I inadvertently stamp out next?

Hmm...

...SoIDontThinkThere'sEnoughColorInformationInTheGOUTToRecolo

Sorry. The GOUT release sounds great. It will be challenging, but it may be possible.

:)

The Mission (1986)

Excellent movie. It boldly disregards paying off obvious setups in the pursuit of a more realistic depiction of religious and political violence.

It's also nice to see a younger Liam Neeson and Jeremy Irons.

So for Recobbled, I assume you would use the GOUT as a starting point, then recolor it to match some previous laserdisc release or theatrical presentation, right? Now how would you get that to be better image quality than the GOUT unless you did image registration? Because I was under the impression that the only publicly available elements prior to 2004 were of lesser quality than the GOUT.

If image quality was the goal, why not just use the Blu-rays and do what Harmy is doing with Despecialized? I guess I'm just confused as to the ultimate goal of this project.

Wow. I don't think that me and my single 1995 VHS of Empire will be much help to you. Though if you sent me screenshots and such I would happily look over them, I'm guessing you want someone with the sources to check against.

Good luck with your search and projects, they look interesting!

What project would this be?

I have some experience with color correction and photo editing.

By experience, I mean being able to read a histogram and play around with the channel mixer. But I'm a quick study.

Count me interested.

AntcuFaalb said:

NeverarGreat said:

This couldn't have waited another year?

No. The 2004 DVD set doesn't deserve a 10-year anniversary celebration, just a 9-year one.

^_^

In the spirit of the DVDs being murdered a mile before the finish line, we'll be slashing a year from our anniversary!

So much for making a movie only when the script is right.

Okay, I guess I've cooled a bit on the trailer since first blush, and I have a few worries. Why do they have to have a battle over Earth? Didn't they do that in the previous movie? Another avenging humanoid villain? Apart from the bit with the red planet that is from the first few minutes, where are the strange new worlds?

It's like they returned from their mission and then the story was like, oh, back to the important stuff. Let's mostly run around inside the Enterprise and hang out on Earth.

I really hope there's something that they're not showing us, Kirk's character aside.

Well, I'm sold.

(Kirk turns to his crew)

"I'm sorry."

This is all I needed to hear from the new Star Trek series.

Tobar said:

So.......this is a thing. =|

a terrifying thing.

This couldn't have waited another year?

Just what we needed on the Scriptwriting forum, more Silence.

:P

MattMahdi said:

I love your signature:

The changes that George Lucas has made over the years to Star Wars is the equivalent of someone keying your car. On an intellectual level, you know that the car still works, and its only marred a fraction of a percent of the paintjob. On an emotional level, every time you see it, it's all you can focus on, and it makes you want to rip someone's face off.

But technically a movie is "the paint job". And if by "keying" it you mean removing all the paint, replacing the expensive sound system with a cheap knockoff, putting sawdust in the engine, painting it a subtly different color, then plastering it with distracting decals and bumper stickers, then you would be approaching what they did to Star Wars. It's the same car, it just looks, sounds, and feels entirely different.

penguinofgreatness said:

The only change that was for the better was the new music at the end of ROTJ. I think it ties up the film more satisfyingly. And I still like the original music. Everything else is pointless or utter crap.

I agree that the victory celebration music was better, but not so much that it warranted a change.

In Star Wars, The new shot of the sandcrawler approaching the camera was a definite improvement from the original, and the cell block extension fix. The swooping motion of the Falcon after Han blasts at Vader in the battle of Yavin was much better, as well as the cleaned up optical effects shots. There were a lot of little improvements that I enjoy, but completely destroying this effect were the pointless cgi additions.

In Empire, I can't think of anything that was better in the special edition.

In Jedi, apart from the victory celebration song, there was nothing that I remember that was improved.

This looks fake. I don't know the industry standard for format and tone of a show treatment, but I can't imagine that this is real, as it has some amateurish bits leaking through (OUR story instead of THE story, the fact that it's dated which instantly makes the story "old" in the eyes of producers, saying that the "entire galaxy is fair game").

On to the substance of the treatment, it makes little sense to alienate a large portion of the Star Wars fanbase by rewriting EU history. I could understand it if the changes to the galaxy are massive, like the Empire immediately returning after Endor and crushing the rebellion, but as it is, it doesn't seem all that much different than the EU. The presumed conflict of the galaxy against whatever exists in the bowels of Coruscant seems too much like the live action Star Wars series which keeps not happening, as far as the focus on Coruscant is concerned.

In short, pointless and fake. Good try though.

I also have a crush:

*sigh* Isn't she just out of this world?

Wait, it's a suit, right? Like a personal spaceship, and thus feminine?

So Tony Stark has a bunch of female suit-ors behind glass in his basement, and...

I think I've just creeped myself out.