NeverarGreat

Huh, it seems to be back up. Well, no worries then. Any other options are still appreciated of course. :)

It seems like a lot of detail has been lost in the shadows and the highlights. The highlights also do seem to be uniformly blue-green, which is decidedly strange on Mustafar as timdiggerm said.

DuracellEnergizer said:

I still say he looks fat. =P

 Well, that's just like your opinion man.

Handman said:

NeverarGreat said:

 Corrected a bit.

 Would it be possible to recover the cooler colors of the Death Star interior? They're a bit too red now.

Corrected more. Thanks!

Ryan McAvoy said:

This may just be, not only the most badass photograph ever taken, but the most awesome thing since the dawn of man...

...and I'd never seen it before until 30 seconds ago. My circle life is now complete.

Corrected a bit.

DuracellEnergizer said:

Wouldn't a lightsaber cauterize the wounds? ;-P

 Not a 1977 model.

imperialscum said:

pablumatic said:

We even saw TIE Fighters, not TIE Interceptors in the sneak peak trailer which to me was saying "Return of the Jedi didn't happen, folks!".

ROTJ or not, seeing the same fighters 30 years afterwards is a stupidity from the story point of view.

They brought X-wings and TIE fighters back just so they can play on the "look we are going back to OT" note. I am sure many fans get "orgasm" by seeing X-wings again... LucasFilm knows that and exploits it for marketing reason of course. On the other hand, the film will suffer in the story aspect because of it.

I don't mind the X-wings, because they're clearly updated as one would expect. Same with the Stormtrooper armor. Keeping one classic ship design somewhat unchanged from the original trilogy seems reasonable to me.

mverta said:

A couple unfortunate things happened either around the time of, or because of, the sale to Disney: My LFL legal contacts moved on to greener pastures, and I no longer have dependable access to The Archives.  I don't know if a lot of people know this, but during the sale, the assets in the Archives were either sold, or loaned, or put under the control of (can't remember which) a 3rd party (a non-profit, if memory serves), so you can't just get in there like you used to if you had official business.  I've done a lot of work with licensees - Master Replicas, efx, Acme, for example - and it used to be that when we had a project, or were researching a project, or even CONSIDERING doing a project, we could get in there and get references, etc. and a couple of big projects that were well underway just had to stop until the dust settled and/or new rules were established to get access again.  To this day all I've heard is that the new controlling entity is still nervous or skittish or something about all that, and the projects remain in limbo.

My friends at Disney are not directly in-the-know about the Star Wars property, and were only able to tell me that a 4K restoration either had been or was being done; they couldn't find out it if was the OT or the Flaming-Shit-Storm version.  We can assume they were talking about Reliance's restoration, so on that front I know no more than anyone else.  

My hope is, of course, that Reliance has done a jaw-dropping restoration of the OT in 4K, which we will...get... in...4K...some...how?  On some future 4K medium?  I dunno.  But either way, that ain't happening soon for tons of reasons, so I decided to just press ahead!

Even if they do a 4K version of the OT, there are a dozen reasons that this project is more accurate/faithful/important.

It looks like the left hand side needs to be color corrected separately from the right.

I do agree that the sky is too blue - I actually like the colors in Mike Verta's uncorrected version.

Hi all, I'm wondering if there are any good websites where you can post screenshot comparisons. I ask because the site I have been using for over a year has konked out, perhaps for good:

http://screenshotcomparison.com/

So any suggestions?

acemt said:

WOW!!!!  Amazing Stuff.  I have been following -1 and have downloaded several other fixes for the original including KK's and Harmy's.   Your videos show an incredible, almost 3D quality that I can't wait to see.  Hopefully, it will be availabe someday soon.

After reading through all of the pages, I cannot see anything that tells when this might be available, other than when it's done it's done.  Any updates as to when it may be available?  I would love to DONATE.  Amazing stuff my friend.  Just amazing!

I suggest a closer reading of the pages. If you did that, you would know that it is not going to be released in any form barring some deal with Disney.

In fact, perhaps Mike could edit the original post to explicitly state the principles underlying the project, so as to cut down on this sort of thing.

I feel like you should put a spoiler warning on that site, seeing as they're re-using so many of his concepts for the new show and movie.

;)

As an aside, I find these technical discussions fascinating. And as msycamore's video illustrates, the previous stock designations are printed onto Technicolor dye-transfer prints, and as I understand it, the Technicolor film itself is clear with no markings. It's a shame that there is no working Technicolor lab anymore, I'd think that it would be extremely useful to have one lab which could print a dye-transfer copy of every film - just so there would be a color reference.

Ryan McAvoy said:

I don't recall it being spoken in that scene.

If only we had some sort of authoritative source for determining if such a thing was actually spoken. Alas, all we have is hearsay.

;)

http://zauberklang.ch/filmcolors/timeline-entry/1445/

"With the introduction of the chromogenic Eastmancolor negative/positive process it became possible to shoot with a normal one-strip camera. Three b/w color separations were produced from the Eastmancolor negative and printed by dye transfer on blank film"

http://arstechnica.com/business/2010/05/star-wars/

"Kaminski points out that a duplication of the original negative—commonly printed for the sake of protection—doesn't seem to exist for Star Wars. Something better was created, though: separation masters. "These are special silver-based copies that do not fade, and in theory should be almost identical in quality to the original negative itself, so even if the negative was destroyed you still have a perfect copy (which is the point of making the separation master)." Duplicates from these prints were used to replace damaged sections of the negative during the restoration before the release of the Special Edition."

So essentially the Technicolor film would be created based on the color separations, which were printed on Eastman stock.

Mielr said:

Let's remember that the name "Technicolor" was used long after the dye-transfer prints stopped being made. The company retained the name so "Technicolor" does not automatically mean IB prints.

True, but it's doubtful that normal print processes would have yielded a fadeless source. Unless they were just recently printed, say in the last ten years, which wouldn't make sense either.

I did a few tests of ANH Blu-ray to determine whether 720 was good enough, and for most of the shots of the film, it definitely is, such as the Tarkin shot above. For some shots however, such as some shots in the Tantive corridors for example, there is definite quality loss when going from 1080 to 720.

benduwan said:

can someone colorized the deleted black and white scenes from star wars?

that would be great.

 I'll get right on it!

;P

Very interesting! I'll have to check this out sometime.

Looking really good! I'd just watch the green shadows in some of the barge interiors, and the gold of C-3PO which is really nice and saturated in the print. Other than that, beautiful!

JEDIT: Thanks Beber :P

Hey, I boycott the release.

From time to time.

TV's Frink said:

NeverarGreat said:

"You think a princess, and a guy like me..."

"No."

Han's smile is my smile in that scene.

 That's two lines.  Pick one or get out.

 "No."

;)

TheBoost said:

EyeShotFirst said:

"It's working, it's working!!"

So said George Lucas when he looked at his bank account.

 I always felt that moment SHOULD have been a nice one... but I never got the impression they were afraid it wouldn't work, or that it working was a particular accomplishment, 

Well I always just assumed that it was a callback to E.T. and it didn't have particular relevance to the scene. They did the same thing with Yoda's bizarre escape pod.

"You think a princess, and a guy like me..."

"No."

Han's smile is my smile in that scene.