It looks like the left hand side needs to be color corrected separately from the right.
I do agree that the sky is too blue - I actually like the colors in Mike Verta's uncorrected version.
Hi all, I'm wondering if there are any good websites where you can post screenshot comparisons. I ask because the site I have been using for over a year has konked out, perhaps for good:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/
So any suggestions?
acemt said:
WOW!!!! Amazing Stuff. I have been following -1 and have downloaded several other fixes for the original including KK's and Harmy's. Your videos show an incredible, almost 3D quality that I can't wait to see. Hopefully, it will be availabe someday soon.
After reading through all of the pages, I cannot see anything that tells when this might be available, other than when it's done it's done. Any updates as to when it may be available? I would love to DONATE. Amazing stuff my friend. Just amazing!
I suggest a closer reading of the pages. If you did that, you would know that it is not going to be released in any form barring some deal with Disney.
In fact, perhaps Mike could edit the original post to explicitly state the principles underlying the project, so as to cut down on this sort of thing.
I feel like you should put a spoiler warning on that site, seeing as they're re-using so many of his concepts for the new show and movie.
;)
As an aside, I find these technical discussions fascinating. And as msycamore's video illustrates, the previous stock designations are printed onto Technicolor dye-transfer prints, and as I understand it, the Technicolor film itself is clear with no markings. It's a shame that there is no working Technicolor lab anymore, I'd think that it would be extremely useful to have one lab which could print a dye-transfer copy of every film - just so there would be a color reference.
Ryan McAvoy said:
I don't recall it being spoken in that scene.
If only we had some sort of authoritative source for determining if such a thing was actually spoken. Alas, all we have is hearsay.
;)
http://zauberklang.ch/filmcolors/timeline-entry/1445/
"With the introduction of the chromogenic Eastmancolor negative/positive process it became possible to shoot with a normal one-strip camera. Three b/w color separations were produced from the Eastmancolor negative and printed by dye transfer on blank film"
http://arstechnica.com/business/2010/05/star-wars/
"Kaminski points out that a duplication of the original negative—commonly printed for the sake of protection—doesn't seem to exist for Star Wars. Something better was created, though: separation masters. "These are special silver-based copies that do not fade, and in theory should be almost identical in quality to the original negative itself, so even if the negative was destroyed you still have a perfect copy (which is the point of making the separation master)." Duplicates from these prints were used to replace damaged sections of the negative during the restoration before the release of the Special Edition."
So essentially the Technicolor film would be created based on the color separations, which were printed on Eastman stock.
Mielr said:
Let's remember that the name "Technicolor" was used long after the dye-transfer prints stopped being made. The company retained the name so "Technicolor" does not automatically mean IB prints.
True, but it's doubtful that normal print processes would have yielded a fadeless source. Unless they were just recently printed, say in the last ten years, which wouldn't make sense either.
I did a few tests of ANH Blu-ray to determine whether 720 was good enough, and for most of the shots of the film, it definitely is, such as the Tarkin shot above. For some shots however, such as some shots in the Tantive corridors for example, there is definite quality loss when going from 1080 to 720.
benduwan said:
can someone colorized the deleted black and white scenes from star wars?
that would be great.
I'll get right on it!
;P
Very interesting! I'll have to check this out sometime.
Looking really good! I'd just watch the green shadows in some of the barge interiors, and the gold of C-3PO which is really nice and saturated in the print. Other than that, beautiful!
JEDIT: Thanks Beber :P
Hey, I boycott the release.
From time to time.
TV's Frink said:
NeverarGreat said:
"You think a princess, and a guy like me..."
"No."
Han's smile is my smile in that scene.
That's two lines. Pick one or get out.
"No."
;)
TheBoost said:
EyeShotFirst said:
"It's working, it's working!!"
So said George Lucas when he looked at his bank account.
I always felt that moment SHOULD have been a nice one... but I never got the impression they were afraid it wouldn't work, or that it working was a particular accomplishment,
Well I always just assumed that it was a callback to E.T. and it didn't have particular relevance to the scene. They did the same thing with Yoda's bizarre escape pod.
"You think a princess, and a guy like me..."
"No."
Han's smile is my smile in that scene.
Congratulations on your new job!
I must say that the midichlorian angle was handled so epically in the TPM comic. It makes such perfect sense.
doubleofive said:
Perfection.
Ryan McAvoy said:
Even if all the movie had was this soundtrack...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8BubJnLO-g
...it would be enough.
If the '38 film had a soundtrack like this, the world would be complete.
So TPM was pretty funny, though it was more serious and involved than expected. Haven't read further as of yet.
Nocturnaloner said:
towne32 said:
Nocturnaloner said:
At the very least, Abrams has the ability to tell a good line reading
Faster, more intense.
Nocturnaloner said:
from a bad one
Slower, less intense.
Would you believe I had to Google that to get the reference? But yeah, exactly. I honestly think that Lucas is autistic spectrum, and doesn't recognize human emotions very well. It would explain a lot.
But if that were true, then we would probably feel bad for giving him such a hard time. Therefore it's obviously untrue ;)
SpenceEdit said:
NeverarGreat said:
The movie could be from the point of view of Bilbo, who gets knocked out during the battle and misses the fight. He recovers afterwards and finds Thorin dying on the battlefield. It's more similar to the book in that way.
Some of the less-than-legal one film edits floating around have gone this route, and it simply doesn't work. The main character getting knocked out and missing a huge chunk of climax might work in a book (though I'd argue it doesn't) but in a film it's hugely deflating. Especially when it's the climax of so much story. I'm all for being true to the book, but this is one of the few instances where the changes were an improvement. The fight is a bit overblown but at least it was something.
Imagine if Aragorn got knocked out during Helm's Deep, then he wakes up and Gandalf is like "Oh you missed it, we saved you."? Or that episode of Game of Thrones Season 1 where they did this exact thing with Tyrion?
I thought the Tyrion episode was a clever way of avoiding an expensive battle scene, and I didn't think it was deflating at all. The point of such a thing would be to refocus the story on a single character, so if it feels deflating to miss the battle, that is only because there has been too much emphasis on battles and secondary characters already.
I was just watching one version of a Phantom Edit that tried to remove Jar Jar, but the movie really suffered from it. There's a whole lot of emotionless faces and people just standing around. I think with a change of voice and a change of dialogue, Jar Jar could be one of the best characters in the movie.
I envision him like a court jester, making jokes and acting up, yet also adding intelligent yet camouflaged commentary on the political situation. He would also know about Jedi and the Force, and comment on their corruption and ineptitude.
Someone get on this!