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- Color matching and prediction: color correction tool v1.3 released!
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These look wonderful, though still a bit on the green side.
These look wonderful, though still a bit on the green side.
The true genesis for that name (which I just made up upon seeing this thread) is that someone on an outer rim world asks Obi-wan who he thinks he is, dressing up like a Jedi, asking if he really wants to be associated with that group of has-beens. He asks who Obi-wan is again, seriously. Obi-wan retorts: 'a has-been', and the guy asks if he could call him 'Ben' for short.
That will do nicely, I think.
They look pretty good, though the golds tend to shift to green. That's probably since there's no gold reference in the shot of leia and stormtroopers. Is it possible to build a color profile with this program using multiple reference frames so that the results are similar to a LUT?
Not that it makes any difference, but if they were going for a villain on each Blu-ray cover, it should have gone:
Maul
Dooku
Grevious
Tarkin
Vader
Emperor
Boba Fett had even less of a role than Grevious in Empire, so it doesn't make any sense to put him on the cover. (If you did, however, you should put him on Empire then replace Grevious with Vader)
EyeShotFirst said:
If I liked the artist before I found out who they really are, I can still like their art. If I found out the artist was a piece of shit before I discovered there art, I can never look at their art in a good light.
If I had seen this painting not didn't know who the artist was, I would say it's very nice and well done... But knowing it's Hitler, I can't appreciate it.
Using anything Holocaust related as an example is a little far reaching, but rape is torture.
That is actually quite well rendered. I never thought to look at Hitler's art before.

This was also by Hitler, and I actually really like it. Does that make me genocidal? The world is filled with people who do terrible things, and some of these same people also do good things. Hitler's art doesn't redeem his atrocious acts, certainly, but I can certainly appreciate his few good ones.
It's funny to imagine Yoda in that picture thinking the words in your user title :)
Gorgeous!
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Star-Wars-Prequels-35mm-4K-Filmized-Editions-by-Emanswfan/topic/15033/page/1/
I don't know the status of this, but it seems to be the best bet for such a re-graining.
As for fixing episodes 1 and 2, I think that TPM could be vastly improved by changing Jar Jar's character through a new voiceover, making him possibly more of a wise jokester and someone who actually has good advice on occasion.
It would be interesting to start the edit on Tatooine, if only because that seems like the natural beginning of Anakin's story. I think there's a lot of potential in those scenes, especially in the podrace if it can be cut down and strengthened. Mostly wrapping up the story with the Tatooine scenes in Episode 2 may be a bit anticlimactic, but would at least bring the new edit full circle. Perhaps some expository flashback on Naboo at the beginning of Episode 1 before the Tatooine segments, then the marriage scene on Naboo ending the edit.
Anyway, just kicking around some ideas. Good luck with your edit!
Also, It might be interesting to see who's been here the longest. From the aforementioned thread, I see that at least three of the posters created accounts on March 10, 2003: Luke Skywalker, Bossk, and MeBeJedi. Did the site begin on that date?
Here's one from June 2004
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Star-Wars-The-Edits-and-DVDr-releases-thread/topic/801/page/1/
crampedmisfit1990 said:
mumbles_ said:
I think Jedi is pretty important to preserve considering how butchered the film was with all the special editions. It was my favourite of the three as a child but now I think I like them all just the same.
I share this opinion, I do not like Jedi any less than New Hope or Empire. In some ways it is my favorite, in others it is not. I always feel like watching all 3 together and feel weird if I only watch one at a time.
I think it would be weirder for me to watch all 3 together. Sounds like a mess ;)
I also hope this thread...awakens, if you will. ;) But what should we talk about?
I saw this video recently, which offers a breakdown of JJ's visual style. It's pretty interesting, though perhaps less snark is in order.
I totally agree that the Yoda reveal should be preserved in ESB. Directors should take a sort of Hippocratic oath when making prequels/sequels/spinoffs of movies, in that they vow to 'first do no harm' to the original story and characters.
FanFiltration said:
The best anime series I have seen in a very long time. This one will be a classic.
I can't wait for the second season. From the admittedly limited amount of anime series I have seen, this is my favorite.
Also, there's a live action movie in the works: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InF16sp7J0M and it looks just terrible.
Movie trailers could be so much better.
For instance, in Star Wars, the opening crawl tells of the first victory by the Rebel Alliance, yet the film begins after this presumably exciting battle. What if the trailer for Star Wars was simply this battle, edited to around two minutes in length? The film would remain the same, except that it now has a cool deleted scene that adds to the story instead of ruining bits of it beforehand.
darklordoftech said:
DuracellEnergizer said:
those airtubes which don't seem to serve any purpose
TIE Fighter pilots in the OOT also have airtubes.
The difference being that those airtubes are connected to an airtight spacesuit instead of to...the side of his face? Does he have little auxiliary mouths on either side of his main mouth for air? Is he an aquatic creature with gills? It could work I guess, it just seems kind of awkward.
Turisu said:
Is anybody with the know-how interested in colour-correcting these? All that beautiful recovered detail with the awful GOUT colours seems like a crime.
Either Harmy's or TeamBlu's versions could be used as a reference as both have much improved colours.
Team Blu's '97 Special Edition preservation is also a good color source, and I would argue that it is the closest of the projects to the original coloration of the film from 77, albeit with somewhat muted colors. But pretty soon there may be a much more definitive color source in the screenshots Mike Verta is planning to release. So I'd say hold off on color correction for now, good things come to those who wait :)
No, it shouldn't be applied to the intro crawl, as it desaturates highly saturated yellows. This LUT will make most scenes better, but of course it will have issues with any scene that is supposed to have a magenta push, such as the Binary Sunset. The end credits also shift ever so slightly green. I'd disable it in those three areas, but other than that, it should be good to go.
The magenta push is gone, but the lights are still somewhat red. This is mostly fixed by correcting the luminance of the shot, which I have done separately throughout the film:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/133233
The boosted reds are also brought down somewhat, and the purple tint to the entire picture is brought to a warmer, more natural hue.
I'm correcting this film shot by shot, as there is sadly little consistency to the color problems. When I get to this one, I'll be reducing the saturation for sure.
If you're looking for a LUT to fix the Blu-ray (or the DVD for that matter) of Star Wars, here's one I just finished work on:
Torrential downpour with sudden onset of hail. Wouldn't be so bad, except I was driving through it. It's kind of surreal, getting hail in the middle of summer.
Very cool! Hope whoever wins it shares this with the community.
Just saw the preview. It's got a ways to go, but it looks like this will shape up to be a respectable release when all is said and done. So refreshing to see Star Wars from 35mm without the special edition changes!
Pulling up the shadows with Premiere Pro introduces a lot of ugly noise that's hanging out down there, so I've gotten the trial of AE to see if the noise reduction effect will work for the shadows, and it doesn't look very good. fine detail is obliterated with that effect. Perhaps some sort of Super resolution effect would work.
Purely hypothetically, if the original grain plate which was used for the Blu-ray was found, would it be possible to cancel out the grain?