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Thanks! It’s not the highest priority for the edit, but if we can find the footage to complete it I think it would be a great inclusion.

For the Senate and Kylo update scenes, the new plan is to have the 1st Kylo update directly after Rey escapes, then have Rey roaming the halls and cut to the Falcon landing and Senate update, followed by Kylo being told about the Falcon. I’ve ironed out the music so that it is fairly close to final in my estimation, and I have a potential voice for the 1st Kylo update that I hope to record in the next few days. At that point we will have a much better picture of how the scenes will work, especially if we have Eddie’s final recording of the Senate line 😉

jedi_bendu said:

ken-obi said:

Revan spinning and twirling her way through it

You know what the disappointing thing about this part of the episode was? She could have just taken out the ol reliable helicopter lightsaber and avoided all the rooftop parkour by just sailing off into the sky. The opportunity was right there and they didn’t take it.

This isn’t actually a plot hole because the helicopter ability requires one season of TV to charge.

I would take the shots into After Effects and try a chroma key combined with a more detailed masking.

The effects are just rough placeholder garbage mattes for now, but thank you for the offer.

Work continues on the Senate and Kylo update scenes. I’ve found some non-movie Kylo dialogue which works fairly well in the second Kylo update, so here’s how it looks now:

“Sir, a YT model freighter has just landed in sector 12. Shall we launch fighters?”
“There’s no need. I will deal with them…personally.”

…

In other news, if you’ve been following this project from the beginning you may recall that in 2017 (almost five years ago!) I had an idea for extending the Hyperspace journey to Luke at the end of the film using altered shots of the Falcon going in and out of Hyperspace to show that the trip had many twists and turns. I eventually abandoned it due to a lack of footage as well as the extended musical track being repeated in the credits.

Since V1 of Starlight cuts this extended rendition of Rey’s theme, I thought it would be appropriate to place it back in the film. Here’s the rough mockup, just showing how the music could work with a collection of Hyperspace shots from TFA and TLJ. This uses all of the shots I have found containing the Falcon with its TFA radar dish (and even then one shot has it missing the dish).

I imagine that this scene would use footage from other Star Wars sources showing planets and stars to give us a glimpse at the wider galaxy at this point in time. So what sort of shots would work? Ideally it would be locations which exist and make sense in the Star Wars galaxy, so perhaps shots from Mando or BOBF. I am thinking along the lines of the big ring construction from Mando season 2 which the Falcon could fly through, maybe an asteroid field with a space station, then a nebula, then the shattered remains of a planet. Essentially it would be going from more to less populated worlds until we are flying through empty space.

I don’t know exactly how this scene will play out, but if we put our heads together I bet we could figure something out.

That whether the technological singularity creates a utopia or a dystopia has already been decided based on our failure to overcome the political and societal coordination problems endemic to our species.

Hal 9000 said:

Ditto, Anchorhead. You’re an interesting case.

I enjoyed the first two episodes, though without feeling “excited” per se at any point. If the series is going to excel it’s gotta earn it.

It’s always great to see Ewan. As with most of SW TV, it often feels like a theme park attraction. The inquisitors were kinda real dumb, and it seems like it would’ve been more effective so far to just have one of them involved. Just a flu kid trying to curry favor with Vader. It was great seeing Owen, and I sure hope they give Beru some dialogue at some point.

Seems like Ben juuuust comes in on this side of owning a droid.
“I’ve never owned an entire droid before, Luke. Only parts of astromech heads.”

I’m pretty sure that when Obi-wan said he never owned a droid, he was referring to the fact that he views them as persons and thus ‘owning’ them is tantamount to slavery.

He pays that astromech antenna.

Just finished watching the first two episodes. My take: It’s fun. Leia is wonderful, and Obi-wan is great as always. Sure, I could complain about a few aspects of the Inquisitors such as their accessories, makeup, costuming, design, direction, choreography, backstory, acting, purpose, and existence, but they are meaningless noise obscuring the strong signal which is measured, thoughtful character interactions, and I’m here for it.

Looks very good!

All that I’ve been able to do with Starlight is give some more agency to the New Republic, not actually explain their relationship to the galaxy or distinguishing between the Hosnian system as the seat of government and the New Republic systems. Well, Leia has dialogue saying that the Senate is being targeted instead of the New Republic, but I don’t consider that enough. There would need to be dialogue from somewhere else to describe it fully.

That is true, the Republic was demilitarized along with (supposedly) the defeated Empire. That would have also been a great line to throw in there, about how the Republic can’t be seen mobilizing a fleet if they don’t have direct evidence of the First Order doing the same.

I think the biggest issue with taking out The Republic is that in TFA the Hosnian System is treated as The Entire Republic And Their Fleet. When it’s destroyed the audience is just left saying ‘Okay, I guess the First Order rules the galaxy now because the entire New Republic was just that one system’, even though in any galaxy that doesn’t really make sense.

Take Earth for example. We don’t have a one world government, but imagine if the United Nations was a bit more powerful, with a rotating seat of government which is currently in Switzerland. If a country like North Korea took out the UN headquarters and even all of Switzerland, this would be a devastating attack and throw the world into chaos, but I also wouldn’t expect the nations of the world to suddenly give in to North Korea.

This is essentially what has happened in TFA in the lore. The Hosnian system was just one of many potential seats of New Republic power, and the one currently guarded by their largest standing fleet. With this destroyed the New Republic is in chaos, but is not yet conquered. TLJ is actually as much to blame as TFA in regards to unexplained worldbuilding since it establishes that the First Order now de-facto reigns over the galaxy and they will take over all systems within weeks.

It would be like North Korea suddenly unleashing a hidden fleet of aircraft carriers across the Pacific to try and subdue the nations of the world.

Then TROS comes in with the Sith fleet idea and strains this analogy further.

Russia could have been building a fleet of 10,000 Soviet submarines in secret, each with a nuclear payload, and if North Korea allies with them after the loss of their aircraft carriers they can still rule the world.

But none of this really matters because each nation still has their own military, and once the world got its act together they would combine forces to take out this Russian/North Korean alliance which is only really a threat due to these outdated nuclear submarines that need external radar to help them navigate out of Russia’s only warm water port.

Of course, if you give the ST this sort of context it seems rather like the New Republic was always going to come back and win, which is why the biggest problem for me is not what happens but how it is portrayed. If in TFA they described the Hosnian attack as decapitating the New Republic government instead of destroying the New Republic itself, it would go a long way. In TLJ if they’d had just changed the exposition at the end from ‘allies in the outer rim’ to ‘central worlds of the New Repubic’, it would have shown how these otherwise powerful worlds were frightened into inaction by the First Order. Finally, if TROS would have dropped the planet-destroying capabilities of the ships while keeping the civilian fleet arriving it would have actually made sense.

I didn’t know that scene could get more creepy, but here we are.

It definitely looks more expansive, in both location and scope of the class divisions.

This definitely looks like the most interesting of the recent shows.

Then it might be an issue with adblock or another service blocking images on the site.

Ripplin said:

Always nice to see an Adywan mega post. 😃

I’m more excited to see a Ripplin post 😉

Use an exclamation point followed by open brackets, then closed brackets, then parentheses where you will place the URL of the image you want to post. Like this:

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…except without the spaces.

It’s ironic; I came up with ‘Sith eyes Rey’ before TROS was even in production as a way to indicate that one particular moment should be read as darker than usual, and when TROS released people insisted I add the two small Palpatine sound references from Hal’s project into mine out of obligation more than anything else. I was trying to allow the project to play nice with any possible future, but personally I oppose Rey Palpatine with every fiber of my being.

But now the edit has apparently become the very thing I swore to destroy.

The freighter idea sounds good. For the other dialogue, perhaps:

Sir, Phasma has all available troops searching the cell block, and base patrols are doubled."
“Put every hangar on lockdown! The longer it takes to find her, the more dangerous she becomes.”

And yes, I was planning on fixing the music issues and making it less repetitive. The original film has this musical theme during the update scenes, but now that they’re all together it needs more variation.

JEDIT: The other option to fix the repetitive nature of the scenes would be to restructure the events to be a bit more in line with the theatrical version.

-Kylo finds Rey missing
-Rey runs down the halls
-Kylo Updated Part 1
-Falcon Hyperspace and landing
-Senate Response (cuts to mountain establishing shot)
-Kylo Updated Part 2
-Han, Finn and Chewie
-Hux Starkiller update
-The Crew Enters the Base

The trouble is that Kylo’s tantrum is a natural end to those events, so cutting to Rey feels odd as well. However, it probably makes the most sense to put the Kylo update part 1 scene right before the Hyperspace shot so that when we come back to the base and have a similar scene it’s as if we are picking up where we left off.

The Clone Wars being above the OT is a war crime, but the lack of TROS forgives all.

I think I’ve cracked it! All that was required was a bit of audio editing.

“Sir, Phasma reports that the girl must have escaped the cell block.”
“She’s just beginning to touch her powers. The longer it takes to find her, the more dangerous she becomes. Put every hangar on lockdown!”
(Rey runs through the halls)
“My Lord, all hangars are on lockdown, but we found a vessel outside the base.”
“She’s going to try to steal that ship to escape!”
“Sir, it’s the Falcon.”
“Han Solo.”

The first line had to be shortened due to Kylo saying more lines after it, but alternately I could cut ‘She’s just beginning to touch her powers’ and keep the flow of the original scene largely intact. For example:

“Sir, Phasma’s troops are searching the cell block, but she could have moved to other levels.”
“The longer it takes to find her, the more dangerous she becomes. Put every hangar on lockdown.”

I’ve updated the prior link with this version. Also available here

In my version, Han’s line and the crashing through the forest has been cut. But even if it wasn’t, they still emerged from Hyperspace some ways above the mountains so there was probably a blip on the radar screens.

I’ve thought about moving the scenes around so Kylo and Han are both in the base at the same time, but I’m constrained by the logistics of what’s happening to a certain extent. We need to have some space between Kylo in the base and Kylo at the Falcon to preserve the continuity of movement, and that’s also why I’m trying to put some dialogue in to indicate the location of the Falcon. Otherwise Kylo would just sense Han and go straight to him.

Children’s drama is Filoni’s strong suit, which is one reason why ATLA was so good.

But as noted, Filoni isn’t great at translating that broad simplistic emotionality into adult drama, which is one reason why his other shows suffer.