NeverarGreat

True, it is a big part of the story, but we need to see how her arc in Episode 8 plays out to know how much importance is placed on a weapon. Perhaps she is embracing the Dark Side in her fight with Kylo Ren, so she’s going down an Anakin Skywalker path. In this case the importance of the lightsaber in this scene is justified. Otherwise, I think the focus of this scene should be the safety of Finn and company.

My main interest is in keeping the entirety of the music in this scene. Whether or not the lightsaber shot remains in V2 is an issue I am willing to concede 😃

Not that it is of particular importance in the grand scheme of things, but I was digging around online to find better images of Trump’s Inauguration crowd vs Obama’s, since most outlets crop the images before the new buildings at the National Mall. Here is a comparison from Reuters shown on Japan Times, with the Trump picture allegedly taken at 12:01:

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2017/01/21/world/politics-diplomacy-world/trump-draws-far-smaller-inaugural-crowd-obama/#.WIWx6X1WJ8G

And a CBS report with the same image:
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/photos-president-trumps-inauguration-crowd-vs-president-obamas/

An even more expansive shot, from slightly earlier:

Finally, here’s a full view of the Obama 2009 inauguration:

I looked everywhere for a similar image for Trump’s inauguration, but I think it’s pretty safe to say there was nobody hanging out back there in the boonies.

DominicCobb said:

NeverarGreat said:

Here’s my ideal version of that scene without the pilot celebrations. It’s music only at this point, but I’ve also removed the lightsaber pickup shot because it feels like a prequelism.
https://vimeo.com/200626043
password: music

Ooh, nice I appreciate trying to preserve that utterly splendid musical cue (though I can’t abide the removal of that lightsaber pickup, nor the calling it a “prequelism”).

Thanks!

I guess my main problem with the saber shot is that it detracts from the almost equally brief shot of Finn beforehand, implying equivalent importance. This rubs me the wrong way, since Finn is (and should be) much more important to the viewer than a mere weapon.

Here’s my ideal version of that scene without the pilot celebrations. It’s music only at this point, but I’ve also removed the lightsaber pickup shot because it feels like a prequelism.
https://vimeo.com/200626043
password: music

That moment I realize that I’m the one on the left

…and ‘paper’ is replaced with ‘book’.

That would be nice, I haven’t found anything that works in Markdown though.

You mean Restructured V1? It’s out in the world. . . .

It seems unlikely, especially considering the frantic pace of the movie, and the angles of the sun to the castle remain fairly constant throughout the scenes as far as I can tell. But I would accept this explanation were it not for the sunset TIEs shot which was the biggest issue in the first place.

Ah I see. How foolish of me.

Why is everyone’s avatar suddenly red?

I get the feeling in TPM that Qui-gon and Obi-wan have done some research on their mission, and know about the Gungan-Naboo situation.

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Really good work here.

SilverWook said:

NeverarGreat said:

SilverWook said:

Vader conceivably could have kept Kenobi’s saber on his person, therefore it survived DS 1 blowing up. After that, who knows?

Well the Kenobi lightsaber prop was re-tooled for Luke’s lightsaber, so now I’m imagining a Rogue One type story between Empire and Jedi where Luke steals Ben’s lightsaber from Vader and improves it, since he lacks the skill to make one himself.

Luke built a new green saber. (It was even a cut scene from the movie.) Vader even referred to it as a sign Luke’s skills were complete.

I forget that sometimes I see Star Wars things that don’t originate from this site:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7adP0f6zgR4
So my comment was based on the real-life journey of the prop 😃

Nice to see more of Mark and the ROTJ lightsaber:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7adP0f6zgR4

I don’t know of such a thread, but I don’t mind discussion here as long as it stays pleasant 😃 There is little point in it as it pertains to my project, but if people wanted to discuss reel 2 (garage scene, Tusken scene, etc) there would be a non-zero chance of it influencing my final grade. 😉

Jetrell Fo said:

Never, I am really enjoying what it is you are doing here. Thank you for sharing the journey with us.

😃

You’re very welcome. I enjoy the discussion as well, even if it is sometimes a bit technical or subjective to me.

SilverWook said:

Vader conceivably could have kept Kenobi’s saber on his person, therefore it survived DS 1 blowing up. After that, who knows?

Well the Kenobi lightsaber prop was re-tooled for Luke’s lightsaber, so now I’m imagining a Rogue One type story between Empire and Jedi where Luke steals Ben’s lightsaber from Vader and improves it, since he lacks the skill to make one himself.

NeverarGreat said:

[Trump said:]

At the bedrock of our politics will be a total allegiance to the United States of America. And through our loyalty to our country, we will rediscover our loyalty to each other.
When you open your heart to patriotism, there is no room for prejudice.

I sure am glad he’s moderating the authoritarian overtones.
/s

JEDIT: His entire statement is so much worse:

"At the bedrock of our politics will be a total allegiance to the United States of America and through our loyalty to our country, we will rediscover our loyalty to each other. When you open your heart to patriotism, there is no room for prejudice. The Bible tells us how good and pleasant it is when God’s people live together in unity. We must speak our minds openly, debate our disagreements honestly, but always pursue solidarity.

When America is united, America is totally unstoppable.

There should be no fear. We are protected, and we will always be protected. We will be protected by the great men and women of our military and law enforcement. And most importantly, we will be protected by God."

“There should be no fear” - A tacit admission that everyone is terrified, and feel the need to invoke the police, the military, and God to protect them.

It also sounds like ‘God’s people’ is limited to just ‘Americans’, since that sentence is in the paragraph about fanatical patriotism! What happens when ‘God’s people’ wish to pursue solidarity with other nations? This just keeps getting better and better.

DrDre said:

Does the projector use the yellow bulb common in the 70’s?

Also, the tone is consistent with the Senator screening photos, though there is more contrast, the highlights are more blue, and the shadows even more yellow:

[Trump said:]

At the bedrock of our politics will be a total allegiance to the United States of America. And through our loyalty to our country, we will rediscover our loyalty to each other.
When you open your heart to patriotism, there is no room for prejudice.

I sure am glad he’s moderating the authoritarian overtones.
/s

I don’t think the Poe shot detracts from the overall tone of the scene. After all, we see the pilots celebrating after returning to the base, presumably still on a high from the immediate victory. It makes sense that in the moment, Poe is playing the optimist as he does throughout the film.

(Perhaps I’m just sad that my favorite musical theme of the film is being sliced and I should just get over it)

As far as Global Warming is concerned, I believe that there is plenty of evidence to conclusively say whether or not humans are substantially involved in planetary warming and predict many of the deleterious effects of said warming. However, I personally have

In fact, I don’t think that any single person knows enough to say with certainty anything about AGW, as it is a question uniquely suited to a large network of people pursuing disparate yet parallel lines of investigation. In fact, if anyone were to claim that they knew conclusively that AGW was a myth, I would ask to see how many lifetimes they have spent investigating the problem.
Therefore, I will refer to the scientists on this one, and the vast majority say we should be concerned. So I will be concerned.

Warbler said:

a big fuck you goes out to Governor Christie for saying this:

[Governor Christie said:]

I understand why people are interested if you are a public figure, as to who you root for,” Christie said. “They’re interested. But the hostility, I will tell you that I take for being a Cowboys fan — and this is what I say to Giants fans all the time, and Eagles fans. Now Eagles fans I can understand it from a little more because the Eagles do suck and they’ve sucked for a long time. And their fans are generally angry, awful people.

Fuck you, you fat piece of shit.

I’m no fan of Christie, but if you’re an Eagles fan, doesn’t what you just said count as an Own goal?

Jetrell Fo said:

ROTJ is up.

Screen shots:

Wait.
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Here’s a 2nd generation bootleg from '78, with and without a correction:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/197780
Original Colors:

After taking out as much green as I dare:

Notice that R2 is still blue in the escape pod.
For my project, the green levels of the offending shots are in line with the shot of C-3PO in the access hallway, so they are slightly reduced compared to the bootleg.