NeverarGreat

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Really good work here.

SilverWook said:

NeverarGreat said:

SilverWook said:

Vader conceivably could have kept Kenobi’s saber on his person, therefore it survived DS 1 blowing up. After that, who knows?

Well the Kenobi lightsaber prop was re-tooled for Luke’s lightsaber, so now I’m imagining a Rogue One type story between Empire and Jedi where Luke steals Ben’s lightsaber from Vader and improves it, since he lacks the skill to make one himself.

Luke built a new green saber. (It was even a cut scene from the movie.) Vader even referred to it as a sign Luke’s skills were complete.

I forget that sometimes I see Star Wars things that don’t originate from this site:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7adP0f6zgR4
So my comment was based on the real-life journey of the prop 😃

Nice to see more of Mark and the ROTJ lightsaber:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7adP0f6zgR4

I don’t know of such a thread, but I don’t mind discussion here as long as it stays pleasant 😃 There is little point in it as it pertains to my project, but if people wanted to discuss reel 2 (garage scene, Tusken scene, etc) there would be a non-zero chance of it influencing my final grade. 😉

Jetrell Fo said:

Never, I am really enjoying what it is you are doing here. Thank you for sharing the journey with us.

😃

You’re very welcome. I enjoy the discussion as well, even if it is sometimes a bit technical or subjective to me.

SilverWook said:

Vader conceivably could have kept Kenobi’s saber on his person, therefore it survived DS 1 blowing up. After that, who knows?

Well the Kenobi lightsaber prop was re-tooled for Luke’s lightsaber, so now I’m imagining a Rogue One type story between Empire and Jedi where Luke steals Ben’s lightsaber from Vader and improves it, since he lacks the skill to make one himself.

NeverarGreat said:

[Trump said:]

At the bedrock of our politics will be a total allegiance to the United States of America. And through our loyalty to our country, we will rediscover our loyalty to each other.
When you open your heart to patriotism, there is no room for prejudice.

I sure am glad he’s moderating the authoritarian overtones.
/s

JEDIT: His entire statement is so much worse:

"At the bedrock of our politics will be a total allegiance to the United States of America and through our loyalty to our country, we will rediscover our loyalty to each other. When you open your heart to patriotism, there is no room for prejudice. The Bible tells us how good and pleasant it is when God’s people live together in unity. We must speak our minds openly, debate our disagreements honestly, but always pursue solidarity.

When America is united, America is totally unstoppable.

There should be no fear. We are protected, and we will always be protected. We will be protected by the great men and women of our military and law enforcement. And most importantly, we will be protected by God."

“There should be no fear” - A tacit admission that everyone is terrified, and feel the need to invoke the police, the military, and God to protect them.

It also sounds like ‘God’s people’ is limited to just ‘Americans’, since that sentence is in the paragraph about fanatical patriotism! What happens when ‘God’s people’ wish to pursue solidarity with other nations? This just keeps getting better and better.

DrDre said:

Does the projector use the yellow bulb common in the 70’s?

Also, the tone is consistent with the Senator screening photos, though there is more contrast, the highlights are more blue, and the shadows even more yellow:

[Trump said:]

At the bedrock of our politics will be a total allegiance to the United States of America. And through our loyalty to our country, we will rediscover our loyalty to each other.
When you open your heart to patriotism, there is no room for prejudice.

I sure am glad he’s moderating the authoritarian overtones.
/s

I don’t think the Poe shot detracts from the overall tone of the scene. After all, we see the pilots celebrating after returning to the base, presumably still on a high from the immediate victory. It makes sense that in the moment, Poe is playing the optimist as he does throughout the film.

(Perhaps I’m just sad that my favorite musical theme of the film is being sliced and I should just get over it)

As far as Global Warming is concerned, I believe that there is plenty of evidence to conclusively say whether or not humans are substantially involved in planetary warming and predict many of the deleterious effects of said warming. However, I personally have

In fact, I don’t think that any single person knows enough to say with certainty anything about AGW, as it is a question uniquely suited to a large network of people pursuing disparate yet parallel lines of investigation. In fact, if anyone were to claim that they knew conclusively that AGW was a myth, I would ask to see how many lifetimes they have spent investigating the problem.
Therefore, I will refer to the scientists on this one, and the vast majority say we should be concerned. So I will be concerned.

Warbler said:

a big fuck you goes out to Governor Christie for saying this:

[Governor Christie said:]

I understand why people are interested if you are a public figure, as to who you root for,” Christie said. “They’re interested. But the hostility, I will tell you that I take for being a Cowboys fan — and this is what I say to Giants fans all the time, and Eagles fans. Now Eagles fans I can understand it from a little more because the Eagles do suck and they’ve sucked for a long time. And their fans are generally angry, awful people.

Fuck you, you fat piece of shit.

I’m no fan of Christie, but if you’re an Eagles fan, doesn’t what you just said count as an Own goal?

Jetrell Fo said:

ROTJ is up.

Screen shots:

Wait.
…

Here’s a 2nd generation bootleg from '78, with and without a correction:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/197780
Original Colors:

After taking out as much green as I dare:

Notice that R2 is still blue in the escape pod.
For my project, the green levels of the offending shots are in line with the shot of C-3PO in the access hallway, so they are slightly reduced compared to the bootleg.

Jackpumpkinhead said:

Wow, how this edit has grown! I am loving all of the changes so far for version 2. I think it will probably be the version that I will be working from for my own personal edit that removes all references to Kylo being a skywalker until the end. Keep up the great work everyone!

Glad you find my replacement shots acceptable! It’s been a learning curve for sure, getting them up to the previous standard.

I remember watching a few scenes from some show/movie on TV in the 90’s involving some uniformed children (scouts?) trying unsuccessfully to rescue an older man from quicksand. It then cut to some pirates (I think) climbing the inside of a tower, using a spiral staircase. Seeing that their path was blocked, one of them said ‘Throw me a hook’, and getting it, he leaped into the middle of the tower onto a massive rope connected to a bell at the top. When he landed on the rope, the bell rang out, and somewhere else (the top of the tower?) a group of gaudily dressed people heard the tolling of the bell during their rowdy reveries.

That is all I remember, and it bugs me that I don’t know what show or movie this bizarre sequence was from.

Tobar said:

That’s Angel. He used to post here back in the day but left after some disagreements…

Huh, I must not have been around then. It’s a shame, he has some neat ideas.

Some of his ideas are brilliant, but I can’t stand how he adds blue lights and blue panels and blue highlights to every. single. shot.

Hal 9000 said:

I’ve been thinking about the rathtara. Not sure at this point.

Rathtara. [rath-taar-uh] The homeworld of the Rathtars.

Bingowings said:

I had no idea this was a thing but there are many of them. https://youtu.be/TQGgnciEOGM https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RAWYMxygeBk

It’s telling that for a 4 minute video, only 30 seconds of it feature ships from the OT landing, and even then only two from the original editions actually land on camera. What is it with the PT showing us every ship landing and lightsaber drop?

Just my two cents, since this is still my thread (I think 😉) - In discussing this shot with someone who happens to have a degree in technical theater and was a stage manager for some years, they say that green is never used to light a scene unless you want someone to look like a witch or a zombie, and the green gels are very expensive, so you’d get chewed out if you tried to use one outside of those applications.

I don’t know as much about the film side of things, but I bet the same principles apply. A green look could easily be achieved in the color timing step, and there was probably a concerted effort to avoid green in shots, especially with the Technicolor process that shifted things to green anyway. All this points to normal white/yellow/blue/red lights being used.

My philosophy is to grade an entire location so that objects in it appear the same color in every shot. I can’t imagine that the filmmakers wanted a wildly different look for different shots in the same location, so this corridor shot has a green tone like the rest of the shots in this scene. It’s not overpowering, but it’s there.

I should also mention that this part of the film has been completed and rendered for quite some time, so it’s not like I’m going to go back and work on it again. You’re welcome to continue debating the intricacies of color grading and production lighting in this shot, but I don’t really see the point now. 😃

Okay, I can see what can be done with the sunset battle idea in full.

While watching V1, my friends and I were discussing a possible edit that hasn’t been mentioned here, so I’ll just mention it: Poe’s survival and arrival at the battle could be more surprising/emotional if his introductory whoop was moved to just after Finn yells “That’s one hell of a pilot!” Then it could quickly cut to “Don’t let these dogs scare you”, so we keep all of his dialogue. Just an idea to chew on.

It would be pretty wizard if the whole battle looked like this:

Probably outside the scope of this edit though 😃

I am gruntled by this.