NeverarGreat

MalàStrana said:

(as far as I’m concerned the ending “helicopter shot” is absolutely hideous. So cheap, so weird - looks like Luke is played by a dummy -, so out of place, so… dumb… I would completely remove it)

I don’t think it’s entirely out of place, but it doesn’t work well at the end. I made a mockup of how this scene might end differently, but it’s definitely outside the scope of this edit:
https://mega.nz/#!HN9U0DbA!Rf6CCKIlVMGYasEtMUv2MDXHRZitSEqaHQMRmjSrqEQ

http://www.theonion.com/article/white-house-staff-reminded-place-lids-firmly-trash-55168

hehehe.

The SKB sequence is complete, as far as I’m concerned, so it’s ready for final render 😃

On another note, the final shot of the film has bothered me since my first viewing, since it weaves and bobs drunkenly. I scaled it 107% and stabilized it: https://vimeo.com/201330286
Password: stable
Full quality:
https://mega.nz/#!bUVzlQ7Y!Sw0THl1J_Wtgtrq_bbTvydGVmAgNLBph959eCgMddVs

What do you think? I know it’s not strictly related to the edit. 😃

DuracellEnergizer said:

Carnosaur (1993)

This movie is the anti-Jurassic Park. Whereas Jurassic Park had innovative special effects, strong direction, great characters, damn good acting, and leaves the viewer in awe of the majesty of dinosaurs and nature herself, Carnosaur has effects which would’ve been laughable in the '70s, direction on auto pilot, paper-thin characters, tepid-to-poor acting, and leaves the viewer wanting to nuke the Earth just to cleanse the universe of the species which made this movie.

2/10

I’d hate to see what sort of cinematic abomination would make you give a movie 1/10.

Since I just noticed the sound on the last few viewings, I have the opposite reaction. It seems out of place to me.

I wonder if the uncomfortableness comes from there being only a wind sound and music in that place instead of sounds of planetary cataclysm. Perhaps a strong steam exhaust effect would also help. It aint over yet. 😃

https://vimeo.com/201235779
Password: sound

Okay, I’ve addressed the following issues:

• I think you can probably do a bit of a crossfade when Rey cries over Finn between the existing music and the new (rather than simply dropping out the existing music entirely)
• missing the sound as Rey drops on Finn
• bit of a rough audio edit when we cut to the closeup of the cockpit
• when they’re running to the Falcon, missing the sound of the Falcon door opening (and then the hiss when they’re boarding)
• missing the sound of the Falcon revving up when Finn is placed on the med bed
• also notice in the film how the sounds of the destruction of the planet slowly start to become louder as the Falcon takes off - rather than begin loud immediately at the start of the shot
• also the explosion sounds are sort of overpowering the music here, careful with that (explosions were definitely secondary to the music in the film’s mix)

The Falcon ramp sound doesn’t make much sense in its original placement, since I doubt Chewie would take the time to close the door behind him just to open it up moments later - after all, time is of the essence. I’ve placed it inside the Falcon, so presumably Rey is closing the door behind her. Since she is now at the door, it doesn’t make sense to have the Falcon revving sound since nobody is in the cockpit.
I’ll probably try to incorporate a bit more of your suggestions before final render as well.

Glad it’s only a couple of things 😉

I’ll take another stab at it, but keep in mind most of the sounds are replacements and it will only be an approximation.

Hal 9000 said:

NeverarGreat said:

Thanks, I’m glad it works! I played around with the 5.1 audio for the implosion in Audacity for a while, and if there’s a way to extract any of the explosions from the music without making sound like it’s underwater, it’s beyond my abilities. Some of the sound effects earlier in the scene benefit from being between musical notes, hence why I was able to keep them, but here the music saturates the effects.

Gotcha.
And, hey, it’s pretty great. In the interest of making it even better…
Could there be a ramp clattering and steam release sounds dropped in as Rey and Chewie head into the Falcon, perhaps? Also, and this might just be how it has to be to work, the music does a sing-song refrain of itself after the wipe back to the Resistance base, the second half of which is gone now. The second half of the sing-song thing occurs right after the first shot. Hope that makes sense.

DAMN, you guys are awesome, coming out of the woodwork to spruce this thing up. I feel like I should be able to draw on a metaphor from fiction about this, something about people showing up out of nowhere to repair a broken house or something. I only embarked on this project because I wanted the end result to exist. Despite what you might infer about me from my behavior, editing is painful for me to do at times! I’m like Captain Kirk from that episode where his inner aggressive, decisive side was separated in a transporter accident. You all are my Spock and Bones.

You know, I just noticed the ramp sound effect in the original after rendering the latest version, so I’ll see if it can be put back in. As for the refrain, I think I know what you’re talking about, but I’m pretty sure all the notes are there. I shortened the first shot of the Resistance base but the second shot is the same length, and I overlaid the music over that so nothing should be missing.

Totally understand about the editing fatigue. I am doing this now because I need a break from the Technicolor project, but also because it’s a brilliant idea that makes the film better 😃

Hal 9000 said:

NeverarGreat said:

I’ve tweaked the levels of the sound effects and edited the Starkiller implosion. I think it’s rather an improvement, hopefully it is to everyone’s liking:
https://vimeo.com/201216702
Password: sound

NOT BAD. It’s nothing if not seamless. Even if only tiny snippets of the original explosion foley can be salvaged from the fully baked soundtrack, even that would be great. I’m thinking about how the Phantom Editor subtly weaved together original vocals and his own voice for Zam Wessel as she was giving her last words.
Don’t get me wrong; as it is now, it’s perfectly usable. I was leaning toward not going with that idea (and sticking with stitched together music and leaving the existing effects in place), but you sold me.

JEDIT: It’s only after doing a direct comparison to the original that I notice what you mean by removing cheers. I thought you clipped a shot, but no, you replaced the audio seamlessly and I didn’t have a clue. 😃

Thanks, I’m glad it works! I played around with the 5.1 audio for the implosion in Audacity for a while, and if there’s a way to extract any of the explosions from the music without making sound like it’s underwater, it’s beyond my abilities. Some of the sound effects earlier in the scene benefit from being between musical notes, hence why I was able to keep them, but here the music saturates the effects.

I’ve tweaked the levels of the sound effects and edited the Starkiller implosion. I think it’s rather an improvement, hopefully it is to everyone’s liking:
https://vimeo.com/201216702
Password: sound

That bootleg correction is very close to ideal, as far as I can tell.

Oh, it might actually have that capacity, I just avoid that effect because it’s been known to cause problems with my renders. If I were to do this project again I would definitely find a different software first.

Premiere doesn’t actually have that capacity either, the program I used for the LUT was Speedgrade. I’d just wait for a higher quality scan before considering a shot by shot project - it has a tendency to take over your life 😉

Sougouk said:

suspiciouscoffee said:

Idk why people are worried about Luke dying in future movies. If they kill Luke in TLJ (or later), they’ll surely Force Ghost him and he’ll still be there, just bluer and less opaque.

Luke as a Force Ghost would be cool, if it were to ever happen. As a Force Ghost, Luke would still be helping out with the knowledge he gained over the years. Though, he’d probably have Yoda on his back, because he’s training Luke, to perfect his Force Ghost.

Perfection.

Indeed, that’s what I eventually realized. It’s not a problem now since I have corrected for it, but it certainly was a hassle.

Yet another iteration of the crawl:

Luke Skywalker, last of the
mystic guardians of peace
in the galaxy, has vanished.
In his absence, the sinister
First Order has risen from
the ashes of the Empire.

His sister, General Leia
Organa, has failed to
convince the Republic of
this new threat, even as
the First Order hastens
to complete a secret weapon
that will strike at the
Republic’s very heart.

Desperate for her brother’s
help, Leia mobilizes a
covert RESISTANCE and sends
her bravest pilot on a mission
to Jakku, where a clue has been
discovered to the whereabouts
of the last Jedi. . . .

Thanks, it’s my first real attempt at this wholesale sound replacement.

And yeah, those implosion effects are better. I wonder if they can be isolated…

Yeah, I think that you would need to mention the SKB in the final paragraph or not at all to make sense of Leia’s knowledge of the situation.

In somewhat related news, I’ve made a version of the music only SKB destruction that isn’t music only!
https://vimeo.com/201158969
Password: sound

Most of the sound is recreated, and I went ahead and took out the crowd cheer at the end.

I think a SKB mention in the crawl is warranted, for the reasons that DominicCobb stated above.

Jetrell Fo said:

Check this shit out … LMAO!!!

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/01/trump-freezes-obamas-221000000-parting-gift-to-the-palestinians

If websites are to be judged by the quality of their comments, then I would trust Jihad Watch about as much as Kellyanne Conway’s ‘Alternate Facts’.

Granted, the OT off topic section is not a sterling example itself.

On that note, what do we think the color of the Episode IX title will be? It looks like JJ and Rian took the most obvious ones, so it will probably be green or blue. White would be an interesting choice though.

I’ve got a bad feeling about this…

In my travels across the cosmos, I studied humans for a time. I observed that there were innumerable pathways in the human brain dedicated to sexual desire, and only some of these synapses fired in response to indications of a specific sex. Most were concerned only with general arousal, indicating to me that humans are overwhelmingly homo(meaning human)-sexual. In other words, they are attracted to other humans, and this attraction is only then filtered through gender specific channels.

See: Cinderella (2015), The Jungle Book (2016), Pete’s Dragon (2016), Beauty and the Beast (2017), and Mulan (2018) for further examples.

It is a shame, as I doubt this scene could work in any other edit. There simply isn’t a place for it unless the Hosnian destruction is moved to the end, so I feel like it should go in - if for nothing else than as a proof of concept.