Perhaps if he says “Finn is familiar with their weapon system, he worked on the base”. It still references a weapon, but we have already seen the Starkiller twice at this point, so most people probably assume it’s some kind of weapon.
Another idea for the edit:
https://mega.nz/#!iN83iIrQ!he9Q9EX-CgV3f3DtSmpboXohXV6NSqytnx2DL8oIx_8
In version 1, the first time we hear about Finn working on the Starkiller Base is in the briefing, and it feels like we’re missing crucial information about both Finn and the base. With this in mind, I’ve changed Poe’s line so that it reads: “Finn’s familiar with a weapon in the Hosnian system, he worked on the base.” This establishes that the Starkiller, not the Republic, is based in the Hosnian system. In giving it a named location, it also presumes reconnaissance by the Resistance.
I think it might work if the sound was finessed a bit more, the biggest issue is one of canonicity, since nobody knows whether the word ‘Hosnian’ will come up again in the Sequel Trilogy. Presumably it will, but then again Alderaan was never brought up again after Star Wars.
JEDIT: Or, since there’s a brief cutaway to Leia, he could say any made-up location at all, as long as it doesn’t sound unnatural.
And just for fun
ITFY
You have clearly not achieved Special Edition George Lucas, since he still has his eyebrows.
The state of Indiana recently calculated the cost of illegal immmigration in their state to be $130 million. This makes me think that the estimates for the map may be 4-5 times greater than reality. So $80 billion total cost divided by the low estimate of 4 is $20 billion, which is about the cost of the Trump border wall - a wall which by the way won’t decrease the number of illegal immigrants already in the country.
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I think the crawl is wonderful, a great improvement of the original.
The Leia scene will entail quite a lot of effects work, starting with the footage itself. I also have a few more ideas about how to integrate it into the scene. 😃
This is America at her finest for sure. Sometimes seeing it takes time and a nudge from an unlikely situation.
On a separate note, I’d like to share a post I found from a Native American regarding his thoughts on this recent Executive Order issue. These are not my words nor does he speak for me or anyone else.
Listen, people. Being politically correct is a slow death. Hate is real. Whole countries have hated us since before we existed. Our nation decimated my Indian ancestors. Can’t change or fix that. But feeling bad doesn’t change the fact that there are men in certain countries that would spend big money to do unspeakable things to yours and mine. That being said, let’s be real and understand that not one single person reading this, or otherwise, is gonna change shit!
You can choose to cry, grovel, associate, etc., THESE MOFOS HATE US! They probably should. America sprouted out of nowhere, with a common interest of freedom. Are you really free? We’re all slaves to our jobs, for what? Cool house, car, or whatever bullshit they tell you you need? I say it’s all a farce, and it will never mean shit until people realize that none of us control our destiny. Most let the idiot box do it for them.
Question. Can you fish? Hunt? Build? Fight? THINK? LIVE? Then maybe you’ll make it for the short fucking time you’re allowed to spin through space! Nothing is promised, from the day we were born. Instead of some hateful rebuttal, think about it. What are we here for? What’s really worth getting upset and or dying for? My family and my fellow countrymen is all I have. So if some asshole that wants to subjucate me more than I already am, can’t fly here to kill me or one of my family? I say rot in the sand.
We’ve already seen what trying to make some cultures assimilate does. Cultural marxism is only a failure if we keep trying to accompish it. THEY HATE US! Not the other way around.
Peace!
This is the sort of nihilism that saddens me to my core. The idea that we are mere creatures of filth and circumstance, predestined for a future of meanness and ‘might makes right’, is wholly against everything that the noble spiritual traditions and philosophical movements of this planet stand for. It’s insidious and makes us less than we can be, and I feel more and more that the fight against apathy and nihilism must be my fight.
Thanks, I used the wipes because they tend to soften a quick transition. I’ll try it without and see how it works.
@Kexikus: Originally I thought that the natural place for the scene was after ‘I need your help’, but after putting it there it just didn’t work for me. The problem is that you expect an immediate response to Finn’s line, and cutting to a somewhat arbitrary bit of exposition is too much whiplash. At least with its placement just after Finn’s arrival, he could be taking in the sights. This allows the audience to take a momentary break from his story.
I also cut the entire resistance base section into pieces to try and work it in later, but there’s just no place. As George Lucas once said, if you move just one piece all the rest don’t work.
No worries, I too do that all the time 😃
Last night I played around with Youtube rips of the deleted scenes trying to cobble together a usable mockup of Leia at the Resistance base: https://mega.nz/#!iY83FLZI!U5kMj4Efpv70sttWNIQL507rkKf19JgGn7MUJSmnBm4
It feels somewhat jarring the first time, but after a few watchthroughs I don’t feel the deletion of the Finn material nearly as much.
I liked the ‘return to power’ better, as it is simpler, but I understand that there could be confusion about that. Instead of that third sentence being a veiled allusion to SKB, it would be better if you stated its secret presence outright.
‘Demilitarized New Republic’ is accurate but perhaps too advanced a term for the crawl.
I don’t think you need the word ‘daring’ if you use ‘trusted’ directly before it.
Yeah, I’d let the audience decide whether Poe’s mission is daring or not.
(as far as I’m concerned the ending “helicopter shot” is absolutely hideous. So cheap, so weird - looks like Luke is played by a dummy -, so out of place, so… dumb… I would completely remove it)
I don’t think it’s entirely out of place, but it doesn’t work well at the end. I made a mockup of how this scene might end differently, but it’s definitely outside the scope of this edit:
https://mega.nz/#!HN9U0DbA!Rf6CCKIlVMGYasEtMUv2MDXHRZitSEqaHQMRmjSrqEQ
http://www.theonion.com/article/white-house-staff-reminded-place-lids-firmly-trash-55168
hehehe.
The SKB sequence is complete, as far as I’m concerned, so it’s ready for final render 😃
On another note, the final shot of the film has bothered me since my first viewing, since it weaves and bobs drunkenly. I scaled it 107% and stabilized it: https://vimeo.com/201330286
Password: stable
Full quality:
https://mega.nz/#!bUVzlQ7Y!Sw0THl1J_Wtgtrq_bbTvydGVmAgNLBph959eCgMddVs
What do you think? I know it’s not strictly related to the edit. 😃
Carnosaur (1993)
This movie is the anti-Jurassic Park. Whereas Jurassic Park had innovative special effects, strong direction, great characters, damn good acting, and leaves the viewer in awe of the majesty of dinosaurs and nature herself, Carnosaur has effects which would’ve been laughable in the '70s, direction on auto pilot, paper-thin characters, tepid-to-poor acting, and leaves the viewer wanting to nuke the Earth just to cleanse the universe of the species which made this movie.
2/10
I’d hate to see what sort of cinematic abomination would make you give a movie 1/10.
Since I just noticed the sound on the last few viewings, I have the opposite reaction. It seems out of place to me.
I wonder if the uncomfortableness comes from there being only a wind sound and music in that place instead of sounds of planetary cataclysm. Perhaps a strong steam exhaust effect would also help. It aint over yet. 😃
https://vimeo.com/201235779
Password: sound
Okay, I’ve addressed the following issues:
- I think you can probably do a bit of a crossfade when Rey cries over Finn between the existing music and the new (rather than simply dropping out the existing music entirely)
- missing the sound as Rey drops on Finn
- bit of a rough audio edit when we cut to the closeup of the cockpit
- when they’re running to the Falcon, missing the sound of the Falcon door opening (and then the hiss when they’re boarding)
- missing the sound of the Falcon revving up when Finn is placed on the med bed
- also notice in the film how the sounds of the destruction of the planet slowly start to become louder as the Falcon takes off - rather than begin loud immediately at the start of the shot
- also the explosion sounds are sort of overpowering the music here, careful with that (explosions were definitely secondary to the music in the film’s mix)
The Falcon ramp sound doesn’t make much sense in its original placement, since I doubt Chewie would take the time to close the door behind him just to open it up moments later - after all, time is of the essence. I’ve placed it inside the Falcon, so presumably Rey is closing the door behind her. Since she is now at the door, it doesn’t make sense to have the Falcon revving sound since nobody is in the cockpit.
I’ll probably try to incorporate a bit more of your suggestions before final render as well.
Glad it’s only a couple of things 😉
I’ll take another stab at it, but keep in mind most of the sounds are replacements and it will only be an approximation.
Thanks, I’m glad it works! I played around with the 5.1 audio for the implosion in Audacity for a while, and if there’s a way to extract any of the explosions from the music without making sound like it’s underwater, it’s beyond my abilities. Some of the sound effects earlier in the scene benefit from being between musical notes, hence why I was able to keep them, but here the music saturates the effects.
Gotcha.
And, hey, it’s pretty great. In the interest of making it even better…
Could there be a ramp clattering and steam release sounds dropped in as Rey and Chewie head into the Falcon, perhaps? Also, and this might just be how it has to be to work, the music does a sing-song refrain of itself after the wipe back to the Resistance base, the second half of which is gone now. The second half of the sing-song thing occurs right after the first shot. Hope that makes sense.DAMN, you guys are awesome, coming out of the woodwork to spruce this thing up. I feel like I should be able to draw on a metaphor from fiction about this, something about people showing up out of nowhere to repair a broken house or something. I only embarked on this project because I wanted the end result to exist. Despite what you might infer about me from my behavior, editing is painful for me to do at times! I’m like Captain Kirk from that episode where his inner aggressive, decisive side was separated in a transporter accident. You all are my Spock and Bones.
You know, I just noticed the ramp sound effect in the original after rendering the latest version, so I’ll see if it can be put back in. As for the refrain, I think I know what you’re talking about, but I’m pretty sure all the notes are there. I shortened the first shot of the Resistance base but the second shot is the same length, and I overlaid the music over that so nothing should be missing.
Totally understand about the editing fatigue. I am doing this now because I need a break from the Technicolor project, but also because it’s a brilliant idea that makes the film better 😃
I’ve tweaked the levels of the sound effects and edited the Starkiller implosion. I think it’s rather an improvement, hopefully it is to everyone’s liking:
https://vimeo.com/201216702
Password: soundNOT BAD. It’s nothing if not seamless. Even if only tiny snippets of the original explosion foley can be salvaged from the fully baked soundtrack, even that would be great. I’m thinking about how the Phantom Editor subtly weaved together original vocals and his own voice for Zam Wessel as she was giving her last words.
Don’t get me wrong; as it is now, it’s perfectly usable. I was leaning toward not going with that idea (and sticking with stitched together music and leaving the existing effects in place), but you sold me.JEDIT: It’s only after doing a direct comparison to the original that I notice what you mean by removing cheers. I thought you clipped a shot, but no, you replaced the audio seamlessly and I didn’t have a clue. 😃
Thanks, I’m glad it works! I played around with the 5.1 audio for the implosion in Audacity for a while, and if there’s a way to extract any of the explosions from the music without making sound like it’s underwater, it’s beyond my abilities. Some of the sound effects earlier in the scene benefit from being between musical notes, hence why I was able to keep them, but here the music saturates the effects.
I’ve tweaked the levels of the sound effects and edited the Starkiller implosion. I think it’s rather an improvement, hopefully it is to everyone’s liking:
https://vimeo.com/201216702
Password: sound
That bootleg correction is very close to ideal, as far as I can tell.
Oh, it might actually have that capacity, I just avoid that effect because it’s been known to cause problems with my renders. If I were to do this project again I would definitely find a different software first.
Premiere doesn’t actually have that capacity either, the program I used for the LUT was Speedgrade. I’d just wait for a higher quality scan before considering a shot by shot project - it has a tendency to take over your life 😉
Idk why people are worried about Luke dying in future movies. If they kill Luke in TLJ (or later), they’ll surely Force Ghost him and he’ll still be there, just bluer and less opaque.
Luke as a Force Ghost would be cool, if it were to ever happen. As a Force Ghost, Luke would still be helping out with the knowledge he gained over the years. Though, he’d probably have Yoda on his back, because he’s training Luke, to perfect his Force Ghost.
Perfection.
