NeverarGreat

Hal, have you had time to reorder the Resistance scenes?

DrDre said:

Mavimao said:

DrDre said:

Mavimao said:

Williarob said:

Mavimao said:

If I’m not mistaken, if the Bluray were GOUT synced, one could apply these colors easily, right?

No, it’s not a matter of being sync’d. The GOUT appears to have had a single color correction applied to it, which allows us to apply a single LUT to correct the whole film. For example, if the GOUT is 10 points too red, it is 10 points too red on every frame, therefore we can apply a universal correction to reduce the red by 10 points and the whole film will look better.

On the blu-ray, the colors are all over the place, so this sort of universal correction will only improve some of the shots, while making others look worse. While the whole blu-ray can be greatly improved with a single LUT (as JawsTDS proves here http://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1042832, it would not be possible to match the colors of all the shots in a single pass).

No, I get that. What I’m saying is that I thought that Dr Dre was going to do a one pass LUT with the GOUT and THEN export a shot by shot LUT. With this shot by shot LUT, you can take any GOUT synced video file and have it come out like the technicolor.

Yes, that would certainly be possible, but you would also have to contend with many of the color issues (missing gradients, and is some cases missing colors), that NeverarGreat has tackled for his bluray regrade.

Right, gotcha. So your shot by shot LUT would work best on neutral scans so to speak?

As they say: garbage in is garbage out. The bluray is a big challenge due to the many issues with the bluray color grading. It’s no wonder NeverarGreat’s regrade is many years in the making. I suspect he would have been finished with it much earlier, if he didn’t have to fight an uphill battle.

Yeah, there is no easy way to fix the Blu-ray except for shot by shot. I tried for over a year to create a single LUT for the entire film, but once you account for every problematic color shift, the colors start to lose their natural variation and tend towards a few ‘safe’ gradients.

Even though R2 and C-3PO have been in Episodes 1-7, the purpose of using them as the audience point of view only really existed in the OT. The PT and TFA have mostly relegated them to the role of ‘lighthearted banter’. I see BB-8 fulfilling the audience POV role much more than the duo going forward.

suspiciouscoffee said:

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

I was listening to the Jedi soundtrack the other day, and I thought, “wouldn’t it be kind of quirky if we heard the soundtrack version of Lapti Nek playing in a bar or on the radio in a future Star Wars movie?” Like a polished, studio cover of the cult Max Rebo Band hit.

Not a movie, but they did that in Battlefront II way back whenever that was. It played somewhere in Mos Eisley. There’s nothing as great in that game as slaughtering your enemies left and right to the sound of Lapti Nek.

That’s definitely on my list of easter eggs and things to include if I’m ever in charge of a Star Wars movie.

Also on the list:

• Jaxxon
• Fake-out starfield at the opening (starfield not actually being a starfield, but something like this, as I almost thought might happen in TFA upon watching the trailer:

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One of my prequel scripts had the opening shot pan down from a ‘vast sea of lights’ onto a dark underground lake, with the bioluminescent algae from above reflected in its waters.

The continuity issue arises from the fact that during the briefing they reference ‘Snap’s reconnaissance data’, which implies he’s off getting that data during these scenes.

It’s normal speed, far as I can tell. Perhaps you’re feeling the brevity of the scene, which is why I tried to splice two scenes into one.

NeverarGreat said:
Also, there may be a way to rearrange the scenes in this area of the film for greater effect. If after ‘I need you to tell me all you know’ we cut to Rey’s interrogation, it continues that info-gathering theme. Then, since Kylo’s questions are about Luke’s location, cutting directly back to Leia examining BB-8’s map after Kylo’s temper tantrum continues the Luke theme. The Resistance base scenes continue until ‘The report on the enemy base is coming in’. Having Han and Leia’s talk about Kylo after he has just been unmasked may now have more emotional effect, since we can put a face to their discussion. Then we cut to Hux’s demonstration. The audience learns the capabilities of the weapon just as Leia does, and after this the film progresses as normal.

This has the added benefit of allowing for more time between Finn (presumably) telling Leia the location of the Starkiller and the reconnaissance flight which results in highly detailed scan data.

Considering this reordering, there is a potential place for the deleted scene directly after Kylo’s tantrum. Here is the work in progress placed at this point in the reordered scenes:
https://vimeo.com/202498216
Password: resist

JEDIT: Including Snap in the scene creates a continuity problem, so the first part may have to go.

http://www.theonion.com/article/fearful-americans-stockpiling-facts-federal-govern-55219

And they say satire is dead in this administration.

https://qz.com/898134/what-steve-bannon-really-wants/

A fascinating interpretation of Steve Bannon, now one of the most powerful men in the world.

DominicCobb said:

Look closely at the missile picture: http://web.archive.org/web/20170202210342/http://www.drudgereport.com/

I see nothing unusual about it except for the repeated bomb - bad photoshop work there.

That crawl is absolutely wonderful.

Tobar said:

DrDre said:

pittrek said:

Am I really the only one who LOVES the greens?

Nope, I love’m too. 😃

I just noticed that everyone behind Luke rolls their eyes at him, like, where were you when we were fighting the Empire, doing handstands with a frog?

Perhaps the reasoning behind Trump’s authoritarian actions is not so much that he is authoritarian as much as he is merely incapable of being a politician. Politicians such as George W Bush, Barack Obama, or Hillary Clinton moved to more moderate, centrist positions during their campaigns (there wasn’t far to go with Hillary), and the reason for this was to appeal to a broad swath of the electorate. That is the purely expedient reason for moderate positions, but from the standpoint of a professional politician, it is their job to represent all of their constituents. Certainly this gives rise to the caricature of the two-faced lying politician, but the profession of politics requires politicians to be all things for all people, at least in appearance. Donald Trump apparently doesn’t recognize this imperative, and appears to represent nobody except for his fanciful imaginary self. He is the product of a hyper-partisan political environment where being a standard politician is not just passe, it’s a death sentence. Now not only the Republicans, but also some Democrats are beginning to see that they will quickly find themselves out of a job if they make deals with ‘the other side’, regardless of how reasonable these deals may be.

In the broader sense, it’s frightening to someone like myself who leans liberal (along with about half of the country) to see the liberal voices in our government so completely out of power. It wasn’t always this way. Even back in the ancient past of the Obama administration, there was still an attempt by the majority party to achieve bipartisan support for legislation, even if the opposition stonewalled them at every turn.

On a state level, I would often research all of the candidates for North Carolina office, regardless of whether they had a D or an R next to their names. I even voted for a few Republicans based on their individual merits. However, since the power grab by the Republicans after the election of a democratic governor, I cannot in good conscience vote for anyone with an ‘R’ next to their name in a state election, if this is the Game of Thrones style politics that they employ. It saddens me to do this, and this has been happening throughout the country of late.

There is cause for optimism, perhaps. I hope that this hyperpartisanship, driven by extremely biased voters being fed by information echo chambers of their own creation, is merely the effect of the breakdown of the monolithic US media that began in the 50’s. People now know that they can choose their news outlets, their view of the world. There will always be bastions of ignorance and false narratives in this nation, there always have been. Conspiracy theories are sometimes right, such as the massive surveillance by the NSA which vindicated the tin-foil hat folks some years ago. The prevailing narrative is sometimes wrong, such as predictions of Hillary’s victory last year. But perhaps more people will become united in their understanding that ALL news is worthy of skepticism, and work together for a nuanced and mature understanding of issues.

Or we could just squabble over every slight and be filled with righteous indignation at everything ‘the other’ is doing to this great nation, thus justifying our own position. That’s cool too.

I don’t understand any of the decisions that were made.

I notice that even in the GOUT there is a lot of variation in the Death Star walls. I suppose this is further evidence that they were always inconsistent.

TV’s Frink said:

You guys are making all this up. None of it happened in Star Wars so it couldn’t have happened in The Rehash Awakens.

Now I want hash browns again.

On another note, I was thinking about how we really don’t get any Force abilities from Leia except with her reaction to Han’s death, so what if the crawl established that she was relying on her visions for knowledge of the Starkiller? This would give the Republic good reason to ignore her and think she was crazy:

Luke Skywalker has vanished. In his absence, the sinister FIRST ORDER has risen from the ashes of the fallen Empire with a weapon of unimaginable power.

Troubled by visions of devastation and ridiculed by the New Republic, General Leia Organa mobilizes a covert RESISTANCE with allies from across the galaxy.

Desperate for her brother’s help, Leia has sent her most trusted pilot on a daring mission to Jakku, where a clue has been discovered to Luke’s whereabouts…

It might be confusing, it was just a thought. This edit leaves some holes, and I’m not sure if there’s a way to fix all of them.

And it’s true, Poe’s attack is perfunctory, but it feels similar to Rey’s battle with Kylo. Han isn’t chained up somewhere while Kylo twirls his mustache and laughs maniacally, Han is dead. Rey really has no reason to fight Kylo other than he’s a threat that must be dealt with. All she has is vengeance and the will to survive, there is no way to win everything. Both Rey and Poe can only hope for a Pyrrhic victory at this point.

I would cut as much of Poe’s trench run as possible, to both cut down on ANH references and to downplay the perfunctory nature of the mission.

It’s intended to be a surprise to the Resistance, certainly. But remember, the briefing scene comes directly after Hux’s psychotic rant against the Republic and the senate in particular. So in juxtaposing two conflicting pieces of information, the audience will hopefully understand that the Republic is always the true target, with the Resistance deliberately misinformed so as to lull the Republic into a false sense of security.

As for the problem with blowing up the Starkiller, I assumed that it would have multiple uses after absorbing the star, it is logical to destroy the planet. Also, nobody has called off the Resistance attack, and why would they? Even if the planet had no further shots to fire, there is still a massive amount of FO equipment there.

I see a problem with this edit as it stands now. Since the Republic still stands after the Resistance learns of the Starkiller and its capabilities, there should be some scene where the Resistance warns the Republic, or at least makes some mention of their danger. Otherwise, it seems like the Resistance is extremely negligent in their duties and allows for this atrocity to unfold at such an epic scale. At the very least, if the Republic thought that it was in danger, they would have evacuated the government to a secret location.

There may be a way to easily fix this, however. During the Resistance briefing scene, simply re-insert the line from Leia that ‘our system is the target’ (eliminate ‘next’, obviously). This way, the Republic will assume that the First Order means only to destroy Leia and the Resistance, a group that the Republic dislikes anyway. Then we could record a line that is said by someone in the crowd to the effect of ‘The Republic won’t help us!’, and then re-insert C-3PO’s line: ‘Without the Republic fleet, we’re done for!’.

It’s good. 😃

@sirRidley, yes, the Poe was in motion during ‘weapon’, so there’s little I could do to make that sharper. I tried to make ‘the weapon’ into ‘a weapon’, but it sounded unnatural and I realized that he basically does say ‘a’ since the ‘th’ part is blended with the ‘with’ sound.

Jetrell Fo said:

http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/01/31/new-video-shows-planned-parenthood-staffers-saying-they-only-do-ultrasounds-for-abortions/

Anyone see this? I’m looking to see if there is any further info on it.

I don’t know the policy of Planned Parenthood regarding ultrasounds, but it sounds like they are required when having an abortion. I don’t see how this is particularly shocking, but again I don’t know. The comments on the website certainly give me pause.

There’s so much that people assume that they must accomplish/be in a lifetime that it’s good to sometimes consider the only real imperative there is. Anything after that is a bonus, in my book.

Humby said:

I think ‘The Last Jedi’ refers to Luke abandoning the conceptual ideals of the Jedi, which is what led to their downfall in the first place (and possibly what led to his failure with Ben and the loss of his students).

Luke will be the Last Jedi because he abandons those ideals when he trains Rey. Rey’s training will embrace both the dark and the light, but only in an attempt to do what is right and just. We saw him sort of embrace that in ROTJ, and maybe that scared him, but after losing all of his students and reexamineing the ideals of past Jedi, he realizes that suppressing the dark side isn’t the best way to go. So he teaches Rey to embrace love, and to accept possesion and attachment as a natural part of life and the force.

So he, in the end, truly is the last Jedi. That would be a good way to both acknowledge the prequels, but also distance itself from them.

But I do think he will at least make it to Episode IX

If this is how it shakes out, Ep 8 may become one of my favorite Star Wars films. I just hope we’re not building a brilliant movie in our heads only to find out that there’s nothing more to it than Luke deciding not to train Rey. Keep those expectations low!

Bah, I’ve worked for hours on this, and nothing fits. It’s fine though, I’ve realized that ‘Finn’s familiar with the weapon system, he worked on the base’ is audibly identical to ‘Finn’s familiar with a weapon system, he worked on the base’.

So I’m fine with leaving it as it is, and leave it up to interpretation as to whether or not Leia was aware of its existence before this moment.