NeverarGreat

DominicCobb said:

Judge said:

For one, I get the feeling that this film will totally ruin Han’s arc in ANH. He goes from “cynical smuggler who cares only about himself” to “rogue who sacrifices his own interests to save his friends” in the course of the film. That’s his character. If they try and make Han out to be a good guy in the standalone movie (which they will; this is Disney we’re talking about here) it will spoil his character progression. This will make his whole subplot in ANH completely pointless.

Han is a good guy deep down though, I think that’s always been there. They shouldn’t forget his arc in SW but they shouldn’t make him a complete dick either.

And I think we can put aside all that “this is Disney” bullshit by now.

Secondly, Emilia Clarke. I am not being at all hyperbolic when I say she is the worst actress who has ever lived.

I’m no Clarke fan, but yeah, this is absolutely hyperbolic.

Indeed, people sometimes forget that Han’s arc is more of a slow reveal of the man beneath the ‘tough-guy smuggler’ mask.

All of these exhumations for new stories - from Creepy Puppet Yoda to CGI Tarkin to Nu-Jabba - were all flashing red lights indicating the need for new characters. Not that I have anything against bringing them back, but at some point it becomes easier to just write around them and give us something new instead of attempting to live up to unassailable performances of old.

imperialscum said:

DominicCobb said:

Lucas thought ESB should have been made worse for less money. He got his way the next time around.

I highly doubt he thought that. I see you are completely detached from reality like the guy in the other thread (http://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1050968). Budget/time constraints are there for a reason - not to bankrupt. He most likely wanted to make as good film as possible within the given budget/time constraints. For that you need a director who can make great shots in minimum amount of time.

And your statement is especially stupid, considering Lucas put everything he had into the film. The evidence of that is that he had to go to Fox for extra 10 Million after it went over schedule/budget.

Making of Return of the Jedi is a great read and lays out how Lucas went about cutting corners on the film. At one point during the filming of the Sarlacc fight the crew brought him an animatronic tentacle to use, but he had specified that a simple rubber tentacle would suffice, and so he refused to use the clearly superior prop to make a point. It seems petty and counterproductive now, and some of the effects could have used more than matte paintings, but it did keep costs down.

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I can only speak for the things I’ve found, but this one’s definitely a Deliberate Creative Decision:

What’s happening here is that there is a noticeable increase in brightness between the first and final frames of this shot, as if someone thought ‘hey, the door is opening but it’s not getting bright enough inside’. The SSE shows no increased brightness.

The post about the Falcon flash frame may be deliberate, but I’d guess that it was just a mistake.

We determined that the missing laser bolts in the X-Wing cockpit were erased by the algorithm used to clean the SSE, so not a creative decision.

A comparison of reel 2 part 1:
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Since the binary sunset closeup was the only shot in my project to conform to the '77 version instead of the SE because of the degraded source, I decided to recreate the SE change using the Silver Screen Edition footage. At least this way it is true to the spirit of the Special Edition.

JEDIT (5-18-17): I adjusted the dinner scene, here’s the updated video:
https://mega.nz/#!LJ8gmJrS!wRlDcUAS1ZwtSu5kd05DrnAjKNeBFyhJdsiB0f8efiM

Since the SE got a theatrical release, this could be technically accurate if they actually changed the video to the '97 version, which I’m sure they haven’t done.

doubleofive said:

Inspired by Empire Magazine actually referencing my images in their “Complete List Of Star Wars Changes”, I started a twitter account to hightlight some of the changes.

Nice, I’m glad you’re trying to increase SE literacy. It helps us all in this fight 😃

Bty, I noticed that you haven’t included the most recent changes that I have documented in this thread. Are you planning to update your list to include them?

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

NeverarGreat said:

TV’s Frink said:

TV’s Frink said:

TV’s Frink said:

Come on, no one would be stupid enough to name a Star Wars character “Kale.”

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Kale_Roshuir

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Kale_Longo

Oh.

Guys, Frink is talking to himself again.

There’s much more exciting stuff happening in the forum right now.

Well duh, but that’s off topic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duGqrYw4usE

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TV’s Frink said:

TV’s Frink said:

TV’s Frink said:

Come on, no one would be stupid enough to name a Star Wars character “Kale.”

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Kale_Roshuir

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Kale_Longo

Oh.

Guys, Frink is talking to himself again.

“You just won’t believe how much we’ll destroy the Republic. We’ll destroy it bigly, let me tell you. And I gotta say, this machine is tremendous, you know? Just tremendous. The Senate lies so much, it’s just constant lying. You know, it’s the enemy of the people. I really believe that. Let me say one good thing about them though. Their fleet puts ours to shame. But I gotta tell you, people, it won’t stay like that for long. We’re gonna have the best fleet, and it’s gonna happen immediately. Just you watch. This is the last day of the Republic, and we’re gonna start winning in the galaxy again, and make the Empire great again.”

DuracellEnergizer said:

Spending money on a book only to find out you don’t like it always sucks.

yeah, I got The Book of the New Sun last year or the year before and couldn’t make it through the second volume. There’s something nice about an unfinished book though, since you can imagine any wild and spectacular ending. That’s why I don’t have much guilt at leaving less than enthralling books unfinished - at least there is that mystery.

I was testing the Optical Flow settings in Premiere 2017, and didn’t separate two of the shots first. This is the result:


I can also report that JJ’s camera movement does not agree with this setting in general.

Haarspalter said:

Ani VS Aliens

The concept is dumb, but the rendering is quite lovely. I especially like the impressionistic pointed lightsaber.

MathUser said:

Rey’s arms make me physically uncomfortable.

Sir Ridley said:

NeverarGreat said:

I know that Sir Ripley was working on removing the timecode from the deleted scene so that it could be useable in this edit. Apart from that, I don’t know what the decision was on the Finn line edit. It can be rendered in full quality as well if there’s interest in using it.

Right, I haven’t tried much yet but I think it will be doable. Which Finn line do you mean, the one where Poe mentions the weapon system?

That’s the one.

SilverWook said:

Mithrandir said:

I think George’s worst decission was not to trust himself enough.

Unlike what most of people think, at times (and only at times) I believe he failed on looking and caring way too much what other people (the industry) was doing when he engaged the prequels. The chosen one thing was taken from Matrix. The Coliseum in AOTC from Gladiator. Qui Gonn came out of someone’s suggestion.

In his initial schemes for TPM back in '97, the Jedi duo was supposed to be ObiWan and a teen Anakin. Had it gone that way without caring about loosing market (sorry, audience) with Matrix or Lord of the Rings, the PT would have turned out a better arc. But from there on, a chain reaction of bad choices took place, of which Jar Jar was just the least important (though perhaps the most evident) of all (if there was no baby Anakin, there was no need of going to Tatooine, or at least not in the same terms where comic releaf was needed to make a light-hearted middle act in a dull desert planet).

There are chosen one types in ancient mythology though, and Edgar Rice Burroughs was having John Carter battle Martians in a gladitorial arena over a century ago. So much has been outright lifted from ERB’s books, that when Disney made John Carter, it seemed like a rehash of those concepts to the uninitiated.

I don’t know about the casting of kid Anakin, since any reasonable director who was listening to the input of writers/fans/other people in general, would have gone with the troubled teenager from the first draft. I suspect that George wanted to be edgy and buck the expectation with his casting of Jake Lloyd as the most Leave It To Beaver innocent youth he could find. I believe his stated reason was that Darth Vader is only a tragic tale if he begins as an inherently good person who is nevertheless corrupted by evil, and if that story were well told, it could have been true. However, child Anakin has little relation to teenage Anakin, who has little relation to Darth Vader. It is a bridge too far, and what really felled Lucas was an inability to recognize and correct his directoral deficiencies.

C-3PO: Ms. Organa, you’re trying to seduce me. Aren’t you?

Lord Haseo said:

It seems like Roman Numeral comprehension went way down between 2008 and 2013.

Either that or the developer’s condescension went way up.

I know that Sir Ripley was working on removing the timecode from the deleted scene so that it could be useable in this edit. Apart from that, I don’t know what the decision was on the Finn line edit. It can be rendered in full quality as well if there’s interest in using it.

JawsTDS said:

NeverarGreat said:

JawsTDS said:

DominicCobb said:

JawsTDS said:

DominicCobb said:

JawsTDS said:

Tobar said:

KumoNin said:

(SORT OF SPOILERS FOR SW:BLOODLINE MAYBE)

Having just finished reading Bloodline, I’ve only just realised it was Korrie who Leia sends to her vainful death…

It’s a shame they cut this scene.

J.J. prioritized ‘fan service’ over effectiveness.

What? I think this is proof of the opposite.

He wanted Leia to appear at a certain moment in the film, for maximum “nostalgia” effect. Thus, important scenes like this were left on the cutting room floor.

Maximum nostalgia or not, that was the most effective place to put her introduction. I think having her in the film from the start would have been fan service when she only becomes important to the story halfway through.

That being said, I think Leia’s introduction in the final cut is perfect, but we lost scenes that could have provided much needed context.

Is that context really necessary for this film though? Whether the Resistance has the full support of the Republic isn’t something that really affects the story of TFA in any significant way.

Not to say there couldn’t or shouldn’t have been more context, but it wasn’t worth sacrificing the pacing and structure of the film just for the sake of these Resistance scenes.

I’d say it does need context, especially since this cut scene shows us Korrie’s relationship with Leia. In the final cut we only see her being vaporized, with no idea who she was.

That was my biggest gripe with TFA - there was no thorough explanation as to who was doing what in the New Republic. It is just miraculously destroyed… again.

TFA Restructured v2 may re-incorporate this scene into the Resistance Base, which would make it my go-to version of the film.

Still need to watch the first version, as I hear it really fixes up the final act of the film. If that scene can somehow be wedged into the film, I’ll definitely give it a watch.

We are working hard to make it so.

It is a pain. I’ve only just gotten the major editing software and plugins installed, and am kicking myself for not backing things up more frequently.

The lack of such a feature is becoming quite the headache in the preservation forum.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0KMUZSVAqw

During the Tusken Raider scene, I had the admittedly stupid idea to edit the Blu-ray rocks as a form of R2’s holographic projection system in an attempt to better camouflage himself.

It’s sad that even this would be better than the Blu-ray.