NeverarGreat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QamKKdblpw

An interesting idea, albeit padded.

Slavicuss said:

Jeebus said:

Yarael Poof

Yeah, that’s the guy. That really does look sh*t.

Them’s fightin’ words.

Disco_Lobot said:

NeverarGreat said:

Disco_Lobot said:

darthrush said:

Best video I have ever seen when it comes to the dissection of the new disney films.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsIQa7sH5_Y

By his standard Ripley and Sarah Connor are passive protagonists

Both of those protagonists’ first films were on the horror side of Sci-fi, which is all about having things happen to them until they take action to defeat the threat.

It’s notable that their second films (Terminator 2 and Aliens) are much more conventional action films, allowing the protagonists to be very active.

Come on, that’s just special pleading. There are countless movies where things happen to the protagonist that they have no control over. All that matters is whether it’s well done or not. I mean think mow many origin stories involve something happening to the protagonist that serves as an inspiration for later action. Heck, Luke Skywalker was pretty damn passive until his parents got incinerated.

I don’t think the guy was trying to hate on anything, but some of his points were just silly.

Luke is passive for much of the runtime of Star Wars, but he’s still an active protagonist. There are really only 2 major actions that he takes without coercion: rescuing the princess and joining the Rebellion. However, these two actions drive the last half of the film, and that’s the point. There are often limited opportunities for the protagonist to take action, so those few actions must be consequential, and in Star Wars, they are.

In Alien, Ripley is in command throughout the second half of the film and continually drives the plot through her decisions (learning about the Company’s plans, confronting Ash, deciding to abandon ship, and most importantly overcoming her fear and using ingenuity to defeat the alien at the end). And it’s not special pleading to say that this is a horror film, since almost all horror films are designed so that the antagonist has the upper hand with the hero on the defensive for most of the runtime. The same can be said for Terminator.

With regards to Jyn and Rey, they are often passive protagonists because the few active character moments they share do not drive the remaining action, at least in the case of Rey. Jyn’s (somewhat confused) decision to get the Death Star plans galvanizes the entire Rebellion into action, which is a very active role but a bit late in the story. She really needed a decision in the 2nd act which was more impactful to the plot, like Luke’s rescue of Leia. In the case of TFA, Finn takes the active role in rescuing Rey and becomes the protagonist for almost the entire Starkiller plot, at least until Rey retrieves the lightsaber. I do not count her mind trick, since although it is an active choice, it doesn’t drive the plot - Finn could have almost as easily rescued her and arrived at the same place.

Disco_Lobot said:

darthrush said:

Best video I have ever seen when it comes to the dissection of the new disney films.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsIQa7sH5_Y

By his standard Ripley and Sarah Connor are passive protagonists

Both of those protagonists’ first films were on the horror side of Sci-fi, which is all about having things happen to them until they take action to defeat the threat.

It’s notable that their second films (Terminator 2 and Aliens) are much more conventional action films, allowing the protagonists to be very active.

rodneyfaile said:

It’s just so unbelievable in The Empire a Strikes back when Luke makes the lighsaber come to him in the wampa’s cave. I mean, he didn’t see anyone do that and wasn’t trained on it by Obi Wan. I wonder why they decided to make him so overpowered?

1. He was already established as being strong in the Force from ANH, and it had been several years since that. It would be stranger if he hadn’t progressed at all on his own.

2. This was early in the movie, where the filmmakers were re-establishing our leads and giving us an idea about how they had changed. Such a scene is essential character work.

3. The music and cinematography sold the fact that something impressive and magical was going on.

SilverWook said:

I kind of like it. It’s got a 30’s Flash Gordon/Buck Rogers vibe to it.

I usually like references to Flash Gordon, such as the Nubian Yacht:


But in this case the gun doesn’t work for me.

SilverWook said:

NeverarGreat said:

What’s she holding, a Noisy Cricket?

I feel like she’s gonna break that thing.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Model_Q2_hold-out_blaster_pistol

That’s one ugly gun.

I love that.

scotchka said:

I’d report this guy too. He’s made thousands off these:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/STAR-WARS-DESPECIALIZED-UNALTERED-ORIGINAL-TRILOGY-THEATRICAL-WIDESCREEN-HD-/142364514216?hash=item21259617a8:g:JCQAAOSw2gxY2Ah2

http://www.ebay.com/itm/STAR-WARS-DESPECIALIZED-UNALTERED-ORIGINAL-TRILOGY-THEATRICAL-WIDESCREEN-HD/142344671770

Done and done.

This is a fascinating project. We will follow your progress with great interest.

It’s amazing how many commenters here respond in all seriousness to tongue-in-cheek suggestions.

Those look really good. The green lightsaber looks a little wide and goofy, but it was sort of like that in the original, just now the green draws the eye right to it.

It’s been over a year since the movie came out, so just about everyone’s given their review. All that’s left are the inevitable discursive posts investigating the minutia.

What’s she holding, a Noisy Cricket?

I feel like she’s gonna break that thing.

One issue with this extra scene is that if it is placed right before the Han/Kylo meetup, Leia should be telling them to evacuate the system immediately, since it’s too late for any backup to arrive in time. With that in mind, the official could head her off at the pass:

“This is Chancellor Lanever Villecham…”

“General, are you seeing this?”

“…I’m sorry General, but the Senate has decided to retain the fleet in case evacuations are deemed necessary.”

“Oh my, without the Republic Fleet we’re doomed!”

Any senator would do, but it might be neat to have the Chancellor of the New Republic speak before he’s incinerated.

JEDIT: Or perhaps, since we’re cutting several shots out of the Starkiller firing sequence, we could fill those gaps with the aforementioned receival of the Chancellor’s message. The sounds at the Resistance base could be muted and slowed down, as everyone listens to the last words from the Hosnian system. The speech could then overlap the shots of the system being destroyed, and be something particularly gut wrenching like ‘I have complete faith in your Resistance, and in you, your highness’.

bkev said:

Can’t speak for the reframing, but can’t compression cause changes in brightness? That doesn’t look like the sharpest stream and I’m guessing that’s an issue with the connection rather than the source file.

Compression can average the detail, making small sections of the image look brighter than normal, but there’s definitely extra brightening in the center of the image.

Done.

Why would that matter, if you don’t seem to care one way or another? Just leave it blank.

“Photo”

I guess I should read Bloodlines then 😛

However, even if half the senators secretly support the First Order, the fact that they are trying to incinerate them and the planet around them should make them reconsider their allegiance. They might have been the ones making the Senate drag their feet on getting back to Leia, so what if the dialogue goes like this:

“There is strong opposition your request, General, but give the Senate more time and I’m sure we can get you your fleet.”

Jeebus said:

Amano said:

Jeebus said:
He’s a Kaleesh that was transformed into a cyborg. Pretty much the only parts that remain of his original body are his eyes, brain, and the rest of his organs.

OK. Basically another Vader with more stuff damaged/replaced. Since the lung obviously doesn’t work properly either, I would have replaced that as well.

If the lung itself is the force bearer that might be the reason to keep it.

Silly, but… well.

He’s not force sensitive, so that’s a good point. It’s clear the lung wasn’t working correctly, so they should’ve replaced it.

After they got done operating on him the first time and wheeled him in front of a mirror, he probably decided then and there to avoid any more surgical procedures at all costs.

darth_ender said:

Bearing in mind that I voted third party and don’t regret that decision…

Are we willing to let Trump evolve?

It’s abundantly clear that the majority of Americans have no say as to what Trump can or cannot do.

I’m not sure how much better I can make this line, so for now this is where it stays:
https://vimeo.com/215060086
Password: ren

Amano said:

I still cannot believe that Kennedy buries the original cut of Star Wars while celebrating the 40th anniversary of said cut.

That would be a sad anniversary (with the passing of the jubilarian), indeed.

(My first post btw, I am a very long time lurker in these forums and just found the motivation to register. Living in Austria, Europe. A big hello to everybody.)

Yes, welcome to our wretched hive of scum and villainy. In another forum, it was customary to offer new members the Fishy Stick, but for this forum a care package would be more appropriate 😉

All we would need to find is an official-sounding person to record the dialogue 😉

Perhaps something more like: “The Senate just voted, and you have our full support. However, it will take some time to ready the fleet.”