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#1072568
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My Idea for a SW Show set between RotJ and TFA.
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Interesting idea. You’ve gotten me thinking about the sort of show I’d like to see…

I imagine a show about a group of biologists/archaeologists who went to an alien world to study a long dead civilization, and were eventually stranded there. The show focuses on them and their families, who have been living among the ruins of this once-vast civilization for untold generations, fending off attacks by strange yet intelligent creatures from neighboring planets in the system, and attempting to find a way back to the Old Republic.

One of the big mysteries of the show is how long they’ve been stranded, since they were stranded centuries before the Empire or New Republic. The tone is very much a Flash Gordon serial with a greater emphasis on alien science and the magic of the Force. Everything remains used-universe, such as the remaining supplies of the humans, but the alien worlds contain vast, Akira-esque spaces and strange technology.

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#1072280
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The Force Awakens: Starlight (V1.1 Released!)
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^Exactly 😃 I rather hoped that the strength of that idea overcame the deficiency of its execution, but I see that more work is needed.

Hal 9000 said:

NeverarGreat said:

Snoke: "…the new Jedi will rise."
Kylo: "And FN-2187?.."
Hux: "Supreme Leader, I take full responsibility…"
Snoke: "GENERAL! Our strategy must now change."
Hux: “The weapon is ready. The time has come to use it…”

If your edit, based on TFA:Restructured, moves the SKB plot around, would such a conversation be appropriate for the first Snoke scene? As it is, the weapon isn’t brought up until the second Snoke scene.

I had forgotten that. Restructured makes sense in this regard, but since I’m moving the first Snoke scene to just after Leia’s introduction, Snoke’s dialogue about the droid being taken to the Resistance implies that he knows all about Kylo’s new plans for Rey. And since he knows about that, Hux’s appearance in the second Snoke scene is cut, leaving no place for Starkiller talk.

Some of this was said earlier, but I prefer this order because it:

  1. Makes Snoke into a more informed, competent villain
  2. preserves the Kylo revelation until as late as possible
  3. Makes sense of Hux and Kylo’s movements, since they should have been tracking the Falcon instead of hanging out at the base
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#1072201
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The Force Awakens: Starlight (V1.1 Released!)
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Starless Starkiller Firing

JEDIT: version 2: https://mega.nz/#!nANTQIyA!GIPUDnr6LBjarR0PegKZ7j-kQqIvTX5E1N1R6fDDsZY

In tangentially related thoughts, I just realized that Hux’s hand was forced with the defection of Finn - he had to use the weapon before the Republic evacuated the Hosnian system. I wish this was better explained in the film. If during the first Snoke scene Kylo mentioned the defection of FN-2187, it would better explain Snoke’s freakout:

Snoke: "…the new Jedi will rise."
Kylo: "And FN-2187?.."
Hux: "Supreme Leader, I take full responsibility…"
Snoke: "GENERAL! Our strategy must now change."
Hux: “The weapon is ready. The time has come to use it…”

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#1072171
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Explain Your Username / Avatar / Title / Signature
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Username: A slightly ironic misspelling of Nerevar (+ the word Great) from The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind, which was carried over from the Elder Scrolls forums. Not super applicable here, but it serves.

Avatar: At the moment, it is a strangely happy stormtrooper from a Japanese artwork.

Signature: The quote by Duracell is from when he was commenting on ATMachine’s bizarre posts, and I liked it so much that it’s been there ever since.
Also self-promotion, of course. 😃

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#1071739
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4K restoration on Star Wars
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Depheros said:

joefavs said:

DrDre said:
Practically nobody is interested in a special special edition.

Based on Reddit, more people are interested in this than the OUT. Every time I see the subject of the different cuts come up anywhere other than here, someone inevitably says some variation of “the unaltered versions would be nice, but I’d rather they just get rid of the bad changes and update the CGI for the rest so that it will match the new movies”, and then everyone else upvotes it.

This is why I can’t stand the Star Wars reddit. It’s full of PT and SE worshippers who won’t stop posting about their tattoos and stick figure families. I see tons of people on there saying “most of the changes were great, just get rid of Greedo shooting and it will be perfect.”

I can understand their sentiment. After all, with Mike Verta’s project completed the original Star Wars has been well restored, and the original elements to the other two are in far better shape. The OOT will eventually be released, if not by Disney then by obsessive fans. If Disney wants to completely update the SE for a new generation, that would be par for the course with what we’ve gotten previously and continue the tradition of trying to keep these films relevant to the masses. It’s actually a fascinating experiment which has been going on since '77, and a part of me is saddened that Disney won’t continue that. I suspect that if there weren’t constant revisions, The OT would be increasingly be seen as a cultural artifact today, rather than a part of an ongoing story. The only reason I’m against the SE is that the OOT isn’t officially available.

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#1071737
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The Force Awakens: Starlight (V1.1 Released!)
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Despite my rather lengthy cutlist and my vendetta against the name ‘Snoke’, this edit doesn’t really remove things from what I consider to be a movie already cut to the bone. The main focus is on adding or expanding on character moments, in order to more fully flesh out the world. So many of these suggestions would be rather incompatible with the purpose of the edit.

Also, I’m planning on keeping almost all of the Rathtar footage in the movie, just not in the places you’d expect 😉

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#1071629
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General Star Wars <strong>Random Thoughts</strong> Thread
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Disco_Lobot said:

NeverarGreat said:

Disco_Lobot said:

darthrush said:

Best video I have ever seen when it comes to the dissection of the new disney films.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsIQa7sH5_Y

By his standard Ripley and Sarah Connor are passive protagonists

Both of those protagonists’ first films were on the horror side of Sci-fi, which is all about having things happen to them until they take action to defeat the threat.

It’s notable that their second films (Terminator 2 and Aliens) are much more conventional action films, allowing the protagonists to be very active.

Come on, that’s just special pleading. There are countless movies where things happen to the protagonist that they have no control over. All that matters is whether it’s well done or not. I mean think mow many origin stories involve something happening to the protagonist that serves as an inspiration for later action. Heck, Luke Skywalker was pretty damn passive until his parents got incinerated.

I don’t think the guy was trying to hate on anything, but some of his points were just silly.

Luke is passive for much of the runtime of Star Wars, but he’s still an active protagonist. There are really only 2 major actions that he takes without coercion: rescuing the princess and joining the Rebellion. However, these two actions drive the last half of the film, and that’s the point. There are often limited opportunities for the protagonist to take action, so those few actions must be consequential, and in Star Wars, they are.

In Alien, Ripley is in command throughout the second half of the film and continually drives the plot through her decisions (learning about the Company’s plans, confronting Ash, deciding to abandon ship, and most importantly overcoming her fear and using ingenuity to defeat the alien at the end). And it’s not special pleading to say that this is a horror film, since almost all horror films are designed so that the antagonist has the upper hand with the hero on the defensive for most of the runtime. The same can be said for Terminator.

With regards to Jyn and Rey, they are often passive protagonists because the few active character moments they share do not drive the remaining action, at least in the case of Rey. Jyn’s (somewhat confused) decision to get the Death Star plans galvanizes the entire Rebellion into action, which is a very active role but a bit late in the story. She really needed a decision in the 2nd act which was more impactful to the plot, like Luke’s rescue of Leia. In the case of TFA, Finn takes the active role in rescuing Rey and becomes the protagonist for almost the entire Starkiller plot, at least until Rey retrieves the lightsaber. I do not count her mind trick, since although it is an active choice, it doesn’t drive the plot - Finn could have almost as easily rescued her and arrived at the same place.

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#1071598
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General Star Wars <strong>Random Thoughts</strong> Thread
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Disco_Lobot said:

darthrush said:

Best video I have ever seen when it comes to the dissection of the new disney films.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsIQa7sH5_Y

By his standard Ripley and Sarah Connor are passive protagonists

Both of those protagonists’ first films were on the horror side of Sci-fi, which is all about having things happen to them until they take action to defeat the threat.

It’s notable that their second films (Terminator 2 and Aliens) are much more conventional action films, allowing the protagonists to be very active.

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#1070932
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The Force Awakens: Official Review Thread - ** SPOILERS **
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rodneyfaile said:

It’s just so unbelievable in The Empire a Strikes back when Luke makes the lighsaber come to him in the wampa’s cave. I mean, he didn’t see anyone do that and wasn’t trained on it by Obi Wan. I wonder why they decided to make him so overpowered?

  1. He was already established as being strong in the Force from ANH, and it had been several years since that. It would be stranger if he hadn’t progressed at all on his own.

  2. This was early in the movie, where the filmmakers were re-establishing our leads and giving us an idea about how they had changed. Such a scene is essential character work.

  3. The music and cinematography sold the fact that something impressive and magical was going on.

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#1070849
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Star Wars Despecialized Editions - Custom Bluray Set (Released)
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scotchka said:

I’d report this guy too. He’s made thousands off these:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/STAR-WARS-DESPECIALIZED-UNALTERED-ORIGINAL-TRILOGY-THEATRICAL-WIDESCREEN-HD-/142364514216?hash=item21259617a8:g:JCQAAOSw2gxY2Ah2

http://www.ebay.com/itm/STAR-WARS-DESPECIALIZED-UNALTERED-ORIGINAL-TRILOGY-THEATRICAL-WIDESCREEN-HD/142344671770

Done and done.