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#1104789
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Star Wars: A (formerly?) 3-in-1 fanedit of the Original Trilogy (* unfinished project *)
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I assume you’re focusing on Luke for this edit, so anything not involving Luke could be cut. This includes Leia’s scenes in ANH, Han and Leia in ESB, and Han, Leia, Lando in ROTJ.
ANH would work if the last we saw of Leia until the rescue was her being marched away on the Tantive.

Potential Cuts to ANH:

After crashing on Tatooine and remarking on its desolateness, Threepio could see the sandcrawler in the distance and call for help, thus skipping all of the meandering droid activity. You’d probably have to edit out the large skeleton for continuity.

To take out the Imperial Conference scene, you could hold the Homestead kitchen scene until after Ben’s Hut, so it’s Ben’s Hut - Homestead kitchen - Sandcrawler Destruction -(wipe to)- Burning Homestead -(Wipe to)- Return to Sandcrawler.

You could remove the Han/Greedo scene as well, just cut from ‘Get back to the ship, get it ready’ to ‘Okay I’ll take it’.

Taking out the destruction of Alderaan would require some tricky editing, but you could have it work by placing the chess game right after the jump to hyperspace. Then Obi-wan feels a disturbance in the Force, and Han enters the scene.

You could cut the Trash Compactor scene entirely. Just cut from Han jumping into the compactor to Obi-wan at the tractor beam control, then back to Luke and friends toweling off outside the compactor. While you’re at it, you could cut right from ‘you’re braver than I thought’ to a shortened Obi-Vader lightsaber battle, then right back to our heroes after they’ve regrouped across from the ship.

Potential cuts to ESB

Cut the Wampa cave and Han’s search for Luke. Luke is attacked and knocked off his Tauntan, but remains in the snow until Obi-wan’s Ghost shows up. Then Han shows up and in the next scene Luke is in the Bacta, presumably rescued that night. This removes the Han/Leia bickering as well.

Cut a lot of the Walker Battle. Keep it from Luke’s perspective, with minimal cutaways to other actors.

Cut the asteroids entirely. After Han discovers the Hyperdrive malfunction, he turns the ship around and immediately lands it on the back of the Star Destroyer. During this time, the two of them can share a kiss.

If you wanted to get artistic, you could show brief snippets of Han and Leia’s misadventures in Cloud City as Luke is in a Jedi Trance (3PO being blown up, Han being tortured and put in Carbon Freeze, Leia looking frightened in the direction of Darth Vader). If we weren’t shown anything about Lando or Cloud City beforehand, we are left in suspense about what is actually happening to Luke’s friends. The first time we visit Cloud City is with Luke.

Cut Yoda’s ‘There is another’ line.

Shorten Luke vs Vader by removing the bit where Vader throws things at Luke.

Potential cuts to ROTJ

Move Yoda’s death to before Tatooine. This is why Luke is taking so long to get there. His speech ends with ‘Pass on what you have learned’. Cut Obi-wan’s ghost.

Keep the Droids entering Jabba’s Palace. Chewie is already captured, as per 3PO’s dialogue. Show Leia trying to rescue Han after the droids are captured, and then Luke can arrive. Cut the Rancor scene - Jabba has decided that they will all die simply because Leia ruined his favorite decoration. Anything not directly relating to Luke is cut.

Cut Leia’s first scene with Wicket. Shorten the fire-building scene by having 3PO’s Godlike pronouncements work the first time, then cut directly to his story. Shorten Luke and Leia’s conversation.

Cut most of the ground battle and the attack on the Death Star. The focus should be on Luke vs Vader.

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#1104691
Topic
Color matching and prediction: color correction tool v1.3 released!
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This glitching in the highlight areas has always been a problem, and is a big reason I never used this method in in my project. The artifacts look similar to artifacts generated by Photoshop’s Hue/Saturation tool, where shifting the hue of a particular color runs into problems when it encounters high luminosity or low saturation areas. These areas are shifted to the same extent as saturated midtones, leading to blocks of darker or lighter colors in almost colorless walls or skies. I don’t know if this is what the problem is in this case, but perhaps the program would benefit from an algorithm which takes this into account and shifts color less and less as the luminosity approaches 255 or 0 and the saturation approaches 0.

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#1104666
Topic
Revenge of the Sith (The New Canon Cut) [ON HOLD INDEFINITELY]
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Here it is:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B3vKx1Rq8-zRRmE3N2xzbS1iUEU
If you get the free trial of Premiere CC, it has the ability to create a LUT from the file (File > Export > Color Lookup Tables). I only have CS6, which is why I can’t do it myself.
JEDIT: Updated the file so that the shadows aren’t quite as strong.
JEDIT2: New version: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B3vKx1Rq8-zRdGNEZnBlYXN6MjA
JEDIT3: Final Version: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B3vKx1Rq8-zRVjlwLTRwMnIzOEU
http://www.framecompare.com/image-compare/screenshotcomparison/2CNNN8TU
Updated Grade
Updated Grade 2
http://www.framecompare.com/image-compare/screenshotcomparison/ZLNNN8TX
Updated 3
Updated 4
For the regraded version, I just added 1.5% noise.

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#1104642
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Revenge of the Sith (The New Canon Cut) [ON HOLD INDEFINITELY]
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The regrade looks rather green in the highlights. I had a go at a regrain and regrade, here’s what I came up with:
http://www.framecompare.com/image-compare/screenshotcomparison/PGNNN8TX
http://www.framecompare.com/image-compare/screenshotcomparison/2MNNN8TU
http://www.framecompare.com/image-compare/screenshotcomparison/PPNNN8TX
Obi-Wan
Obi-Wan 2
Sidious
Sidious 2
Yoda
Yoda 2

If you want the Photoshop file with which to generate the LUT, I can provide it.

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#1104413
Topic
STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - ** PRODUCTION HAS NOW RESTARTED **
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The point was that the 19 year gap increases the canonical age of all but one of these characters past the actor’s real ages, and the 24 year gap returns most of the characters back into a more believable age bracket. It makes sense that Owen and Beru would be older than they looked, and there’s still a substantial age difference there as expected.

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#1104412
Topic
Ranking the Star Wars films
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And now for something completely different.

Whole number rankings are insufficient. In an attempt to quantify the quality of the films, I have divided each film in half. Bold for OT, Italics for PT.

ANH, Second Half: 1
ESB, Second Half: 1.5
ANH, First Half: 2
ESB, First Half: 2.5
ROTJ, Second Half: 3
TFA, First Half: 3.5
RO, Second Half: 4
ROTJ, First Half: 4.5
ROTS, Second Half: 5
TFA, Second Half: 5.5
TPM, First Half: 6
RO, First Half: 6.5
TPM, Second Half: 7
ROTS, First Half: 7.5
AOTC, First Half: 8
AOTC, Second Half 8.5

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#1104410
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STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - ** PRODUCTION HAS NOW RESTARTED **
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Editroid said:

Anakin was Obi-Wan’s padawan. It’s natural that he would be younger than him, and not necessarily his “contemporary.”

It always struck me more as a brotherhood rather than a father/son relationship, so the 16 year age difference in the prequels always strained credulity for me. But having an 82 year-old play someone who is supposed to be 45 is really stretching it, even granted the terrible deformities and rough life.

What would make the prequels and the OT play nice is if there was a 24 year gap between the PT and OT.
Alec Guinness was 62 in ANH. With a canonical age of 38 in ROTS, this makes him perfectly cast in terms of age, and is more in keeping with the ‘old fossil’ talk in the movie.
Mark Hamill was 25 in ANH. This de-ages him by only one year.
Carrie Fisher was 20 in ANH. This ages her by 4 years, but since she acts older than her age anyway, it’s quite believable.
Phil Brown (Owen) was 60 in ANH. With Joel Edgerton in ROTS being 30, he would be de-aged by 6 years. The years have not been kind for him.
Shelagh Fraser (Beru) was 56 in ANH. With Bonnie Piesse being 22 in ROTS, she would be de-aged by 10 years. The years really haven’t been kind.
Sebastian Shaw was 82 in ROTJ. Hayden Christensen was 25 in ROTS (canonically 23), this would make him 51-53 in ROTJ, a de-aging of about 30 years. It’s an extreme aging, but at least he’s beyond middle age at this point.

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#1104392
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STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - ** PRODUCTION HAS NOW RESTARTED **
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doubleofive said:

Why do we keep talking about the Prowse documentary being a possibility? David Prowse is 82 years old. How would that be better then Shaw in any way?

Because we’re not using the prequel timeline? Phil Brown was 60 when he played Uncle Owen, Shelagh Fraser (Beru) was 56, Alec Guinness was 62. For Anakin to be a contemporary of these people, it would make sense that he would be in his 60’s or 70’s, and he would probably look older than that anyway.

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#1104233
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STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - ** PRODUCTION HAS NOW RESTARTED **
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Angly said:

I’m sure there will be suggestions aplenty in this thread, so let me just say that your (relatively) few substantial, well considered changes are worth more than many hundreds of small cosmetic alterations. I’m glad that this edit seems focused on those big changes. Don’t sweat the small stuff.

Couldn’t agree more, Cut and Paste Bot.

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#1104116
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Last movie seen
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Death Note.

Having seen the Anime and now the Netflix movie, I’ve gotta say it is a real step down from the anime.

The main character goes from being a privileged kid playing out a power fantasy (in the anime) to being a guy who has a genuine motivation for killing people due to his difficult family history and bullying at school (the movie). I know this makes it seem like the movie did it better, but much of the power of the anime is that Light begins killing because of latent nihilism and savior complex endemic of most adolescents, and giving him such a troubled past obliterates this subtle yet powerful impetus and serves only to alienate him from much of the audience. The rough acting doesn’t help matters.

At the outset, L is a casualty of the accelerated pace of the movie. We have no time for his though processes, no cat-and-mouse game with Light. Instead he is supercharged with an intense desire for justice which occasionally manifests in violent outbursts, and by the end he becomes the best thing about the movie. The acting was excellent, and in the hands of a more competent writer and director he would have surpassed the L of the anime.

Ryuk and Mia were as expected, merely functional.

One thing which surprised me was the (unintentional?) comedy of the action, which grew throughout until the climactic action setpiece. It is impossible to take it seriously, but at least it’s so over-the-top that it’s memorable.

Recommendation: Don’t watch this unless you’ve first seen the anime and want to laugh at some amusing ineptitude. At least then it will be a fun time.

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#1103807
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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CatBus said:

Warbler said:

What do you mean Republicans are saying the name of their party wrong?

“Their” in that context meaning the Democratic Party, not the Republican Party. As an exercise, go through any official Republican press release, speech by a Republican national candidate, or opinion piece by a Republican political operative, for the past ten years, and see if you can find even one saying the words “Democratic Party” when talking about their opposition. Just one reference using the actual name of a major US political party in the age of the Internet when anyone can look anything up, shouldn’t be a problem, right? Yeah, not so much. Now go back thirty years, and the same exercise is easy.

They once got it right every single time, and then suddenly they all got it wrong every single time. Staying on message is one thing the Republicans tend to do very well, even for petty name-calling. Shit, look at Freedom Fries or Death Taxes or whatnot. They even rode with Homicide Bombers for a week or so when even their own people couldn’t bear how stupid it sounded from the get-go. They practically have their own Newspeak division.

Although calling them the ‘Democrat Party’ was an insult by Republicans, it has been so ingrained in their speech patterns that they probably think theirs is the ‘proper’ way of saying it. There’s some sense to that after all. The Republicans and the Republican party are the same word, so it makes sense that the Democrats and the Democrat party would follow the same rule. It’s stupid, sure. But at least there’s some consistency in that thought.

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#1103804
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The all-purpose ART thread!
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Damn, Duracell, you’re prolific! I also really like your Episode 1 poster sketch. Very Struzan.

Apart from Duracell’s work, this thread has been gutted by Photobucket’s general crappiness. The broken links make me sad. Hopefully Deviantart will be better - I just made an account in order to re-upload what was my original avatar in 2012:
Vader Unmasked
This was right after buying a graphics tablet, and was trying to get a feel for the medium. It’s sort of an alternate universe Vader. I only wish his head had turned out better.

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#1103738
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STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - ** PRODUCTION HAS NOW RESTARTED **
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Troy said:

NeverarGreat said:

Troy said:

Get Dave Prowse & reshoot the end of RotJ with HIM! Right the original wrong. Shaw yeah fine, better than nothing but Dave earned that reveal big time.

Someone did this already. The problem would be getting the go-ahead to release the footage.

How do you mean?

It’s in a documentary on Netflix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbExdNBjOfQ

The guy shot the footage, and the behind the scenes stuff is in the documentary, but for legal reasons he couldn’t release the actual scene.

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#1103736
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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Here’s the link 😃

Having recently watched ANH Revisited as well as (of course) ESB-R, the look of ANH-R is very different than the Technicolor look of my project. For example, the Death Star walls and exterior surfaces are various shades of blue/green in my project, whereas Adywan has gone with a neutral gray. I wouldn’t suggest changing the look of ANH-R, since ESB-R follows the same look and I think it really works in modernizing the feel of the films, rather than romanticizing them as I have tried to do.

I guess what I’m trying to say is that Ady would have to start from scratch with the color no matter what. Though with all of the gradient and detail fixes in my project (hundreds of them at least), it would probably be worth it to work from that, even with the different look.

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#1103729
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STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - ** PRODUCTION HAS NOW RESTARTED **
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Troy said:

Get Dave Prowse & reshoot the end of RotJ with HIM! Right the original wrong. Shaw yeah fine, better than nothing but Dave earned that reveal big time.

Someone did this already. The problem would be getting the go-ahead to release the footage.

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#1103706
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STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - ** PRODUCTION HAS NOW RESTARTED **
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Good luck on this most massive endeavor!

I’m sure there will be suggestions aplenty in this thread, so let me just say that your (relatively) few substantial, well considered changes are worth more than many hundreds of small cosmetic alterations. I’m glad that this edit seems focused on those big changes. Don’t sweat the small stuff. 😃