NeverarGreat

There’s some confusion for me about Poe’s escape from Jakku. Poe only says that he woke up at night thrown from the TIE wreckage, unable to find Finn. This could mean that he woke up before Finn or after Finn and Rey left Jakku. An attempt at clarification, by changing the mid-day sun to dawn:

https://vimeo.com/239217816
Password: finn

(It might work better to give Finn’s investigation of the TIE a 50% correction as well to make the transition from dawn to day more gradual)

My imagined sequence of events is this: Poe has awoken in the predawn darkeness to the sound of the First Order searching the TIE, and he makes his escape as the First Order chase him. The First Order assumes that Finn is with him or was killed. Finn then awakens at dawn and finds the empty TIE.

CatBus said:

I can’t even.

I even.

Warbler said:

NeverarGreat said:

Here’s the exact exchange from Star Trek '09:

KIRK: There won’t be a next engagement. By the time we’ve gathered, it’ll be too late. But you say he’s from the future, knows what’s going to happen, then the logical thing is to be unpredictable.
SPOCK: You are assuming that Nero knows how events are predicted to unfold. To the contrary, Nero’s very presence has altered the flow of history, beginning with the attack on the USS Kelvin, culminating in the events of today, thereby creating an entire new chain of incidents that cannot be anticipated by either party.
UHURA: An alternate reality?
SPOCK: Precisely. Whatever our lives might have been, if the time continuum was disrupted, our destinies have changed. Mr. Sulu, plot a course to the Laurentian system warp factor three.

“altered the flow of history” in other words: changed history, not create a whole other universe.

UHURA: An alternate reality?
SPOCK: Precisely

From Wikipedia(empahsis mine):

A parallel universe is a hypothetical self-contained reality co-existing with one’s own.

the terms “parallel universe” and “alternative reality” are generally synonymous and can be used interchangeably in most cases

Here’s the exact exchange from Star Trek '09:

KIRK: There won’t be a next engagement. By the time we’ve gathered, it’ll be too late. But you say he’s from the future, knows what’s going to happen, then the logical thing is to be unpredictable.
SPOCK: You are assuming that Nero knows how events are predicted to unfold. To the contrary, Nero’s very presence has altered the flow of history, beginning with the attack on the USS Kelvin, culminating in the events of today, thereby creating an entire new chain of incidents that cannot be anticipated by either party.
UHURA: An alternate reality?
SPOCK: Precisely. Whatever our lives might have been, if the time continuum was disrupted, our destinies have changed. Mr. Sulu, plot a course to the Laurentian system warp factor three.

SparkySywer said:

NeverarGreat said:

yaddah yaddah yaddah

Harsh, but fair.

The only thing that bugs me about it is that there’s too much space between the words.

DominicCobb said:

I’ve found, in color grading AOTC, it’s pretty easy to get rid of the green spill by just reducing green saturation. The bigger issue with the shots, I think, is clunky compositing.

That’s part of it, but you can see in both images that there’s a bright outline around much of the actors, which saturation alone won’t fix.

The first image uses a very specific chroma key and a hue shift, so it shouldn’t be too hard to apply to a video.

I had to use a custom feathered matte in the second image, so that the desert would be brighter than the actors and realistically brighten the edges of their figures. For a video this would have to be keyframe animated, but it’s doable.

Possessed said:

I don’t quite get how high definition is an alteration but okay. What, do they think the original films were shot on vhs or something? That’s a common misconception that bugs the crap out of me with ignorant people, that hi def is a new thing. Sure it’s new for HOME MEDIA but films have always been made at a high resolution, or whatever the analog term for that would be.

I have never seen this misconception except in the case of Star Wars. It’s baffling that it keeps being repeated.

…Anyway, to continue the Sail Barge discussion, I worked on reducing the green screen artifacts in Photoshop:

http://www.framecompare.com/image-compare/screenshotcomparison/K7GNNN8X

HerekittykittyX said:

This is not an idea for return of the Jedi I have an idea for revenge of the sith and attack of the clones I was going to do it for my edit but you can go right away you should add darth mual into attack of the clones and revenge of the sith use after effects and take out count dooku and then replace with darth mual use a green screen and add him in. Another idea add Anakin in the Darth Vader costume for revenge of the sith when Order 66 goes down and the battle with Obi-Wan
I was listening to Darth Vader audio I would recommend using audio from Star Wars rebels when Vader fights Ashoka
And it would take out most of the clunky audio for the final battle

Please use the proper thread.
Please use some punctuation.
Please use any formatting.

doubleofive said:

Almost every time travel episode uses a different method and follows a different theory about how time travel works.

All you need to do is slingshot around the sun, which does not create a new timeline (According to Scotty and Kirk).
Or use some Chronometric particles, which may or may not create a new timeline (Depending on if the Borg actually assimilated the Earth in an alternate universe where the Enterprise didn’t intervene).
Or get sucked into a black hole, which explicitly does create a new timeline (According to New Spock).

darthrush said:

Let us not forget about everything else in the edit which is superb!

Quite right. If SirRidley, DigMod, that weirdo Neverar and others could work together on an edit with Restructured (The Starkiller Edit) as its base, it would be a wonder to behold.

Star Wars is the best movie of the franchise.
The Empire Strikes Back is the best Star Wars movie of the franchise.

Which one you prefer says a lot about how much of a Star Wars fan you are vs simply liking good movies.

If the Interrogation scene of HTTF was improved through the use of a CGI mask (probably beyond the skill of all here), I’d be interested in seeing a combination edit. As it is, the prolonged reveal creates more problems than it solves.

I dreamed that Disney was remaking A New Hope, and a guerrilla crew of faneditors had sneaked onto the set during filming of the Tantive IV attack. In this remake there were green lightsabers and lasers, and the fanediting crew was trying to film alternate angles of the action in order to ‘improve’ some of the less than fantastic shots of the original film.

Then the dream shifted and I was watching The Phantom Menace, except that it was made during the 50’s with the old Lucas story sensibility and style. Because of this, the old, grainy film began on a desolate Tatooine that had recently undergone some sort of environmental collapse. The air was full of dust and 12 year old Anakin wandered a wasteland littered with nuclear-age debris. He wandered into an old-west style town with adobe buildings, and the ragged humanity peered out of darkened windows as he passed. I noticed that the live action was poorly composited into matte paintings which extended the vista of the destroyed city. Then I woke up.

TV’s Frink said:

I don’t think you’re doing this thread right.

I must compliment you on your bold rejection of this thread’s purpose.

DuracellEnergizer said:

darthrush said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Anakin Starkiller said:

the fact that we don’t end with Lando clapping has got to be worth something

Get on your knees and beg for forgiveness.

I don’t wanna know what happens after that.

The excommunication gets lifted.

That’s neither cruel nor unusual. I’m disappointed.

suspiciouscoffee said:

joefavs said:

I was really hoping they’d go the Indy route and make it Han Solo and the ______.

That’s the title for the sequels and later home video releases.

Han Solo and the Raiders of the Last Temple of the Kyber Crystal Skull

moviefreakedmind said:

The reason UBI is such a turn off for most people is that there are tons of people out there that don’t even deserve basic income, much like how there are welfare people that don’t deserve it. It’s inappropriate to reject the whole program or concept just because of the assholes that ruin it though.

I default to Gandalf on this.

UBI is a difficult concept, since it’s hard to know how society will be distorted if it is implemented. There have been some small-scale experiments, but I don’t think that any experiment will truly capture the psychology of the populace until UBI is implemented on a wide scale.

On the one hand, people obviously respond to incentives. The incentive, when given a sum of money, is to work less. When everyone has this incentive, productivity will naturally take a hit and prices will go up to soak up the increased demand. That’s the downside.

On the other hand, some money will always be better than no money and people will be able to make better choices about their future with the knowledge that there’s a steady flow of money into their pockets (hello higher education). It will also alleviate the most severe cases of poverty in the nation, a massive upside.

All in all, the upsides to me clearly outweigh the downsides.

I think the idea has promise, but would be very tricky to implement.

I’d keep part of Obi-wan’s ghost scene, so that it’s established that Luke has a twin sister. He simply doesn’t think that Leia fits the bill.

Here’s a potential ending:

-DS explosion. Han and Leia don’t speak.
-Ewok celebration. Luke returns, sees the ghosts. Perhaps there’s some ghostly echo from Ben to remind him of his twin sister.
-Luke and Leia discuss his family.
‘Luke what’s troubling you?’
‘Vader’s here. I’ve felt his presence. He’s my father.’
‘Your father?’
‘The Force is strong in my family. I have it. My father has it. My sister has it.’
‘That’s why I have to go.’
‘I wish I could go with you.’
‘You’ve always been strong.’
-Luke leaves, Han arrives and hugs Leia.
-Luke burns Vader’s suit.
-Pan up to the stars, and End Credits

Unfortunately, I don’t know if there’s a way for TFA to work without the knowledge that Leia is his sister, since Kylo’s entire being is built upon the assumption that Vader is his grandfather.

The easiest way to sever Leia’s blood relation to Luke is by recognizing that Ben could have easily been misleading Luke to keep the true ‘other’ safe. No fanediting is needed, except in the case of Episode 3.

I think it’s really jarring that Leia’s apparently looking out of the left hand side of the barge in one shot then the right side in the next. I suppose Han and Luke look a bit more natural, but that’s the tradeoff the editor makes.

The most jarring aspect of that scene for me has always been the unfortunate green screen however.

TV’s Frink said:

Is that Saw Gerrera?

Lies! Deceptions!

Also:

https://www.reddit.com/r/lotr/comments/774w1j/tolkien_white_guys/