NeverarGreat

DuracellEnergizer said:

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

Also curious what happened to Vader’s red sabre. Did Luke retrieve it before Death Star II blew up?

It fell into a black hole and was transported to a galaxy even farther away. There it was found by a civilization of machine entities, who gave it intelligence and built for it a new machine body. It then took to roaming the universe, in search of its creator.

This is a quality post.

War of the Stars 2: The Future in Motion

After greatly enjoying the first edit, I embarked on this one and was not disappointed. Well, I thought Luke’s return to Dagobah was unnecessary, but other than that it was brilliant and entertaining to watch the paradox of condensing two films into one while incorporating as much superfluous deleted material as possible.

9/10 Chocolate Medals

I don’t mind that some people register only to ask for a certain edit. It’s one thing for a place like Myspleen where a lot of hit-and-run behavior is a problem, but for regular download links it shouldn’t be a problem. For people who want my ANH edit I request proof of Blu-ray ownership to the new users, and this allows everyone who’s truly interested to get what they want.

Jim Smith said:

Tobar said:

I’d say there are some important differences…

They say that you can kinda see Vader’s visage in this poster for The Last Jedi. If the filmmakers are smart they’d feature about as many cool flashback scenes with Vader in them as they possibly can. Vader is a very large part of this whole franchise whether he’s alive or dead. On an off-topic side note the porgs look ridiculous.

I disagree with everything you just said.

He’s the hero OT Forums needs right now.

I save them as well, but for The Dark Knight I only have one ticket stub so I’d like to hold onto it. Usually I have extras since my brothers give theirs to me, but alas they did not in this case.

moviefreakedmind said:

As much as I hate the prequels, saying that the Holiday Special is better is absurd. The Holiday Special is the most boring piece of media ever created. It’s not so bad it’s good, it’s so bad it’s really bad.

It’s so bad that even the Rifftrax guys couldn’t save it, and I had to turn it off halfway through despite their valiant attempt to hold my interest.

SilverWook said:

Anakin Starkiller said:

Like I said, I just don’t find Jar Jar’s stupidity annoying. If anything it’s endearing. As for him being a racial stereotype, that’s simply ludicrous. What little evidence there is is circumstantial and laughably insignificant. The fact he doesn’t even look remotely like a jamaican alone should be enough to dismiss this claim. AotC Watto, on the other hand.

He’s not endearing to everyone. You don’t see Mr. Binks walking around Disney parks as other prequel characters do. Even Watto got a shop in the Orlando park named after him.

Does a character have to be in blackface before they meet your definition of being offensive to some people?

I don’t think George deliberately set out to make Jar Jar offensive. The problem lies in the culture that existed at Lucasfilm where anyone who could say Gee George, I dunno. Maybe that’s not such a good idea? was long gone and Lucas surrounds himself with yes men.

Yes to this.

I should add that in addition to my ideas above I would make the case to Lucas that it would be warranted for him to do a Special Edition of TPM to change some of the more unfortunate aspects of Mr Binks, and also to maybe edit out the Midichlorians.

darth_ender said:

SilverWook said:

Since Frink jogged my memory, what do you guys think about a current events thread separate from Politics? Or did we have one that died a slow death and I missed it?

Died a fairly sudden death, actually

JEDIT: yhwx found it quicker than I did.

At least that thread lasted for 14 pages. Look what happened to mine!

The thing that I like about Vader is that he begins the OT as the Archetypal Evil Henchman, and his mask is slowly lowered throughout the trilogy to reveal the conflicted character beneath. Most of the characters in Star Wars follow this pattern - they are established as strong archetypes, only to be revealed as a complexity or subversion of the archetype.

The problem with Kylo, then, is that he’s not really archetypal. He is not fully evil, he’s too tempestuous to rule yet too rebellious to be a henchman, too serious to be a comic villain yet too infantile to be menacing…

In short, he’s a walking contradiction at odds with the spirit of Star Wars. Only time will tell if it was a good move for the series or not, but I understand why people have a problem with him.

So I guess it’s okay for me to finally reveal my big ‘Snoke is Krennick’ theory?
That scar is clearly from a low-powered Death Star beam.

Wazzles said:

77-81: Star Wars
97: Star Wars Special Edition
04-11: big silly title ending in A New Hope

Rogue One Part 2 and Star Wars Episode 4: George Lucas’s Star Wars Special Edition Version 3: A New Hope

CatBus said:

What’s Monday going to throw us?

The mainstream pick: Manafort
The wishful thinking: Jarvanka
The obscure but important curveball: Sater
The nobody of consequence: Pence (hee hee)
The beginning: multiple persons, like Manafort/Stone/Kushner, etc

Looks like the mainstream pick was right, with a side of Rick Gates.

And there’s a lot of damage at the reel changes.

DuracellEnergizer said:

Should I have kids, I probably won’t deliberately expose them to SW. It’s just not worth it being a SW fan. Instead I’ll show them stuff by Bergman and Kurosawa and co. and try to get them interested in classic foreign films.

I figure that basically all people being born this decade will be a part of Disney’s master plan for the franchise whether they like it or not. And since the OT can be a brilliant and transformative experience for a young child and gets much less effective if introduced at an older age, it would be a shame to deprive someone of that.

Of course I do not suggest depriving someone of the experience of good foreign films, but unless you watch a dub it’s going to require a child with the ability and patience to read for several hours at a time.

ToscheStation said:

What I’ll never understand is how someone can find a story as “rich”, “expansive”, and overall “emotionally satisfying”, a version of the Star Wars universe where:

1. The main character’s parents were people that we’ve never seen or met, and will probably never get to see, barring prequels.

2. The princess character belongs to a family that (thanks to the Death Star) we’ve never met, nor whom we will ever learn about in potential sequels.

3. A solitary knight(Ben) with no family or progeny whatsoever.

4. A villain who for all we know is some one-dimensional guy behind the mask. Nothing to his past, other than having once been a student of the solitary knight character.

That’s the character dynamics of the stand-alone Star Wars film, in a nutshell. I can’t see a story with such characters going beyond a single film.

In The Fellowship of the Ring film, we don’t see the parents or progeny of:

1. Frodo
2. Sam
3. Gandalf
4. Aragorn
5. Boromir
6. Merry
7. Pippin
8. Legolas
9. Gimli

None of the villains had parents that we know of, nor do they have progeny (except for perhaps Sauruman’s weird Orcs).

And yet, I still feel like I can just maybe see the story going beyond a single film.

The little-used Catastrophe mark. It’s an inverted trident signifying that the preceding sentence requires evil laughter.

I believe he later finds work as one of the ghosts at Hogwarts.

What if I didn’t use syrup?

yhwx said:

Well then you are lost!

Excuse me! I’m in charge of this reference here, M’lady.

I just ate pancakes for breakfast.

In the 2011 and 2015 versions, they both fire at about the same time. So I’ll bet George repented even if it’s not 100% back to the original version.

Here’s something that might help for A New Hope: http://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1122903

Bluto said:

NeverarGreat said:

Here’s a spreadsheet I made for people who want to know what versions of ANH are available to watch:

Very handy - a super idea! If there’s room, it could be useful to squeeze in the word “GOUT” in the description for the Limited Edition 2006 DVD, since that is what it is commonly referred to.

Good idea.

With the resolution details at the bottom, I believe the DVD should be 480-576 horizontal lines (480 for NTSC, 576 for PAL, assuming it is anamorphic), and the laserdisc 425-440.

Bluto

Since there are film preservations which are included, I wanted to provide an unbroken continuum of (vertical) resolutions. However it’s been changed to be more accurate 😃

Here’s a spreadsheet I made for people who want to know what versions of ANH are available to watch:

It’s incomplete and probably has errors, but hopefully it gives some indication of all the versions and a good sample of the completed projects.