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Looks pretty good! Definitely more unsettling.

For Starlight, I’ve already changed the eyes to be a bit more prominent, and I’m happy with the look. I imagine that they would be more vibrant in a vision anyway, so there’s really no problem with inconsistency.

Of you could end it with this if you’re not a coward.

Spartacus01 said:

My (unpopular) ranking:

1. Last Crusade
2. Raiders of the Lost Ark
3. Kingdom of the Crystal Skull
4. Temple of Doom

I know it’s a very unpopular take on the Indiana Jones movies, but I genuinely find Temple of Doom to be the most boring movie of the four. Last Crusade and Raiders of the Lost Ark are my favorites, and kingdom of the Crystal Skull is fun.

I’d probably list them in this order as well. The last time I watched Temple of Doom it was genuinely difficult to find anything in it enjoyable.

Version one I think would work even better if she just said ‘No…it’s too dangerous’, leaving time for a pause before Rey responds.

StarkillerAG said:

Personally, I feel sort of uncomfortable using AI voice clips for fanediting. The fact that we can now create new movie dialogue out of thin air, with no input from the original actors at all, feels sort of soulless to me. Call me a Luddite, but AI in general is a Pandora’s box that I’m not really comfortable opening.

If we’re going to change Jar-Jar’s dialogue, I think the classic “foreign dub with new subtitles” route is the best way to go about it. Sure, Jar-Jar does appear in later canon material, but you can just assume he learned English in between movies (which would explain his dialect).

That’s fair. I also agree that replacing all of a character’s dialogue with AI feels weird, and if someone were to go the route of redubbing Jar Jar, it should be with a real voice actor (just like a foreign dub of a movie).

Personally for me, I think AI should work as a tool to make possible things that wouldn’t have been possible otherwise. For example, JJ had a bunch of deleted scenes of Leia from The Force Awakens that he wanted to use in TROS but probably couldn’t because the dialogue didn’t work with the new plot. If a line of AI dialogue would have allowed that scene to be used (along with shots of Carrie’s real performance), I imagine that JJ would have done it. To make a deleted scene work in Restructured/Starlight, I ended up mashing together several of Leia’s lines with new mouth movements, but that allowed for the inclusion of my favorite Leia character moment in all of the sequels, one that absolutely deserved to be in the movie.

So yes, AI is a tool, and it is up to us to use to use it to enable more human performances and storytelling, not to impoverish them.

Sounds pretty good!

Though there’s no helping the awkwardness and unbelievability of Carrie Fisher not speaking for most of a conversation.

Star Trek: The Next Generation

It’s still my favorite Star Trek show, and one of my favorite shows in general. It’s just comfy.

I think the line is fine, personally. It feels like Kylo is genuinely unhinged at that moment and is expressing disbelief that there is more to the report, regardless of what it is. It could reasonably be expected that the First Order would interrogate those on Jakku to find out about Rey, and this report is given to Kylo before he reaches Maz’s castle along with the report by Kanji Club.

Sure, you could imagine that there is a backstory to Rey that motivates this question, but it can be interpreted either way.

Okay, I took the Despecialized ending from here and threw the audio into a MIDI editor and added some orchestra and brass elements to the Force Ghost section. Nothing huge, and it’s pretty rough since I didn’t know anything about MIDI editing before today.

Here’s the result.

https://imgur.com/gallery/MtRwltf

Credit KyloRexPhotos / TheLordOfTheRens

The VHS trilogy all the way for me. I still have an original ESB VHS around somewhere.

Interesting about being anti-copyright, VII. I would think that being pro-copyright would prevent you from watching an unlicensed edit, so I guess I’m a bit confused.

Hal 9000 said:

Celebrate the love, guys. Yub Nub is the height of semi-diagetic music in SW.

Indeed.

I just posted here how the original score would work just fine with the addition of some more orchestrated melody. I’d also humbly suggest continuing the conversation there instead of further cluttering this thread.

Because of the talk of alternate music for ROTJ’s ending, I went for a look for some lesser-known Williams music to put to this scene. Here’s a fun combo:

Start this track at 1:38
https://youtu.be/jH7kblZ1e8U?t=98

and play it concurrently with this from 0:55
https://youtu.be/TvXm5HuR72k?t=55

In all seriousness, I think what’s missing from the Yub Nub ending is a bit more of the underlying instrumentality that appears near the end of the scene. If someone recorded and overlaid an orchestra section which gradually faded in throughout the scene, it would have been perfect. It doesn’t even need to be complicated, a simple melody in strings and brass that follows the vocalists would suffice. As it stands, the ghosts just appear to the sound of tribal drums without any fanfare, and what little there is comes in too late.

I’ve got a few ideas, I’ll send you a PM 😃

^Agree 100%

Sounds pretty great to me!

Well remember that version 2 will have the subplot about the fleet being assembled to aid the Resistance, but the Hosnian system is destroyed before it launches. If I ever manage to do a TLJ edit, the Raddus fleet will be retconned into being the remnants of the Republic fleet which has suffered horrible loss in their defense of the galaxy, in an attempt to give the illusion of time passing between the two films:

EPISODE VIII
THE LAST JEDI

The Republic is doomed.
Without the Jedi Knights,
nothing can stand against
the ascendant First Order.

Using secrets delivered
by a sinister informant,
an armada of fearsome
warships commanded by
Supreme Leader Snoke has
ravaged the unsuspecting
New Republic Starfleet
and hunted its survivors
across the stars.

Attempting to escape this
deadly armada, the last of
the tattered fleet has fled
to General Leia Organa
and her Resistance base,
seeking a final spark of
hope amidst the galaxy’s
most desperate hour…

I just stumbled upon this and was blown away. It uses this AI to create remarkably clear dialogue, and based on the spot-on pronunciation of the made-up words in that sample as well as some words which were clearly misread, this example was made by speaking the words to the AI and having the AI tune the voice to a specific character. If this is true, then it is a vast improvement over the FakeYou AI which failed to make the cut in my edit.

So what do you think? I’m thinking about a few choice discussions in the OT and how they could be transformed with a few edits from this AI.

Forbidden Planet (1956)

Finally got around to watching this classic, and you can almost imagine Gene Roddenberry and a young George Lucas sitting in the theater furiously taking notes.

I’ve been once or twice. This was in my late teens, early twenties when my parents were convinced I was depressed and they put me on antidepressants (which didn’t seem to do anything) and insisted I go see a professional. I don’t recall much about it because it was mostly just introductions and general questions. I think they wanted to know about my worldview and I ended up getting philosophical, which sent the conversation on a tangent about metaphysics and at that point my time was up. I didn’t really get anything from it so I didn’t go back. Regardless, I didn’t think there was any deep trauma in my childhood or teenage past for therapy to help.

Fast forward a decade and what my parents thought was depression I suspect was more along the lines of Adult Onset ADHD which led to a series of depressive episodes, which would explain a lot. Maybe if I’d continued with therapy the therapist could have recognized the underlying cause of my distress being due to very selective ability to concentrate on tasks and they could have done more to help, but I don’t think there was ever any hint that anyone considered this.

In terms of physical therapy, I did have a minor hip injury in college and went to therapy for it quite a few times. That seemed quite effective from what I could tell and I haven’t had issues with it since.

hinventon said:

It probably wouldn’t fit anywhere in the crawl, but I wish there was a way to elaborate on why there’s no Republic fleet to counter the FO. What makes the most sense to me is that the Republic demilitarized after ROTJ fearing they would become another Empire, and are funding the Resistance in secret to fight them, but that’s not explained very well in the actual film.

Can’t wait for a V2 whenever you start it back up, this edit’s my favorite!

I wish I could include that as well, but the space just isn’t there. I’ve certainly tried! And thank you for the encouragement; this project will be completed, hopefully on a Death Star II schedule and not Death Star I 😉

VVPizza said:

This feels like the best crawl so far-- dense with info without feeling forced. Introducing the Republic early does helpthe second paragraph flow better.

I feel like while “Rejoicing in Skywalker’s downfall” does set the right sinister tone for the First Order, it might point too heavily toward later revelations about Luke’s arc following RotJ, where the rest of the movie teases out the mystery. “Skywalker’s abscence” might be a suitable more-neutral phrase. Then again, the First Order having apparent knowledge of said downfall establishes a mystery of its own which gets resolved later, so the trade-off may be worth it.

I would also suggest changing “the return of the Jedi” to “the Jedi Master’s return” or something similar-- with “the last Jedi” already present in the next paragraph, two title drops in one crawl feels a bit too “winking” to me. It would also reaffirm his goal of restoring the Jedi Order, and his prospective role as a mentor to Rey later on.

In a non-crawl-related note, I’ve gotten an idea in my head lately about Rey’s Dark Side connection in the duel which I can’t shake. I’ve been imagining the blue-red flickering on her and Kylo’s faces resolving to primarily red as she taps into that power-- paralleling the color symbolism when Kylo chooses the Dark in the previous scene.

Interesting idea about the light changing! Something more subtle may be appropriate, since I wouldn’t want to suggest that Rey’s saber goes red.

Those are some fair points on the crawl as well. I did try ‘absence’ instead of ‘downfall’, but downfall just sounds more dire and clear that this is a bad thing for the good guys. There are also a lot of ‘s’ sounds on that line. Maybe generalizing the downfall to the plural Jedi would make more sense.

How about this:

EPISODE VII
THE FORCE AWAKENS

The Republic is in crisis.
Luke Skywalker, striving
to restore its legendary
Jedi Order, has vanished.

Rejoicing in the Jedi’s
downfall, sinister agents
under the command of
the evil FIRST ORDER
have emerged from a
hidden Imperial base to
declare that all who seek
Luke Skywalker’s return
shall be destroyed.

In an act of RESISTANCE,
a daring band of rebels
armed by the Republic
has sent their best pilot
to Jakku, desperate to
find the last Jedi and
vanquish the shadow now
rising across the stars…

Z6PO said:

Marooned Biker Scout said:

more cheese in Star Wars!

Don’t forget the crackers!

https://youtu.be/2emv5A7OlVM?t=145

^ I do love that dusky lilac hue, it just looks right to me.

Now I’m imagining that when Anakin and Obi-wan were fighting together in the Clone Wars, Obi-wan would continually pull magic tricks to bamboozle Anakin and remind him he still had much to learn. Perhaps this is why Vader is adamant that he is the master now, only to have Obi-wan pull one last trick.