NeverarGreat

Brilliant! I’ll wait until the braid fix before integrating it though. 😃

ray_afraid said:

NeverarGreat said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

It’s faster, more intense.

What’s he talking about here?

I dunno, just found it on the interwebs.

TV’s Frink said:

NeverarGreat said:

TV’s Frink said:

NeverarGreat said:

TV’s Frink said:

I have heard many men call female characters a Mary Sue. The only time I’ve ever heard anyone call someone a Gary Stu is in a sad desperate attempt to defend their use of Mary Sue.

I previously linked to a good example of the term in use, but here are some pull quotes from the reviews for your reading pleasure:

Ok, now I’ve heard it once.

If you can show me that Mary Sue isn’t used far more often than Gary Stu, I’d love to see it.

I’m not a miracle worker 😉

Don’t tell your new friend Maxim, it will break his heart. :p

Whence came you by the assumption that we agree? Especially since I have repeatedly stated that I do not think Rey is a Mary Sue. I think the only place in which you and I disagree on this subject is that I think that the term (both male and female versions) are accurate descriptions of certain characters and as such are acceptable descriptors in certain (albeit limited) scenarios, whereas you’re probably of the opinion that the abuse of this term has made it unacceptable for anyone to use despite its descriptive utility.

That’s a place where I’m happy agreeing to disagree, and leaving it at that. 😃

DuracellEnergizer said:

Agreed.

At least it will still exist for future generations, which was rather the point of the endeavor.

TV’s Frink said:

NeverarGreat said:

TV’s Frink said:

I have heard many men call female characters a Mary Sue. The only time I’ve ever heard anyone call someone a Gary Stu is in a sad desperate attempt to defend their use of Mary Sue.

I previously linked to a good example of the term in use, but here are some pull quotes from the reviews for your reading pleasure:

Ok, now I’ve heard it once.

If you can show me that Mary Sue isn’t used far more often than Gary Stu, I’d love to see it.

I’m not a miracle worker 😉

TV’s Frink said:

I have heard many men call female characters a Mary Sue. The only time I’ve ever heard anyone call someone a Gary Stu is in a sad desperate attempt to defend their use of Mary Sue.

I previously linked to a good example of the term in use, but here are some pull quotes from the reviews for your reading pleasure:

“Holy special snowflake, Gary Stu.”

“Recommends it for: Those who like badly plotted male wish fulfillment Gary Stus.”

“-Gary Stu protagonist
-Sidekick(s)
-Fanservice love interest”

“Why not 5 stars? The ‘Gary Stu’-ness of the main character got on my nerves at some points”

“All I see is the mother (father?) of all Gary Stu characters, and a bunch of “oh I’m so original (but not so original that I’ll dispense with horses and inns and a sexist society)!” fantasy filler.”

“If you look to the left, you will see the main character introduced, Kvothe (aka, Kote, The Flame, E’lir, Shadicar, Reshi, The Thunderer, Macho Mage, Child Prodigy, Gary Stu, etc) in sweeping purple prose flowers all the way down your field of vision.”

oojason said:

I found this video to be of merit when talking about the supposedly ‘Mary Sue’ / overpowered / SuperRey claims about Rey (amongst other criticism of characters) in The Force Awakens…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iqN68PejEc

(^ It is a ‘response video’ to someone claiming the usual ‘Ray is a Mary Sue’ opinion - along with that TFA was anti-male and anti-family. Some interesting and well made points in there from Shaun 😃)

The guy Shaun’s responding to has probably the most toxic viewpoint on Rey that I’ve ever seen, by a country mile.

MaximRecoil said:

NeverarGreat said:
This is a good, well reviewed book:
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/186074.The_Name_of_the_Wind
The main character is a Gary Stu.
Discuss. Or better yet, let’s not.

I’m not going to read that book, nor is “well reviewed” a guarantee of good writing (The Force Awakens is well reviewed too), nor am I going to simply take your word for it that the main character is a Mary Sue. Given that one of the most common arguments from Rey apologists is, “If Rey was a Mary Sue then so was Luke,” it’s obvious that many people don’t know what a Mary Sue is. Luke wasn’t even close to being a Mary Sue.

http://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1069656

At least it’s an improvement over the last one.

MaximRecoil said:

ChainsawAsh said:

I will never understand not ranking AOTC as the worst Star Wars film.

Unless you’re including the Holiday Special. Or maybe the 2008 TCW movie, but even that is better than AOTC for me.

The worst one is the one centered around a “Mary Sue” character, given that a Mary Sue character is a poster child for bad writing; so bad that it normally only appears in the worst examples of fan fiction.

This is a good, well reviewed book:
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/186074.The_Name_of_the_Wind
The main character is a Gary Stu.
Discuss. Or better yet, let’s not.

http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2017/11/20/you-can-order-bmds-star-wars-the-last-jedi-issue-right-now

DuracellEnergizer said:

I’m going to miss Leia and her ever-changing hairstyle. For some reason, I am reticent to do the full-scale drawing of her for my poster, probably because I’m afraid of not doing her justice.

The sketch and the post from October has been updated.

dahmage said:

NeverarGreat said:

For what it’s worth, I took “Good for you” as a statement of appreciation and not condescension or sarcasm.

Good for you.

But at least yours is clearly sarcasm.

For what it’s worth, I took “Good for you” as a statement of appreciation and not condescension or sarcasm.

Yep, I just said it was a concept because in practice the puppeteering made his legs look like arms.

Possessed said:

A book called “Where in the Absolute Fuck is Carmen San Diego”. Think of it

I’m thinking this is the first place I’d look:

I think the original Max Rebo concept, where his hands were actually feet, was super cool:

Justice League:

Having never seen any of the other DCEU movies save Wonder Woman, I expected a dumpster fire and got a movie that was just competent enough to be boring. The Flash was the only bright spot in the movie, everyone else either looked embarrassed to be there or was a pale imitation of a previous incarnation of the character.

It’s about the Protestant Reformation.

DuracellEnergizer said:

It’s faster, more intense.

TV’s Frink said:

Yoda being a warrior completely spits on his OT character and isn’t even the worst thing in the PT.

FTFY

I noticed that Firefox was running very slowly the past few weeks, but after it updated tonight it’s much faster.

Of the three, the blonde kid had an intensity in his delivery that would have foreshadowed Anakin’s later darkness and better connected to Episode 2. Going with Jake just goes to show how much George wanted to make the statement that Anakin began as an entirely innocent child, despite how unnatural that would be in the film.