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#1177731
Topic
The Force Awakens: Starlight (V1.1 Released!)
Time

I kind of like the idea that it’s vague, since it allows the viewer to imagine as many Jedi as they want. Luke did have a school, so he could have rescued some of his students. Of course he didn’t, but I’d like to leave that possibility open as long as possible, to heighten the mystery around the Jedi at this time.

Here’s another attempt, trying to make the sentences less clunky:

THE FORCE AWAKENS

The galaxy is in peril.
After many years of peace,
the last of the Jedi Knights
has vanished.

In his absence, generations
of fanatic soldiers, stationed
on a secret Imperial base,
have completed a weapon
that can devour entire stars.
Without the protection of
the Jedi, the New Republic
is blind to this hidden
threat.

Only one leader resists
this evil FIRST ORDER.
Mobilizing her most loyal
officers, she sends her
finest pilot in search
of the long-lost Jedi,
master of the vast
and powerful Force…

Needless to say, here I’m playing up the legend for all it’s worth. 😉

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#1177615
Topic
The Force Awakens: Starlight (V1.1 Released!)
Time

I wasn’t happy with how much information I needed to force into the first four lines. Now they function as a re-introduction to the galaxy and the fortress takes up the body of the second paragraph like in the original Star Wars crawl.

THE FORCE AWAKENS

It is a time of uneasy peace.
With the long civil war now
only a memory, a new
Republic rules the galaxy.

Yet the old Empire survives.
Created in secret by the
Emperor’s first command,
a zealous order has built a
fortress that can devour
entire stars. Led by a ruthless
warlord, they have driven
the last of the Jedi Knights
into hiding.

Without the wisdom of
the Jedi, the Republic is
blind to this deadly peril.
Only one leader mobilizes
a brave RESISTANCE,
and sends their finest pilot
on a mission to find
the long-lost Jedi…

The number of name drops is now down to four, and I’m very happy with that. The crawl is getting to the place where it could serve as an introduction to newcomers to the story. Leaving the identity of this Resistance leader secret makes more sense of the following scene:
“The General? To me she’s royalty.”

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#1177483
Topic
The Force Awakens: Starlight (V1.1 Released!)
Time

Another stab at the crawl, taking into consideration my 4/9/8 line numbering scheme and the recent feedback 😉 :

THE FORCE AWAKENS

The Empire has survived. Forged
by the Emperor’s first command,
his legions are secretly building a
fortress that devours entire stars.

Led by a ruthless warlord,
this zealous order and its
evil knights have caused the
last of the Jedi to disappear.
With the New Republic
fearing to declare open war,
one general leads a covert
Resistance to this deadly
threat.

Desperate for allies,
General Leia Organa
has sent her most daring
pilot on a mission to
find the long-lost Jedi,
her only hope in restoring
peace and justice to the
galaxy…

JEDIT: I’ve also gotten the capitalized names down from 7 in the original crawl to 5, which I think is the absolute minimum possible with this movie (I count Empire and Emperor as variations on 1). For comparison, ANH had 4 capitalized names.

Post
#1175790
Topic
Religion
Time

Mrebo said:

That is the gist of it 😛

It’s more profound than one might think at first glance. The idea that the rules of the physical universe bend toward a certain result is compelling. We also might consider it in terms of maximalization: where matter arranges itself on the most fundamental level in order to create the most complex and varied existence possible. I think that sounds more sensible than the idea that stuff just is the way it is because.

The universe already tends towards maximum entropy or disorder.

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#1175221
Topic
Religion
Time

DuracellEnergizer said:

NeverarGreat said:

If God existed before everything else, then who or what created God? Since nothing else existed, the definitive answer is that nothing could have created God, and its existence is not only ineffable, but logically unsound. Something cannot come from nothing. The universe itself also suffers from this problem. People who posit the existence of God and/or the universe are implying that the very principles of logic are so broken that literally anything follows from an argument. I could say that because some flower pots are red, Australia is made of bricks and it would be just as logical as saying that God or a universe arose from nothing.

Therein lies the problem of saying God “exists”. To exist is to be a part of existence — to be part of the creation. God isn’t a part of existence; God is the ground of existence, or existence itself. Ergo, God doesn’t “exist”.

But that’s only what I’ve gleaned from a cursory reading of Tillich.

Precisely.

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#1175199
Topic
Religion
Time

If God existed before everything else, then who or what created God? Since nothing else existed, the definitive answer is that nothing could have created God, and its existence is not only ineffable, but logically unsound. Something cannot come from nothing. The universe itself also suffers from this problem. People who posit the existence of God and/or the universe are implying that the very principles of logic are so broken that literally anything follows from an argument. I could say that because some flower pots are red, Australia is made of bricks and it would be just as logical as saying that God or a universe arose from nothing.

And there’s no need to bring higher dimensions into it. Any other dimensions would still be things, and still need explanations like anything else. The entire conundrum is quite simple: If God/the universe actually exists, then logic is at best a passing and local phenomenon, and our existence depends upon the capricious whim of chaos beyond our control or understanding. If however nothing exists, then everything we see, everything we appear to be, is actually an illusion. Yet only in this explanation is logic preserved.

Because of this, I say that God is nothing. It is emptiness, it is Truth beyond logic, it is peace beyond illusion. It was never created, it cannot be destroyed. It is omnipresent, yet always hidden behind illusion. Yet only with illusion can things appear to happen, and this illusion is the source of all misunderstanding and evil.

Now if only the religions of this little world would just get along.

Post
#1172417
Topic
The Starlight Project Part 2: The Last Jedi (WIP)
Time

I remember Leia flies through a Supremacy hologram projected on the bridge during her Force floating scene, so it can be implied that they know about the device by this point. I could make it more explicit if I were to use a crawl where Finn tries to warn the Resistance about such a device. He says at one point that he knows where the device is located, so that’s not too much of a logical leap.

Post
#1172199
Topic
The Starlight Project Part 2: The Last Jedi (WIP)
Time

It’s definitely something I’m thinking about, but for it to make sense there would need to be some onscreen explanation of how it works, preferably during the holographic Supremacy scene.

Of course, this is at cross-purposes with the idea of cutting the opening scenes entirely, since it would do away with the holographic Supremacy.

There’s a lot of ways to take this edit, so all options are sill on the table. I like your idea of connecting the hyperspace tracker and the Raddus right before the impact.

JEDIT: The Hyperspace crash sequence could be edited to more accurately reflect the idea that the Raddus is hitting just the tracker and not the entire Supremacy. In the first shot, we see the Raddus fly towards the Supremacy then disappear into Hyperspace. Then in the next shot there is a bright line intersecting the Supremacy, slicing it in half.
Sliced Supremacy
Perhaps removing the bright line of the Raddus before impact would indicate that it was definitely in Hyperspace at the point of impact. Then, instead of it slicing through the entire ship, the slice started midway through the wing. It looks like the debris from the explosion radiate out from a midpoint anyway.

Post
#1170948
Topic
General Star Wars <strong>Random Thoughts</strong> Thread
Time

I see some Star Wars movies and I say to myself, ‘That aint very Star Wars’.
Like I try really hard to see where they’re coming from and I get it, but it still doesn’t feel very Star Wars.
And I see some other movies that aren’t Star Wars and I say to myself ‘Hey, this feels a lot like Star Wars’.
Like I know it’s not Star Wars but the moments feel a lot more like Star Wars than many of the movies titled Star Wars.
Then I see the original Star Wars and that’s got the most Star Wars in it because it’s literally Star Wars and cannot have less than 100% Star Wars.


Star Wars.
Yeah.