Is this what you’re trying to do?
It should work. Make sure you right click on the image in imgur and select ‘view image’, which will take you to the proper internet address.
That’s a really good Snoke impression.
I am not concerned about the TV show either, at least with regards to contradicting anything that’s done to the movies. If you start down that path of making sure every product conforms to a strict continuity, forever will it dominate your destiny.
As of now, there are some points I think would be useful for the project’s guidelines:
Continuity. Does this change help tie the movies together? Not all changes have to, but it’s a plus.
Practicality. How realistic or doable is the change?
Motivation. How does the change benefit the narrative? (a flimsy rule atm)But I think we should still have enough levity for some edits just because they’re “cool”.
Some other things I think could be important are (4)seamlessness and (5)runtime. Seamlessness: can the change be made and still feel professional? Now, there could be radical changes to the movies, but I don’t think the movies should be completely redone, if that makes sense. I think the basics of each movie should be kept, mainly because I like the idea of somebody watching these edits and maybe not initially realizing it is a fan edit, just a lot better than they remembered. I do think maintaining a decent runtime is crucial, and it shouldn’t go under a certain length, because it being too short would make it feel not like a realistic version of the movie, to me at least.
Good guidelines. So as a general rule, continuity would be the most important of these, correct?
If so, perhaps one way to organize this edit would be to come up with a set of changes that forms a subplot linking all of the prequels and beyond. There are many loose threads to follow here, such as:
1: What is the plot of TPM? What does the Trade Federation want? What is Palpatine cooking up? He is surely working on the clone army, what foreshadowing can we concoct?
2: What happened to Sifo-Dyas? How does Tyrannus fit into Palpatine’s plan? Is the Death Star a plan of the Geonosians, or something else?
3: Where did Grevious come from, and what makes him more than a random stock villan? If Plagueis was around in TPM, does that change the film?
You can see how most of these questions arise from confusion about Palpatine’s master plan. Perhaps the organizing principle of these edits is to illuminate this plan.
Well obviously I’m exaggerating, he only wants to rape them, and only the hot young ones.
Let’s maybe calm down here.
But you guys really think he actually wants to solve problems, let alone problems that actually exist? Are you really this gullible?
Sure he wants to solve problems. But since he seems to think that a trade deficit with a country equates to that country getting a ‘better deal’ than us, it’s safe to assume that he has no earthly idea how to solve them.
Having strict continuity between all films is a good place to start with this idea, but could the idea be extended to apply to character actions and plot issues?
For example, in AOTC there are some real issues with characters acting inconsistently like when Obi-wan jumps out an open window after urging restraint in the previous scene.
I have a few other ideas like this for Episode 2, and in a collaborative thread we could probably come up with many more. It would probably help to have separate threads for each movie.
I’ve thought a lot about this too!
Eventually I came to the thought that maybe Obi-Wan is a little more reckless than he likes to believe. He wants to be the perfect master for Anakin, but he was only 25 when he became Anakin’s Master, and he might be more brash like Qui-Gon than he thinks he is. So when he says, “I hate it when he does that”, I take it more as he hates when Anakin shows that he has inherited more of Obi-Wan’s more reckless traits than he would like, like jumping out of a window. I think making Obi-Wan choose to train Anakin rather than being forced to by Qui-Gon’s dying wishes could help with this as well.
That’s at least one interpretation, but regardless you do bring up good points about some of their antics in this scene being a little outlandish. But these kind of questions would be good for discussion! I would to talk about your other ideas too. And maybe separate threads for each movie would be a good idea. I guess I could put links to each thread in the first post of this one?
Yeah, this would be a good ‘catch all’ thread for saga-spanning ideas, but I expect most of the changes would be contained to the single film.
I suppose one of the big questions out of the gate is whether this project would use deleted scenes, even if they were in standard definition. AOTC’s deleted scenes really improve the story.
I’ll hold off on making more movie-specific suggestions until there are threads for them, but in broad strokes for the prequel trilogy I’d like to see a more cohesive narrative with more understandable characters, even if it means taking some dramatic measures to achieve, since cutting the things that don’t work can take you only so far. I’m thinking along the lines of subtitling the Neimoidians and writing/performing entirely new lines for Jar Jar. Maybe giving more story importance to Naboo (that huge generator room should really have some purpose), and generally finding ways of framing the unfortunate aspects of the trilogy in ways that negate their terribleness.
I feel like the OT and ST are of lesser importance, simply because there’s less obviously wrong and there’s currently a horde of editors at work on TLJ.
Here’s a version of Paul Shipper’s Dolby Cinema poster I made using the highest quality bits I could find:
I have gotten back to where I was before in editing!
Here’s a change that I’ve been working on that I would like some help with:
https://vimeo.com/260659255
Password: VaderI feel like 2004 JEJ doesn’t mesh well with 82 JEJ, and I can’t make “the” sound right. Does anybody have any advice? Thanks!
The final ‘e’ of ‘the’ isn’t pronounced enough. You could use another ‘ee’ sound like the end of ‘will be’ and blend it into that section.
Emperor’s Eclipse preview
Password: Sheev
Looking at this again, it would help to show a closeup of the docking bay from the outside, like in the original film with the Death Star.
I’m very interested in working on such a project! After watching Hal’s Episode 2 (The Approaching Storm), it fired up my imagination as to what might be possible with prequel edits. That version makes the characters and romance almost bearable, an impressive feat in its own right, and with a few more effects-heavy edits it could be improved even more.
Having strict continuity between all films is a good place to start with this idea, but could the idea be extended to apply to character actions and plot issues?
For example, in AOTC there are some real issues with characters acting inconsistently like when Obi-wan jumps out an open window after urging restraint in the previous scene.
https://youtu.be/KPt1am18lR4?t=22m51s
In imagining what could be possible with some vfx wizardry, we could have Zam pull up beside the window in her speeder and cut a hole in the glass, through which she would ty to shoot Padme with her blaster. Anakin runs into the room and deflects the blasts with his lightsaber, then he leaps out the window and grabs onto the speeder. He is knocked around a bit and pulls out his lightsaber, finally losing it. Then we see that Obi-wan is following in a yellow speeder, and catches the lightsaber.
An edit like this solves many problems, such as why Jango hired another assassin for this job (he doesn’t want to get his hands dirty at such close quarters), why Obi-wan acts so recklessly (he doesn’t, he just goes and finds a speeder like a normal person), and how Jedi can do such silly death-defying falls and still manage to keep track of a single small speeder in an endless city (all removed by necessity).
I have a few other ideas like this for Episode 2, and in a collaborative thread we could probably come up with many more. It would probably help to have separate threads for each movie.
Probably a combination of 5 and 6.
…oh that says streaming.
Just 6 then.
I can see why the Tech inclusion is odd, since it’s quite saturated compared to ESB and ROTJ which are a bit desaturated even compared to the clips used in the original RLM video.
It might help to reduce the saturation of Han’s conversation with Ben in the Cantina 20-25%, since that got a lot less saturated when transferred to home video.
Here’s the final version of the Leia and Kor Sella scene for TFA: Restructured:
https://mega.nz/#!fYkB3JqT!vuMKA13Sbr9KLtpdzn0WBOLG_tPBZJJ-x0tkG8IMhok
It was lengthened with additional dialogue and repeating part of a shot to make it function like a full scene.
I might just re-cut all the non-special edition parts from harmy’s editions to just give it a consistent feeling for the Original Trilogy clips. There aren’t that many clips from the OT so it shouldn’t take that long.
Since Harmy’s using my project for V3 of Despecialized, doing the Tech version for ANH and Despecialized for the sequels would be a bit of future-proofing.
Oh, you probably didn’t recognize him because of the red arm
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I really like that crawl, Neverar. I almost wish I didn’t like it as much as I do so I could offer some constructive criticism.
Thanks, I’m also pretty pleased with it.
Now if I could only fit some hint of the Starkiller Base in there without making it too wordy…
What a strange glitch.
It’s not out yet.
That’s why I was unsure of it. I thought Hal was implying that R4 followed him somehow, despite being just a dome. 😃
Hal’s edit cuts that scene, and it’s not missed.
Just noticed something else that was strange. The Chapter titles like ‘Padme Addresses the Senate’ and ‘Padme’s Family’ actually looks like ‘Padm✓© Addresses the Senate’ and ‘Padm✓©’s Family’ in VLC, with the checkmark and copyright symbols.
The solution to all of this is simply to watch Restructured instead! 😄
To ChainsawAsh you listen.
Since the correction looks a bit green to me, I’d be interested in the first one for sure.
Just watched this new version, and it’s most impressive. With the 720p version, some of the deleted scenes look almost as sharp as the rest.
I almost don’t want to bring attention to any potential issues, but there was one thing that sounded out of place - at the end of Dooku’s discussion with the Separatists, the eavesdropping Obi-wan turns his head and there is the sound of an astromech. Is this sound supposed to be there?
I’ve been playing with a lot more ideas for the crawl recently. In one, Luke is suspected by the Republic of secretly being the leader of the First Order, in an attempt to give some actual mystery to the Supreme Leader (at least for a while). But it was a bridge too far.
Here’s one that is more in the spirit of the original TFA crawl, going so far as removing all reference to Starkiller Base:
EPISODE VII
THE FORCE AWAKENS
The galaxy is in turmoil.
Luke Skywalker, last of
the Jedi Knights, has
vanished.
During his long absence,
an evil FIRST ORDER
has risen from the ashes of
the Empire to put an end to
the Jedi religion. Without
its mystic knights, the
New Republic accepts these
incursions as the cost
of preventing war.
Only one general,
unable to accept this open
aggression, forms a covert
RESISTANCE and sends
her finest pilot in search
of the last guardian of
peace and justice in the
galaxy…
I’m glad they didn’t go this route, primarily because the old characters would overshadow the new.
