NeverarGreat

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

And those are ESB helmets (black grilles)

How can you tell, at this resolution?

It looks like it’s been cut off, maybe due to aggressive matte work?

ForceGhostRecon said:

The official digital print is terribly dark. I had to brighten it in premiere just to make it watchable.

Definitely needed.

Here’s my attempt in Photoshop:
https://diff.pics/C8g5VfMXbhos/1

I just used low quality images from the internet, hence the proliferation of digital artifacts.

Possessed said:

NeverarGreat said:

the ‘The’ inside the ‘O’

Somehow I knew this would get ripped out of context. 😃

So now it’s 1986?

Much worse.

DuracellEnergizer said:

This is indeed a disturbing universe.

Anakin Starkiller said:

NeverarGreat said:

Anakin Starkiller said:

So glad that this minor mystery that she, by her actions, made peace with in TFA is now her central character flaw.

Why would something she’s come to terms with become a flaw? If anything, it would eliminate a flaw.

I take it the remark I was responding to was sarcastic.

Yes.

DominicCobb said:

NeverarGreat said:

He hasn’t even met her before she’s realized the truth of her parentage.

‘Dear child, you already know the truth. Whomever you’re waiting for on Jakku…they’re never coming back. The belonging you seek is not behind you, it is ahead.’

So glad that this minor mystery that she, by her actions, made peace with in TFA is now her central character flaw.

Of course you cut out an important part of that dialogue

Maz: “They’re never coming back. But there’s someone who still could.”
Rey: “Luke”

Actually forgot that part, but it doesn’t really change the point.

As Kylo notes in TLJ
“You can’t stop needing them. It’s your greatest weakness. Looking for them everywhere - in Han Solo, now in Skywalker.”

Her flaw is not the mystery, nor simply coming to terms with the fact that they’re never coming back. It’s relying on them or someone else in that role to guide her. The fact that they’re nobody isn’t devastating to her because it means she’ll never see them again, it’s because it means she doesn’t have an easily understood preordained story to follow (like being a Skywalker would), she has to figure one out for herself.

I don’t think Rey waited her whole life for her parents to return simply so they could reveal ‘her place in all this’, but because she wanted a family.

Wanting a family with whom to belong isn’t a weakness, it’s a strength. Of course it’s typical Kylo to make that mistake, but it shows the limitation of using his reasoning on Rey’s character flaws. Rey might have gone to Luke’s island ostensibly for the Resistance and for his guidance, but her real reason was to find a genuine belonging that she has lacked her entire life. If Luke had been that kind, fatherly figure that she imagined, she wouldn’t have gone to Kylo as a last resort, to find some sort of decency that even Luke couldn’t muster for her.

When Kylo instead dives further into nihilistic abandon, telling Rey that what she’s searching for is a preordained place in the story, it’s his warped interpretation of her journey. He’s trying to give her what she wants, to the best of his understanding. But she doesn’t care about all that, not really.

So if Kylo was lying and her parents really were super secret Jedi or Skywalkers or Kenobis or Palpatine’s granddaughter, it wouldn’t make any difference to her. The fact that they never came back is all the evidence she needed in TFA that they didn’t care, and that she’d need to move on. This scene needed to directly threaten Rey’s journey, but it is a big swing and a miss, in terms of challenging her.

When Vader was revealed to be Luke’s father, it struck at the heart of Luke’s journey to be a Jedi. He wanted to be a Jedi like his father, and he never dreamed that his father could be anything but good. It was a revelation engineered for the audience to be sure, but more importantly it was put in place to directly challenge Luke.

When Kylo reveals that Rey’s parents are nobodies, it is no revelation except maybe to the conspiracy-minded audience members. Rey already knows it, and more importantly has known since TFA that they’re never coming back. If Kylo had made some argument to Rey that Luke, Finn, Leia all cared about Rey because of her powers and that he alone cared about her as a person, that might have struck closer to her core journey. But instead Kylo clearly only cares about her for her power, whereas Finn cares about her regardless. It’s a simple choice for her to reject that sort of temptation, and she does so even before the end of the movie.

It was a scene by, for, and to the audience, not Rey.

Anakin Starkiller said:

So glad that this minor mystery that she, by her actions, made peace with in TFA is now her central character flaw.

Why would something she’s come to terms with become a flaw? If anything, it would eliminate a flaw.

I don’t have an issue with the schlock value (as someone born in '87 it’s extra nifty), just that the text is genuinely hard to read.

regularjoe said:

I find his character uncompelling, uninteresting not-even-evil-lite and he’s the reason that I don’t really like either TFA or TLJ (I am a big fan of both R1 and Solo). I just can’t invest in his character and that really undermines watching the sequel trilogy because it basically leaves me without an antagonist. I like the rest of the movies just fine, there’s things with all four that I wish that they invested more in, but Darth Brat just doesn’t sell it for me.

What specifically about the character do you find uncompelling? Certainly he’s an unlikable brat, but that’s stock-in-trade for movie villains. Put another way, would his character have been better if he had been stronger or scarier?

That too. I assume it was supposed to be the alien probe ball?

He hasn’t even met her before she’s realized the truth of her parentage.

‘Dear child, you already know the truth. Whomever you’re waiting for on Jakku…they’re never coming back. The belonging you seek is not behind you, it is ahead.’

So glad that this minor mystery that she, by her actions, made peace with in TFA is now her central character flaw.

That white on yellow text.

Maybe the ‘The’ inside the ‘O’ of ‘Lion’?

Three words isn’t enough to do anything other than vomit forth a sort of fetid, rambling incoherence. It needs to be at least a sentence, maybe even a paragraph.

I see that you too are a man of culture.

Galaxy Quest

Perfection.

Spuffure said:

What is your favorite movie time period? As in 1920s, 1930s, 1940s, ect.

Seriously, look at the movies from that year.

Incidentally…

Continuing from the big picture thoughts and discussing this further with others, I’m rather confident that the notion of borrowing is itself an intrinsic part of TFA. Obviously the film borrows heavily in plot and character from other Star Wars films, but more than that our heroes are an amalgam of what has come before. Rey is literally a scavenger, and this is key to her identity.

So what if Rey’s power in the Force was to ‘scavenge’ the abilities of people/things through the Force?

There is a lot of evidence for this interpretation - in fact every time she uses the Force in this movie it is an imitation of an ability she has just witnessed. It’s no stretch to think that she’s also gaining this ability directly from the person who is demonstrating this power.

As for how to communicate this in the edit, how about editing the ‘You need a teacher’ scene to include Rey remembering dialogue from previously in the film? I am imagining fragments of dialogue such as at least three instances of characters calling her a Scavenger, including herself. Maybe take some dialogue from TLJ where Kylo says ‘you’re not doing this’ or ‘this is something different’, indicating that we’ve never seen this particular power before. The point is to place enough emphasis on the idea of scavenging that Rey understands her power and why she needs a teacher to cultivate a power that is truly her own.

Oh, and it might be cool to reprise her drawing from the history of Anakin’s lightsaber to defeat Kylo Ren:
https://mega.nz/#!rNEknIDZ!4Be7Ys5TWgfM5yRfrDBu8Lyt0cFkYXIemOfyzsZxGbA
(I have limited access to Premiere right now)

The Hippopotamus (2017)

No Hippopotamuses 0/10

Seriously though I found this movie quite enjoyable, and am quite surprised at the low RT score.

https://www.slashfilm.com/bill-george-star-wars-resistance/

oojason said:

^ from https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/8l9imu/cant_wait_to_see_solo_so_there_is_my_star_wars/

Well that’s striking.

TV’s Frink said:

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snooker said:

He shot Rogue One.

Oh my god is Rogue One ok?

4.7/10