I’d argue that this is actually a flaw in ANH, and the evidence is in ESB. Part of what makes Luke’s desire to fight Vader so compelling is precisely because he was robbed of this moment in ANH.
So yes, a flaw, but one that ends up working to the trilogy’s benefit overall.
Interesting, I’ll have to put that back in!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjuLcceCm-U
Kylo Reacts makes me smile.
You owe me a new mouse wheel.
Seriously though, fantastic work.
It’s by far my favorite of the official ST posters.
Hello there!
How egalitarian of you.
Yes! Sending Poe, Finn, and Rey together on an adventure is what should have happened from the beginning.
I don’t think Ep 9 feels significantly different than Eps 7 or 8, tonally. The sequel trilogy has been quite Marvely since the beginning, so it’s something I’ve gotten used to. It would actually feel weirder at this point to have something tonally similar to ESB cap off the entire saga.
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Hmmm…what’s this?
That’s like, the 5th sequel to that 70’s Star War.
I hope they win.
The issue with that is that Rey’s purpose in the plot doesn’t become clear until after she finds BB-8, and if cut that way I fear it would feel like a non sequitur between the exposition heavy crawl and the village attack. However if Rey finds the droid at the end of her scenes the first day, her part flows naturally into the larger story.
How is it a big budgeted film can’t get Yoda spot on but a dedicated fan can?
Also, TLJ Yoda needs a fun nickname like Creepy Puppet Yoda™ has.
The Lumpy Jowl Yoda™
And this is why Star Wars tends to not do flashbacks.
Maybe if the pan up into the stars was extended/stylized and accompanied by some (non harp 😉) music so it was fairly clear that this wasn’t literally happening overhead at that moment, then the pan back down to BB-8 in a clearly new situation would sell it.
It’s probably the sort of idea which is heavily dependent on execution, but I wanted to gauge if the flashback angle was a bridge too far even in concept.
So here’s an idea that has been bouncing around for a while, and it uses the old false starfield.
Original concept: https://vimeo.com/311822845
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Previously the best idea for using this opening was to cut from Rey eating dinner to the Finalizer flying overhead, cutting to night in between the two shots or something to that effect.
However with the new images I’ve created of BB-8 sitting outside of Rey’s house at night, a new option becomes available. Rey finds BB-8 and brings the droid home, then BB-8 facilitates the transition to the Finalizer as a flashback. Perhaps BB-8 looks up at the stars and the camera pans up to the moons and the Finalizer, carrying the plot on from there. Cut from Finn being accosted by Phasma to Poe being tortured, then return to the theatrical progression of scenes (Rey arriving in town, Escape of Poe and Finn, Crash landing, etc…). The reversion to the theatrical ordering is a slight downside for me, but a potential upside is that the crawl might not need to be quite as plot heavy. It would need to reference the disappearance of Luke, the rise of the First Order, and the existence of the Resistance, but this could be communicated in two paragraphs with the final paragraph focusing on the plight of planets such as Jakku and the repercussions of the devastating Civil War.
SomethingStarWarsRelated said:
I think what’s slightly jarring is that the camera movement as it is now is not “flowing” with the shot before…if that makes sense. BB8 is moving from left to right, but the next shot has more movement (mostly from 3PO) on the far left (not too mention a large wookie) so your eyes don’t quite know where to look.
Something that might help with that shot is to zoom in slightly (can you center the 3 dudes or add more of Liea?)…and possibly position the frame closer to the bottom, and then have it slowly rise up…maybe even pulling back out a bit…as if it could’ve been an alternate angle filmed with Poe kneeling with and BB8. Am I making sense? 😄
I’ll play with it some more and report back 😃
Concerning the final scenes, it becomes more and more clear that I need to show BB-8’s contribution to the map or else the Resistance looks that much worse for failing to search R2. So I’ve extended the TLJ musical cue to give the map scene more time to breathe. There are also a few small changes to the Luke dream I’m sure you’ll spot:
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The music transitions are really top notch and the bright dream affect is superb, I personally wouldn’t blur luke at the beginning instead leaving it till the end of the dream so that it remains more subtle.
Would it be better if I were to replace the rocks behind Luke and have him fade in totally independent of the surroundings?
Well if Yoda had recovered and kept his lightsaber in Episode 3, that would be a good reason to stay and loot the room. To communicate this cromulent concept, I would recommend altering the deleted scene of him building his lightsaber so that he instead just puts the Yoda saber into a bigger handle.
Since I’m planning on removing Rey from this scene, that shot is a no-go. There really isn’t any other reaction shot to use, and I’ve already lengthened the existing reaction shot as much as I dare. Originally the Resistance + Rey reactions were together and sort of acted as one which allowed them to be so brief, but since that’s no longer possible I’m out of options.
Touche.
Lucas should have given Obi-wan a robot leg in the ANH Special Edition in 1997 so that people would have speculated endlessly over the next 8 years about when during the prequels he lost it, then never have him sustain this injury, making it clear that it just happened sometime later and had no bearing on the plot.
And he could have made it C-3PO’s missing gold right leg.
Well see now that’s almost interesting, so it would have never happened.
Lucas should have given Obi-wan a robot leg in the ANH Special Edition in 1997 so that people would have speculated endlessly over the next 8 years about when during the prequels he lost it, then never have him sustain this injury, making it clear that it just happened sometime later and had no bearing on the plot.
Yeah, doubtful.
^Seriously? Did they actually release something like that?
Also
Concerning the final scenes, it becomes more and more clear that I need to show BB-8’s contribution to the map or else the Resistance looks that much worse for failing to search R2. So I’ve extended the TLJ musical cue to give the map scene more time to breathe. There are also a few small changes to the Luke dream I’m sure you’ll spot:
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