NeonBible

I managed to find a torrent of a LD rip! However no seeders and only got up to 75% of the file. I managed to salvage what I got so far and can confirm When Love is Gone is in there in widescreen.  However the quality is not great.  I'd be happy to watch this version if only I could get the complete file.

Or does anyone out there have the laserdisc and is willing to rip this properly?

Yup, US cut is HD and extended Japanese cut is an extra in SD.

Apparently the extended version on the Japanese BD is available in SD only. So the same as the previous DVD.

This would still make a good project! The BD is getting a release but from reviews sadly it doesn't contain the DC or the extra song as an extra.

That's a really interesting and puts some perspective to this project. So is that guy right? Are the only differences in the rear channels?

What 97 mix is this?

Thats great news! And thanks for the effort in keeping this alive.

Looking forward to seeing it.

Will you consider making a x264 version?

A shame this will not be out in September.  I been eagerly awaiting this for years.

But at least the project is not dead!

Didn't someone here created a fanedit of Duck You Sucker with the original mono? ADM?

Zombie's WP is a beta at the moment right?

Good job Jetrell :)

Well let me know if you track it down.

Sorry to go off topic here but has anyone seen the fanedit "Blade Runner White Dragon Cut"? Seems to get good reviews but doesn't seem readily available from the usual sources.

For anyone who has seen it, what are your thoughts?

Amen to this!

And September is still one hell of a wait away.

ElDonante said:

NeonBible said:

Ok I managed to get it working.  Since I do not have a BD drive I had to get the movie from 'elsewhere'.  My first video file had messed up FPS setting which is why it was failing with tsmuxer.  I found another one which reported it correctly as 23.976fps.

Once question, when I view the codec info in VLC, is it supposed to report the track as DTS-HD MA? It simply says DTS audio on mine.  I didn't check box marked 'downconvert to DTS'.

You'd have to have the proper CODECs installed to decode the DTS-HD MA audio, my understanding is if the transport cannot handle DTS-HD MA, it will default to decoding the DTS core (lossy) stream that's contained within the DTS-HD MA track.  In that case, you're still hearing the original mix, it's just not lossless.

If anyone notices any discrepancies with sync and the DTS-HD MA track, please update the thread.  I was only able to test using 5.1 PCM because I only have access to free and open source tools.  I'm confident that the DTS-HD MA track that borisanddoris was able to encode is identical, but I won't be able to test it out until I finish the download and perform the same steps you all are taking ;)

Thanks.  Thats very interesting to know.  I did not realise it contains lossy DTS core in side of it.  I dragged the resulting .m2ts file back into tsmuxer and confirmed it is still a DTS-HD MA track.

And relating to that, I don't actually have a 5.1 system.  I simply have a BD player connected to my TV via HDMI.  So if I watch a BD with a DTS-HD or TrueHD track, what happens to the sound? Do I get a lossless (albeit downmixed to stereo) or a lossy signal?

Ok I managed to get it working.  Since I do not have a BD drive I had to get the movie from 'elsewhere'.  My first video file had messed up FPS setting which is why it was failing with tsmuxer.  I found another one which reported it correctly as 23.976fps.

Once question, when I view the codec info in VLC, is it supposed to report the track as DTS-HD MA? It simply says DTS audio on mine.  I didn't check box marked 'downconvert to DTS'.

ElDonante said:

This preservation requires that you have the original, store-bought Blu-ray.  It also requires that you rip the movie to your hard disk via your preferred method of ripping.  You'll only need the movie, not anything else.  My vote goes to MakeMKV since it'll work on Linux, Windows, or Mac OS X.  Many people fancy AnyDVD HD (which came in very handy when I was frightened that my HD-DVD player would stop working one day and I can confirm that it is a solid piece of ripping software).  Once ripped, you'll have a large 20GB+ M2TS video file.  Keep it in a memorable place.

Since I love cross-platform tools, the next tool you'll need is tsMuxer.  tsMuxer is the tool you'll use to multiplex (mux) your DTSMA file with your M2TS file.  If you're using the GUI, simply drag your M2TS and DTSMA files to the "Tracks:" section of tsMuxer's GUI.  From here, you'll be able to select your destination type.  The choice is ultimately yours, however I chose M2TS because I will not be exporting to physical media.  You can choose to output in a Blu-ray or AVCHD compliant file structure for exporting to physical media if you so desire.

OK finally managed to grab this! Thanks to ElDonante and borisanddoris.

Trying to mux in the track using tsMuxer however it keep getting "reading buffer overflow. possible container streams are not synchronized. please verify stream fps."

Can anyone help?

Good job guys! Its amazing you managed to get the theatrical mix.  Now the question is, how does the theatrical mix compare to the LD DTS track?

RU.08 said:

^^That was posted a year ago. :(

^^^^ :o Amazing you were able to find it! It's been OOP for like a decade! I can't remember when I bought mine it was that long ago! :) Before that I had the movie on VHS. These days I'm a big Paul Verhoeven fan.. well except for Hollow Man, that movie sucked! What a way to end your hollywood career!

Well I bought it second hand, so its not that rare.

I do have the Trilogy DVD set but as you know it's cropped and as a blue tint, so just had to snap up the CC one!

digitalfreaknyc said:

Considering Criterion is rumored to be releasing this on blu, you might not need this for long.

Where did you hear that? I only bought Robocop Criterion on DVD last year.  I agree with RU.08, still looks the best today despite its graininess.  Also doesn't work too well on my HDTV due to the aspect ratio! So would welcome this upscale until the Blu is released.

dark_jedi.  Is there any chance this can be converted to a < 8gb AVCHD which I could be burned onto a dual layer DVD?

Correction, I meant the R6 DVD not R8. I also read that the Chinese DVD has a mix closer to the theatrical soundtrack than the Superbit (which have more prominent surround effects).  Still, I'm sure the LD track is a lot truer.

ElDonante, are you not able to install the older drivers?

Did you know there is an R8 DVD from China which has a different DTS track to the others?

I read about it and apparently its comparable to the Japanese Superbit DVD.  Has anyone got this and know how it compares?

I was wondering how a audio track from a LD can be extracted without quality loss? As I believe it is analog.

Just wanted to say thanks for this. 

I don't have a Blu Ray drive on my PC, so had to get the movie again from another source.  Couldn't quite find a version which which is near enough BD quality but thought I'd test it anyway.  Audio track syncs up well, with no issues.  Sounds great! No more silencer gun sounds, just good old punchy mono!

:)