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#1445811
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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It’s one of the most impressive special effects shots I’ve seen in this edit (not to lessen any other work that’s been done), especially given the original scene is practical effects in broad daylight.

And any references to TLJ Luke that can be put in this thing greatly improve the continuity. I’ve said it before, but probably the single most baffling thing about all of TROS is that TLJ ended with Luke’s legend spreading hope across the galaxy, TROS ends with individuals from across the galaxy uniting together, and there is NO direct connection between the two. It’s like TROS was written by… no one?

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#1445317
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Took five minutes to find a sound effect and threw it on Sherlock’s clip, so here’s my example of what I’m suggesting, in case anyone’s curious:

https://vimeo.com/590825596/5aba74544d

CaptainFaraday said:

I’ll try that when I get the chance - the hum of a lightsaber that’s just been activated might be enough to disguise it successfully. The ignition sound doesn’t even need to cross over the dialogue, the hum would be a better sound anyway.

Edit: I misunderstood your comment, BUT, I think the way I interpreted it might solve the problem! I’m imagining:

“And I…” (SNAP-hiss, vrmmm) “…am a Jedi.”

I’d be curious to hear this version too, but I’m not sure there’s enough time visually, as we see her un-ignited saber til right before she talks.

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#1445302
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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A sudden thought upon rewatching that “I am a Jedi” clip: could we get a noticeably audible Skywalker Saber ignition sound in there?

When she catches Anakin’s/Luke’s/Rey’s saber behind her back, it’s turned off, and then when things go silent and she says “… am a Jedi,” she pulls it up already turned on. I think it would be nice if, after she says “I am a Jedi,” right as she pulls up the saber, we hear it loudly ignite off-screen as the sound that breaks the silence of the moment (rather than the growing crackle of the lightning).

It would really solidify her declaration of being a Jedi, and the idea that she’s taking up the Skywalker legacy, if in that moment we clearly hear that iconic, distinctive lightsaber sound, for the final time.

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#1445089
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Chase Adams said:

Somehow I feel like V4 worked a little better…

Can’t speak for everyone else though.

I agree here. I think ideally, I’d like a v4 (the “end” seems to hit harder there) with a very brief pause after “Leia told me…” for dramatic effect.

However, I personally think v4 or v5 are now passable enough in execution, and worth it as a concept, that the line should be added to the movie, either in its current state or in a further-improved version.

Since Hal seems to like v5 enough, I vote upgrading the line’s status from “Things being considered” to “Things waiting on others,” with the final product being whenever Sherlock is satisfied.

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#1444770
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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There has been a little talk before about possibly doing a “v1.5” later in the year, but that’s all ultimately up to Hal, both with his satisfaction with the project and his availability to work on it. Some of this stuff is pretty close to completion, though, so maybe a bit more patience would be best (or a few more talented volunteers, and fewer peanut-gallery members like myself).

The crackling saber has proven especially challenging, passing through several hands due to the scale of the project and irl personal priorities. Movies Remastered at least is still active on the forum, but I’m not sure if they’ve had time to work on it lately, or how much is left to be done on the project as a whole.

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#1444757
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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oviniboy said:

Guys, what about the island scene? What’s left to complete it?

According to the front page:

  • Leia sensing the end of her Jedi path. Sherlockpotter was working on it earlier this week and it seems to be going along well. The v4 is sounding really great.

  • Luke’s haircut. Jonh has been gone since May, probably busy with real life, but last we heard he was still working on it.

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#1444711
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Agreed with Jar Jar. Captain Hux isn’t seamless enough to pass yet imo.

I wonder if it might sound more natural, should no other option be available, by removing the “Hux.” Kylo says “Captain?” and Hux timidly answers, still getting the point across. Maybe with a slightly longer pause before “Captain?” in this scenario.

I never minded him being General, personally, though I appreciate the idea behind the demotion.

Puppet show is excellent btw.

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#1444643
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Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread
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Size definitely played a part in it. The Supremacy was sliced like a knife (though the debris went crazy), so it’s clear that a collision results in a ship-sized puncture rather than completely atomizing the target as some people speculated.

There’s any number of other factors potentially at play too. The Supremacy’s shields were likely at low power or even off due to pursuing at max speed while firing volleys at their target, and the Resistance ship was close enough to collide during the start-up of a light-speed jump before properly entering hyperspace. Who knows, a second more of preparation by Hux may have foiled the whole thing.

Which is exactly why I, and others, dislike that line in TROS. As Hal9000 mentioned in his notes for his edit, the “Holdo maneuver” being extremely impractical in most combat situations should already be understood by the characters in-universe. The critical nerdy audience may say “why don’t they just do that all the time,” but the obvious answer is “because they normally can’t.” We didn’t get characters saying “why don’t we just kamikazee the Death Star at light speed” in A New Hope, and we didn’t need them to say that; they studied the building plans, they know how lightspeed works, and they came to a non-kamikazee solution based on their knowledge, and none of those details matter to the audience.

Not to mention the chipper delivery and naming of the move are horrible in context of the scene. “Why don’t we just commit a bunch of suicide bombings, like that admiral that had to make a split-second sacrificial decision in a horrible lose-lose situation? Mass suicide bombings is a good plan for us to come up with now, while we’re sitting safely at our base concocting a strategy for a future battle, with very few ships in our fleet, and no pilot droids who could do it for us, if droids’ programming even lets them do that. So who’s volunteering first?”

The line is purely an awkward, out-of-place 4th-wall wink to fans that hate that the maneuver even exists, so why even have the line at all to remind people?

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#1443421
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Worst Edit Ideas
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Hal 9000 said:

Out of Darkness

If I was making a TROS edit that changed the title, I’d unironically pick this one. Both for the sentence thing and to purposefully reference Abrams’ other terrible sci-fi franchise sequel that brings back a classic villain in a bad way and has the protagonist come back to life at the end.

It also just sounds like a good pulpy sci-fi title and fits TROS really well, better than it did Trek’s actually. The Final Order coming out of the darkness of Exegol and the unknown regions, Palpatine returning from death, Rey learning and rejecting her dark heritage, and Kylo coming back to the light.

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#1442420
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Star Wars Episode II: The Approaching Storm (Released)
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Hm, it’s pretty subtle, but I do think it’s an improvement. Of course, because it is subtle, don’t feel like you need to go too out of your way if implementing it proves difficult. The movie’s still great as is!

BTW, sorry if, between this and the TROS thread, I tend to be too critical without having much to offer. I don’t intend it, but I’ve noticed lately that I have a habit of only chiming in on this site to say “I’m not sure about that idea/execution.” You’ve done incredible work on all of your edits, as have the others here who have offered their talents.

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#1441983
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Star Wars Episode II: The Approaching Storm (Released)
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DrVibble said:

Hi Hal, here’s my next review.

I absolutely loved this edit. AOTC is probably my second-least favourite SW film (TPM being my least favourite), as it’s just so painful to watch. But this edit simply transforms the film, and for the first time in my life, I got genuine, even considerable enjoyment out of watching Episode 2.

I’ll start with the biggest part: the romance plot. This was the biggest improvement of The Approaching Storm for me; where this romance was previously fatal levels of cringe, it now comes across as genuinely quite endearing. The largest factor to this is of course the way you re-arranged the scenes, giving the whole romance a far more belivable and compelling development. Even the cringey-but-inescapable scenes like the tick-cow ride and the floating pear dinner come across as much less painful than before because they flow much better, they feel more believable. Moving the kiss to the end of the romance arc, and removing the oh-so-infamous sand monologue, raised the sub-plot as a whole by a considerable amount. I will say that the musical transition out of the kiss scene to Obi leaving Kamino felt quite abrupt, but that’s pretty much my only problem. Although, I can’t help but notice that after the kiss at sunset, the next time we see the two is in their pyjamas the next morning…

My next favourite part was Anakin’s improved characterisation. It’s incredible the impact a few removed lines and some re-arranged scenes can have, but Anakin comes across so much more mature in TAS. I particularly loved his trimmed conversation with Padme (“Master Obi-Wan manages not to see it.” “All mentors have a way of seeing more of our flaws than we would like. It’s the only way we grow.” “I know.” This just flows soooo much better, and it’s such a simple change at that) and the now wordless embrace before Anakin leaves to find his mother. It says so much more about their growing relationship, and is more emotional.

The deleted scenes sprinkled throughout were all great, particularly Padme’s Senate address, which combined with the brilliant new opening crawl (despite how many times I’ve seen AOTC I still can’t remember a single part of the crawl, but this one jumped off the screen) was a very efficient and effective opening. Padme’s family was a far superior scene to the convo with the Queen (that scene always bugged me because you can see a very clearly contemporary building right outside the Queen’s window). The brief conversation with Anakin, Padme and Dooku raised one very interesting line: “The Republic cannot be fixed.” I felt that one line adds a whole new element to the political plot of the PT; though the Separatist movement is a smokescreen for the Sith, that line is actually still completely true. Food for thought. The scene between Obi-Wan and Windu on the landing platform did come across as quite wooden, hence why it was probably excised, but it’s much better story- and character-wise than the Jedi Temple convo with Obi, Windu and Yoda.

There are too many other things I loved about this edit to list here (the more focussed third act, the clever way you cut the factory set piece to have Anakin free Padme, less grating presence of Boba, generally improved action throughout), and I can only really think of a handful of small problems: the intercut nature of the romance plot with Obi’s investigation could feel like a bit too much of a juxtaposition (though this’ll likely fade with future watches), the aforementioned abrupt musical transition out of the kiss, and I felt that the cuts to get around Yoda v Dooku were a bit (unavoidably) clunky. In short, I think this is a miracle of an edit, a permanent replacement of AOTC. Awesome work!

I hope I’m not laying it on too thick here, I just really loved this edit.

I think the abrupt cut from the kiss is a limitation of the original source, where Padme cuts their kiss short out of regret. I think the transition could be smoothed by inserting a different shot of the lake area at “sunset” after the kiss, letting the audience use their imagination and giving time for the music to linger before the transition, but I’m sure Hal doesn’t want to go back to these edits again (and there might not be a good shot to use/reuse).

As for editing the movie to imply they slept together, I believe that originates all the way back to the original Episode II edit, “Attack of the Edit” by The Phantom Editor. And there’s a good reason people keep editing it like that: it sells the forbidden romance so much better than the theatrical, because they’re actually having a forbidden romance instead of just discussing whether or not they should have one.