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There’s also, unfortunately but importantly, the meta fan aspect of it. Even though attempting to please franchise fans rather than focus on the ST’s contained story is a recurring problem in TROS, it does arguably have value in that this is the “final Skywalker Saga episode” (a point which this very fan project is trying to emphasize with stuff like Palpatine vs Ghosts). And I think that a not-insignificant amount of people would much rather see Luke and Leia’s ghost than Ben’s ghost during the final moments at the homestead.

I don’t necessarily disagree with any of that. Although if Rey were to “marry” her name would be Solo, and I don’t just mean that in a literal sense; if the movie was edited so that Rey looked and saw only Ben, it makes it even weirder that she then suddenly takes the name “Skywalker.” It’s less like a “force marriage” and more like she’s declaring herself to be his relative (insert Empire Strikes Back incest joke here).

Of course, Rey claiming the name “Solo” instead of “Skywalker” is an idea that’s been thrown around a lot since the movie came out. It represents her connection with Ben, it’s a tribute to Han and Leia as her closest mentors, and it’s simultaneously a nod to the Rey Nobody aspect in a meta-way, as the Solo movie established that “Solo” is a made-up name from when Han had no family name of his own. But this project is probably past the point of such a suggestion (especially if the title’s not changing), and anyways the voice-dub and lip-sync work probably isn’t feasible.

Would rather hear one of the album versions of Lapti Nek.

The opening crawl of RotS says there are “heroes on both sides,” despite that never being reflected in the movie. To compensate, we should edit medals of valor and sacrifice onto the chests of General Grievous, the leaders of the Separatists on Utapau and Mustafar, and various battle droids in each scene. Grievous in particular should have several Purple Hearts.

BedeHistory731 said:

Replace all of the soundtrack with Spongebob music.

This is my favorite.

CamSMurph said:

Hal 9000 said:

^ MR appeared not to take it well when I hushed him about raising a sensitive subject about a now-banned member and expressed something to the effect of walking away, either temporarily or permanently.

Sort of an unintended parting gift from that other member, in effect. It sucks, and I hope he returns, but I don’t want to stall things indefinitely and would like to see V2 get finished sooner rather than later.

What exactly did he say? 🤨

Read through the past pages if you’re interested, it wasn’t too long ago. For his sake I don’t think we need to keep dwelling on this.

CaptainFaraday said:

Here it is without the lightsaber.

This is actually my favorite so far.

IV: the medal ceremony music is replaced with Jedi Rocks
V: Jedi Rocks begins playing as part of Han’s torture when he is lowered onto the torture table in Cloud City
VI: I like Lapti Nek, so let’s move Jedi Rocks to the end instead, to replace Yub Nub/Victory Celebration

I: Anakin presses the wrong button in the starfighter and says “oops” as Jedi Rocks plays (I might be subconsciously stealing that from The Ridiculous Menace)
II: Jedi Rocks is playing during Anakin and Padme’s romantic dinner and fireside chat
III: Jedi Rocks is the new Order 66 montage music (this is the only non diegetic use of the song in the saga)

VII: when Rey puts on her helmet while sitting alone on Jakku, Jedi Rocks plays inside the helmet
VIII: Larma D’Acy and Connix hear Jedi Rocks over the radio when trying to call for help on Crait
IX: Poe, Finn, and Chewie are listening to Jedi Rocks as they play holochess

dgraham414 said:

CaptainFaraday said:

Finally. I’m as happy with this as I’m ever going to be with the current audio sources, frankly, so now it’s up to group consensus to decide what they think of it.

https://streamable.com/x0pdfq

Does the saber ignite twice in this audio?

I believe the “bzzt” as Rey lifts up her arm is the crackling of the lightning coming back through the silence of the scene. It doesn’t sound like the Skywalker saber ignition usually does (if anything, it almost sounds like a saber turning off), and you can still hear similar sounds again after the full audio comes back.

On Ach-To in TROS, when Luke says “you have everything you need,” begin a montage of Rey using her engineering skills to repair her wrecked ship with the assistance of Luke, with “Jedi Rocks” as the music for the montage.

Knight of Kalee said:

Maybe the lightsaber activation sound could blend better if it came right after she says “I’m a Jedi”? (it’s been a while since I last catched up with the discussion on this thread so forgive me if this has been talked about earlier haha).

That idea was mentioned. Faraday moved the sound up so that the ignition/hum might disguise any unfixable issues with the line delivery (which seems to have worked, as most criticisms are now about the saber sound and not the line).

Icecream2448 said:

The old SW movies used clearly flipped shots sometimes. I’ve suggested using this excuse before, but if all else fails… claim it’s a reference!

Using flipped shots just makes a scene “rhyme” with itself. It’s like poetry.

Sherlock’s take on the Leia convo is fantastic! Not too short I think, and much less awkward than the theatrical.

I also like it ending on “find the Emperor,” given that it’s the scene that sets our hero’s goal going forward. Yes, they need to get to Exegol, and for that they need to find the wayfinder, but the audience couldn’t care less about that. The Emperor is what matters.

Jar Jar Bricks said:

I agree it sounds less jarring but that it also doesn’t have the right inflection. Honestly not sure if I prefer that or not.

I’m certain that’s why we passed over it. It sounded more natural, but I think it was decided that the sentence needed more emphasis on “end.” The moment is supposed to be a reveal, but that old version sounds too casual.

It will probably come down to how close the crackling saber gets. I think that’s the biggest remaining thing in both importance and effort. If whatever set date rolls around and someone is still actively working on it, might as well wait a bit longer.

I’d be glad to see some of jonh’s polishing up come through as well, though I appreciate what’s been completed so far.

TestingOutTheTest said:

Ed Slushie said:

I was thinking about how Krausfadr said that hopefully people would continue looking at ways to move Palpatine’s reveal to later in the movie, and I just thought of something: What if it were moved to the midpoint, right after Rey escapes the Star Destroyer? It would go something like:

• Kylo feels he’s failed at getting Rey to team up with him against Palpatine
• Kylo goes to Exegol to try and kill Palpatine by himself
• Palpatine reveals he’s dying (someone already altered that scene to have him say “I don’t have long”) and offers to make Kylo the new Emperor
• Kylo is told to kill Rey
• The next time we see him he’s on Endor, seemingly ready to do just that (we’d need to remove some dialogue, but that shouldn’t be hard because a lot of what he says in that scene is spoken off-screen anyway).

Why wouldn’t Palpatine want to do the spirit ritual with Ben if he’s dying?

Tbh, I think that’s a fair question even of the theatrical movie, where Palps’ body is basically a cyborg corpse from the beginning. The answer in both cases could be that he still fears Rey and wants Kylo to take her out without risk to himself, a plan which he changes after Kylo fails and Rey comes to him willingly.

I don’t mind the screams. Maybe Rey having a strong personal connection with the past evil of the dagger helps better sell her ability to detect it and navigate with it.

It is more straightforward without the screams, though.

Kylo said he did it on purpose to test Rey, and also wouldn’t he have known about the second transport? I don’t think Kylo ever assumed he actually killed Chewie.

How does Kylo get to Exegol in this scenario? The theatrical is already relying on the audience not minding that, at some point between movies, Kylo figured out that Palpatine is on Exegol, and that the only way to get there is with a wayfinder, and that Vader had a wayfinder on Mustafar. It would be weird to move this scene to the middle of the movie (he somehow finds out where the wayfinder is, goes to Mustafar and grabs it, zooms over to Exegol, makes a deal with Palpatine, and still gets to the Death Star at the same time Rey does?), but it would also be a bit odd if he found it at the beginning and then just didn’t use it.

You also might need a bit more… something, to sell the urgency and legitimacy of the Resistance’s quest and Rey’s inner conflict. If we haven’t seen Palpatine in the flesh yet, the first mention of him in the movie will be Poe’s “somehow, he returned,” which now becomes even more laughable. The audience would be thinking, “What? They’re risking everything because they heard some guy say Palpatine has ‘returned?’ They know Palpatine was in the Death Star when it blew up, right?”

“Leia has sent her spies, Rick Sanchez and Ariana Grande, to Tomato Town to investigate the rumors of Palpatine’s return…”

I don’t have a problem with the concept of her taking the name, but I always thought the “Rey who?” was awkward. Such an on-the-nose setup, almost like a knock-knock joke where the punchline is the title of the movie.

RogueLeader said:

WOMAN: There’s been no one for so long. Who are you?

Rey looks over at the ghosts of the Skywalkers, then looks back.

REY: A Skywalker.

I really like this. Feels much more natural, if the audio and visuals would allow for the lipsync.

Obviously they meant the Star Trek Enterprise theme.

CamSMurph said:

Hal 9000 said:

We currently have completed:

• Duel in Kylo’s quarters
• Duel on the DSII
• Everything on Exegol

Still needed are:

• Opening training sequence (I can’t boot into Sierra right now to check, but it claims to be created last year so I think this is just kewlfish’s original, but it could be from Luka Frik and be finished)
• Underground with the worm, and faceoff with Kylo’s TIE
• “I think you’re okay” on Kijimi

Care to explain these changes in more detail please? 🙂

That’s just a list of all scenes where the Skywalker saber is lit. The first three already have the crackling effect added to the blade by editors here, the last three don’t have finished crackling effects yet.

Could the whole scene be rescored? Or are the dialog and music too heavily integrated into the same audio channels?