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CaptainFaraday said:

Here it is without the lightsaber.

This is actually my favorite so far.

IV: the medal ceremony music is replaced with Jedi Rocks
V: Jedi Rocks begins playing as part of Han’s torture when he is lowered onto the torture table in Cloud City
VI: I like Lapti Nek, so let’s move Jedi Rocks to the end instead, to replace Yub Nub/Victory Celebration

I: Anakin presses the wrong button in the starfighter and says “oops” as Jedi Rocks plays (I might be subconsciously stealing that from The Ridiculous Menace)
II: Jedi Rocks is playing during Anakin and Padme’s romantic dinner and fireside chat
III: Jedi Rocks is the new Order 66 montage music (this is the only non diegetic use of the song in the saga)

VII: when Rey puts on her helmet while sitting alone on Jakku, Jedi Rocks plays inside the helmet
VIII: Larma D’Acy and Connix hear Jedi Rocks over the radio when trying to call for help on Crait
IX: Poe, Finn, and Chewie are listening to Jedi Rocks as they play holochess

dgraham414 said:

CaptainFaraday said:

Finally. I’m as happy with this as I’m ever going to be with the current audio sources, frankly, so now it’s up to group consensus to decide what they think of it.

https://streamable.com/x0pdfq

Does the saber ignite twice in this audio?

I believe the “bzzt” as Rey lifts up her arm is the crackling of the lightning coming back through the silence of the scene. It doesn’t sound like the Skywalker saber ignition usually does (if anything, it almost sounds like a saber turning off), and you can still hear similar sounds again after the full audio comes back.

On Ach-To in TROS, when Luke says “you have everything you need,” begin a montage of Rey using her engineering skills to repair her wrecked ship with the assistance of Luke, with “Jedi Rocks” as the music for the montage.

Knight of Kalee said:

Maybe the lightsaber activation sound could blend better if it came right after she says “I’m a Jedi”? (it’s been a while since I last catched up with the discussion on this thread so forgive me if this has been talked about earlier haha).

That idea was mentioned. Faraday moved the sound up so that the ignition/hum might disguise any unfixable issues with the line delivery (which seems to have worked, as most criticisms are now about the saber sound and not the line).

Icecream2448 said:

The old SW movies used clearly flipped shots sometimes. I’ve suggested using this excuse before, but if all else fails… claim it’s a reference!

Using flipped shots just makes a scene “rhyme” with itself. It’s like poetry.

Sherlock’s take on the Leia convo is fantastic! Not too short I think, and much less awkward than the theatrical.

I also like it ending on “find the Emperor,” given that it’s the scene that sets our hero’s goal going forward. Yes, they need to get to Exegol, and for that they need to find the wayfinder, but the audience couldn’t care less about that. The Emperor is what matters.

Jar Jar Bricks said:

I agree it sounds less jarring but that it also doesn’t have the right inflection. Honestly not sure if I prefer that or not.

I’m certain that’s why we passed over it. It sounded more natural, but I think it was decided that the sentence needed more emphasis on “end.” The moment is supposed to be a reveal, but that old version sounds too casual.

It will probably come down to how close the crackling saber gets. I think that’s the biggest remaining thing in both importance and effort. If whatever set date rolls around and someone is still actively working on it, might as well wait a bit longer.

I’d be glad to see some of jonh’s polishing up come through as well, though I appreciate what’s been completed so far.

TestingOutTheTest said:

Ed Slushie said:

I was thinking about how Krausfadr said that hopefully people would continue looking at ways to move Palpatine’s reveal to later in the movie, and I just thought of something: What if it were moved to the midpoint, right after Rey escapes the Star Destroyer? It would go something like:

• Kylo feels he’s failed at getting Rey to team up with him against Palpatine
• Kylo goes to Exegol to try and kill Palpatine by himself
• Palpatine reveals he’s dying (someone already altered that scene to have him say “I don’t have long”) and offers to make Kylo the new Emperor
• Kylo is told to kill Rey
• The next time we see him he’s on Endor, seemingly ready to do just that (we’d need to remove some dialogue, but that shouldn’t be hard because a lot of what he says in that scene is spoken off-screen anyway).

Why wouldn’t Palpatine want to do the spirit ritual with Ben if he’s dying?

Tbh, I think that’s a fair question even of the theatrical movie, where Palps’ body is basically a cyborg corpse from the beginning. The answer in both cases could be that he still fears Rey and wants Kylo to take her out without risk to himself, a plan which he changes after Kylo fails and Rey comes to him willingly.

I don’t mind the screams. Maybe Rey having a strong personal connection with the past evil of the dagger helps better sell her ability to detect it and navigate with it.

It is more straightforward without the screams, though.

Kylo said he did it on purpose to test Rey, and also wouldn’t he have known about the second transport? I don’t think Kylo ever assumed he actually killed Chewie.

How does Kylo get to Exegol in this scenario? The theatrical is already relying on the audience not minding that, at some point between movies, Kylo figured out that Palpatine is on Exegol, and that the only way to get there is with a wayfinder, and that Vader had a wayfinder on Mustafar. It would be weird to move this scene to the middle of the movie (he somehow finds out where the wayfinder is, goes to Mustafar and grabs it, zooms over to Exegol, makes a deal with Palpatine, and still gets to the Death Star at the same time Rey does?), but it would also be a bit odd if he found it at the beginning and then just didn’t use it.

You also might need a bit more… something, to sell the urgency and legitimacy of the Resistance’s quest and Rey’s inner conflict. If we haven’t seen Palpatine in the flesh yet, the first mention of him in the movie will be Poe’s “somehow, he returned,” which now becomes even more laughable. The audience would be thinking, “What? They’re risking everything because they heard some guy say Palpatine has ‘returned?’ They know Palpatine was in the Death Star when it blew up, right?”

“Leia has sent her spies, Rick Sanchez and Ariana Grande, to Tomato Town to investigate the rumors of Palpatine’s return…”

I don’t have a problem with the concept of her taking the name, but I always thought the “Rey who?” was awkward. Such an on-the-nose setup, almost like a knock-knock joke where the punchline is the title of the movie.

RogueLeader said:

WOMAN: There’s been no one for so long. Who are you?

Rey looks over at the ghosts of the Skywalkers, then looks back.

REY: A Skywalker.

I really like this. Feels much more natural, if the audio and visuals would allow for the lipsync.

Obviously they meant the Star Trek Enterprise theme.

CamSMurph said:

Hal 9000 said:

We currently have completed:

• Duel in Kylo’s quarters
• Duel on the DSII
• Everything on Exegol

Still needed are:

• Opening training sequence (I can’t boot into Sierra right now to check, but it claims to be created last year so I think this is just kewlfish’s original, but it could be from Luka Frik and be finished)
• Underground with the worm, and faceoff with Kylo’s TIE
• “I think you’re okay” on Kijimi

Care to explain these changes in more detail please? 🙂

That’s just a list of all scenes where the Skywalker saber is lit. The first three already have the crackling effect added to the blade by editors here, the last three don’t have finished crackling effects yet.

Could the whole scene be rescored? Or are the dialog and music too heavily integrated into the same audio channels?

It’s one of the most impressive special effects shots I’ve seen in this edit (not to lessen any other work that’s been done), especially given the original scene is practical effects in broad daylight.

And any references to TLJ Luke that can be put in this thing greatly improve the continuity. I’ve said it before, but probably the single most baffling thing about all of TROS is that TLJ ended with Luke’s legend spreading hope across the galaxy, TROS ends with individuals from across the galaxy uniting together, and there is NO direct connection between the two. It’s like TROS was written by… no one?

What’s currently incoherent/unpresentable? Are you keeping some spots open for yet-to-be-finished additions, or are there bits and pieces of incomplete changes already integrated?

Not that I’m in a rush on the “v1.5” idea. We’ve already waited this long, and 1.0 is still solid for showing newbies.

Took five minutes to find a sound effect and threw it on Sherlock’s clip, so here’s my example of what I’m suggesting, in case anyone’s curious:

https://vimeo.com/590825596/5aba74544d

CaptainFaraday said:

I’ll try that when I get the chance - the hum of a lightsaber that’s just been activated might be enough to disguise it successfully. The ignition sound doesn’t even need to cross over the dialogue, the hum would be a better sound anyway.

Edit: I misunderstood your comment, BUT, I think the way I interpreted it might solve the problem! I’m imagining:

“And I…” (SNAP-hiss, vrmmm) “…am a Jedi.”

I’d be curious to hear this version too, but I’m not sure there’s enough time visually, as we see her un-ignited saber til right before she talks.

bbghost said:

Relies on the surrounding rescue of Chewie being re-edited a bit but I like keeping this sequence intact anyway: https://vimeo.com/549085906

That’s really solid! I like that version a lot.

A sudden thought upon rewatching that “I am a Jedi” clip: could we get a noticeably audible Skywalker Saber ignition sound in there?

When she catches Anakin’s/Luke’s/Rey’s saber behind her back, it’s turned off, and then when things go silent and she says “… am a Jedi,” she pulls it up already turned on. I think it would be nice if, after she says “I am a Jedi,” right as she pulls up the saber, we hear it loudly ignite off-screen as the sound that breaks the silence of the moment (rather than the growing crackle of the lightning).

It would really solidify her declaration of being a Jedi, and the idea that she’s taking up the Skywalker legacy, if in that moment we clearly hear that iconic, distinctive lightsaber sound, for the final time.

Chase Adams said:

Somehow I feel like V4 worked a little better…

Can’t speak for everyone else though.

I agree here. I think ideally, I’d like a v4 (the “end” seems to hit harder there) with a very brief pause after “Leia told me…” for dramatic effect.

However, I personally think v4 or v5 are now passable enough in execution, and worth it as a concept, that the line should be added to the movie, either in its current state or in a further-improved version.

Since Hal seems to like v5 enough, I vote upgrading the line’s status from “Things being considered” to “Things waiting on others,” with the final product being whenever Sherlock is satisfied.