Mrebo

yhwx said:

Mrebo said:

CatBus, just as one shouldn’t ignore the beginning of the 2nd Amendment, one shouldn’t ignore the “the right of the people to keep and bear Arms.” When you recall that the 2nd Amendment was a restriction on the federal government and a preservation of state authority, the existence and meaning of each phrase makes perfect sense. You’re correct there are legal theories for all kinds of rights not explicit in the Constitution.

How would you feel if the second amendment were to be repealed?

As a fan of federalism and someone who appreciates that self-defense and hunting are legitimate activities and basic liberties, not good. States should have broader authority to restrict firearms. Let Texans have their guns but outlaw them in NYC if that’s what they want. Even if it can’t go that far, given that we have the 14th Amendment, there are greater restrictions on firearms that might be allowed.

CatBus, just as one shouldn’t ignore the beginning of the 2nd Amendment, one shouldn’t ignore the “the right of the people to keep and bear Arms.” When you recall that the 2nd Amendment was a restriction on the federal government and a preservation of state authority, the existence and meaning of each phrase makes perfect sense. You’re correct there are legal theories for all kinds of rights not explicit in the Constitution.

TV’s Frink said:

Mrebo said:

What weirdness. I thought we were having a grand old time till the cops showed up. I said we should move the party!

Ah the cops are the problem in this case just like the guns aren’t the problem in every other case. Ok.

I think dogs acting like cats are the problem. Over in that other thread cops are usually the problem. I’m sure the truth lies somewhere in between.

dahmage said:

maybe stop treating the moderators like the enemy and we can all enjoy this site together?

In “Bringing Up Baby” (1938), a psychiatrist said, “the love impulse in man frequently reveals itself in terms of conflict.”

In other words, stop getting in the way of love.

What weirdness. I thought we were having a grand old time till the cops showed up. I said we should move the party!

TM2YC said:

Mrebo said:

CatBus said:

Mrebo said:

People can’t be killed by knives and domestic violence can’t happen at a school. Learn something new everyday!

The rate of death is lower with knives than guns. Learning is a process that should never stop. And apparently non sequiturs about domestiic violence can happen anywhere at all.

You cannot say that there is any greater chance these two people who are now dead would be alive if not for the gun. You can’t.

You know the saying “That guy brought a knife to a gunfight”. What do you think it means?

All you need to know:

CatBus said:

Mrebo said:

As a non-gun person, this is about reason and logic. It’s emotion and fear when any story involving a gun is said to prove that guns need to be banned.

The story doesn’t prove anything that wasn’t proven long ago, it just prompts questions about whether we’re going to do anything about it or kick the can down the road a few more years.

I do care about the Constitution’s protection of liberty too. If you wish to deny people a basic right of self defense or hunting with a gun, that will take a very long time no matter what party is in power. And sometimes people are going to hurt other people. If you want to talk about how certain kinds of guns or certain kinds of people pose a danger, fine. But the OMG a gun view doesn’t seem reasonable to me.

As a non-gun person, this is about reason and logic. It’s emotion and fear when any story involving a gun is said to prove that guns need to be banned.

CatBus said:

Mrebo said:

People can’t be killed by knives and domestic violence can’t happen at a school. Learn something new everyday!

The rate of death is lower with knives than guns. Learning is a process that should never stop. And apparently non sequiturs about domestiic violence can happen anywhere at all.

You cannot say that there is any greater chance these two people who are now dead would be alive if not for the gun. You can’t.

TV’s Frink said:

It’s harder to kill someone with a knife than a gun and it’s even harder to kill lots of people with a knife than a gun. This should be extremely obvious, but since it’s not, learn something new every day!

Well the event I’m still addressing concerns 2 people killed, not lots. In general it’s easier to kill someone with a gun, but it is easy with a knife too. The differing amount of effort is no consolation to a dead person.

People can’t be killed by knives and domestic violence can’t happen at a school. Learn something new everyday!

This movie would be inordinately better if it were “Lando: A Star Wars Story”

oojason said:

Mrebo said:

Death and violence is not going to end, subject to a total remaking of the world.

Indeed mate - though many places in the world thankfully don’t have as many (or anywhere near the number of) school shootings.

We should focus on making schools safe! For the particular story I’m commenting on, would we rather this domestic dispute happened off campus? Sure, but I don’t think that’s the most important thing that happened her. Nor would I have been more pleased if a car or knife had been used.

oojason said:

chyron8472 said:

dahmage said:

chyron8472 said:

dahmage said:

chyron8472 said:

TV’s Frink said:

Ok.

So why would you hate it then?

Why don’t you do another armchair diagnosis?

No. Bitter, are we?

lol, see.

but no, really, i just don’t know why you choose to return in this way. Meaning, you dug out a several day old post about a nonsense topic and started asking about it. I assume you had a reason other than antagonizing?

Because it was on the previous page? Because not everyone reads everything everyone says on a forum as soon as they are posted? Because this is the Random Thoughts thread?

Take your pick.

Maybe when you’re quoting old posts and asking questions of people you should read back to the start of the topic.

This post makes no sense to me.

CatBus said:

Mrebo said:

TV’s Frink said:

Mrebo said:

Death and violence is not going to end, subject to a total remaking of the world.

Of course the Republican solution is generally “therefore let’s not even try to reduce the death and violence.”

What I see in that story is a domestic dispute ended in 2 deaths. Tragic but not the kind of story indicating there is one good solution.

I’d still much rather read a story about a domestic dispute ended in 2 injuries. Same violent world, different outcome.

That’s nothing more than wishful thinking. I’d like the same thing.

TV’s Frink said:

Mrebo said:

TV’s Frink said:

Mrebo said:

TV’s Frink said:

Mrebo said:

Death and violence is not going to end, subject to a total remaking of the world.

Of course the Republican solution is generally “therefore let’s not even try to reduce the death and violence.”

What I see in that story is a domestic dispute ended in 2 deaths. Tragic but not the kind of story indicating there is one good solution.

Was not referencing that story.

That’s what I was responding to.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I know, Mr. One Arm Floating Hand. I was not.

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In that case, I disagree with your statement, but not worth arguing.

Be kind to the handicapable.

chyron8472 said:

Mrebo said:

chyron8472 said:

TV’s Frink said:

chyron8472 said:

TV’s Frink said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Frink will hate this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXxOiacFpCc

Because it’s a video?

I thought he was saying you’d hate it because it’s a video of a slideshow.

Ok.

I wasn’t saying you did. I was saying that’s what I thought he was posting it for. I’m not sure why you would be bothered by a dog who supposedly acts like a cat.

Maybe because a self-respecting dog wouldn’t do that.

I wouldn’t classify dogs as having self-respect when they publicly lick their own junk.

Speak for yourself!

Obviously we need to create a thread to explore Frink’s problem with a dog who acts like a cat and the psychological reasons for both Frink and the dog.

TV’s Frink said:

Mrebo said:

TV’s Frink said:

Mrebo said:

Death and violence is not going to end, subject to a total remaking of the world.

Of course the Republican solution is generally “therefore let’s not even try to reduce the death and violence.”

What I see in that story is a domestic dispute ended in 2 deaths. Tragic but not the kind of story indicating there is one good solution.

Was not referencing that story.

That’s what I was responding to.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

chyron8472 said:

TV’s Frink said:

chyron8472 said:

TV’s Frink said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Frink will hate this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXxOiacFpCc

Because it’s a video?

I thought he was saying you’d hate it because it’s a video of a slideshow.

Ok.

I wasn’t saying you did. I was saying that’s what I thought he was posting it for. I’m not sure why you would be bothered by a dog who supposedly acts like a cat.

Maybe because a self-respecting dog wouldn’t do that.

TV’s Frink said:

Mrebo said:

Death and violence is not going to end, subject to a total remaking of the world.

Of course the Republican solution is generally “therefore let’s not even try to reduce the death and violence.”

What I see in that story is a domestic dispute ended in 2 deaths. Tragic but not the kind of story indicating there is one good solution.

Death and violence is not going to end, subject to a total remaking of the world.

Pah, roads and bird feeders, my internet is down!

It is a very blustery day.