I’d be bothered if I married someone and they didn’t take my last time.
Same though I’d make peace with it. I have conflicted feelings about my name so it’s not totally coherent, I just like having that sameness.
To be fair, I hope Trump nominates a woman to the Supreme Court on Monday. However I think it will be Raymond Kethledge.
Who cares if the fascist waste of life that he nominates is male or female?
Diverse fascism seem more legit.
Non-sarcastically, it counters the annoying narrative about mostly white male majority vs diverse minority on the Court.
That’s the first I’m hearing of that narrative.
I hear about it, but not often.
Maybe the complaints about the supposed narrative are a Fox News staple or something. Sounds like something they’d run into the ground.
I’ve not watched Fox in years, not since Hannity was in diapers.
Why do I try with you people?
You people?!
It’s a question many of us ask every so often.
To be fair, I hope Trump nominates a woman to the Supreme Court on Monday. However I think it will be Raymond Kethledge.
Who cares if the fascist waste of life that he nominates is male or female?
Diverse fascism seem more legit.
Non-sarcastically, it counters the annoying narrative about mostly white male majority vs diverse minority on the Court.
That’s the first I’m hearing of that narrative.
If there is no longer a conservative justice willing to join with the liberals on the biggest social issues, then the white male majority narrative can take hold.
To be fair, I hope Trump nominates a woman to the Supreme Court on Monday. However I think it will be Raymond Kethledge.
Who cares if the fascist waste of life that he nominates is male or female?
Diverse fascism seem more legit.
Non-sarcastically, it counters the annoying narrative about mostly white male majority vs diverse minority on the Court.
I liked history, I guess, and math. I just had a little anti-social job that I kind of enjoyed. I actually really hated college for the most part, but I did finish a four-year degree. I’ve not been unemployed since I was fourteen or fifteen and I can afford to do nothing so why not? It’s my life, I can waste it however I see fit. And I see working as a waste of time too.
Be nice if you wasted it in a more enjoyable way. Travel. Sitting at home counting the hours is definitely a waste of time.
To be fair, I hope Trump nominates a woman to the Supreme Court on Monday. However I think it will be Raymond Kethledge.
Sort of related, when I got married to my wife, at the rehearsal I told the pastor I wanted him to say “I present [my first name] and [her first name] [my last name]” at the end instead of “[her first name] and [my full name]” (the latter of which is how he was going to word it, probably because he was her pastor and it was her parents’ church). They both gave me a look when I said that like I was asserting myself over her by putting my first name first, so I had to explain that I simply liked putting her first name with my last name.
So you were doubling down on your sense of ownership? 😉
But seriously,!I’m betting she really likes having your name.
What do you want to do?
Nothing, really.
What subject matter did you enjoy in college? What kind of job did you have there?
I must be blessed to not suffer any white male guilt.
You’re not blessed. The concept of pervasive white guilt is so overblown. 99% of people with functioning brains don’t feel guilty about their gender or race.
Aw, I thought I was special.
I think you’re right. Somehow though, the idea gets great promotion and a moral cachet it doesn’t deserve.
I must be blessed to not suffer any white male guilt.
You’re not blessed. The concept of pervasive white guilt is so overblown. 99% of people with functioning brains don’t feel guilty about their gender or race.
However privilege, and the privileged blindness to it, is quite real.
Maybe I am special!
(By which I mean “special” in the sarcastic sense.)
I expect that in an increasingly egalitarian society diversity occurs naturally.
Let me know when it happens.
I think it’s happening all the time.
I must be blessed to not suffer any white male guilt.
These are the kinds of posts I’m referring to when I say I have no idea what the hell you’re trying to say most of the time, although I usually know that at a minimum I’m going to roll my eyes, if not be outright hostile.
That would be unlike you.
I think the meaning is abundantly obvious. I don’t spend time or energy worrying about diversity. I recognize the historical reality where certain people didn’t have the same opportunities and it’s good to be aware of potential bias. But these quotas enforced by well-meaning mostly white males makes me roll my eyes. I expect that in an increasingly egalitarian society diversity occurs naturally.
it wasn’t abundantly obvious (hasn’t this forum taught us anything about misunderstandings? hehe).
I am still a bit confused if you are just saying you are glad you are non-white, or you are mocking what you perceive as white-guilt in the rest of us (as if that is the only reason to be inclusive?)
I’m saying I am glad I don’t feel any especial burden. Whether anyone else here does as a result of their being white and male is for them to know. As should be clear I’m all for diversity that should naturally occur.
I must be blessed to not suffer any white male guilt.
I understand that likely certain of my ancestors are probably responsible for bad things having happened to minorities in this country, but I’m not responsible for that. I take no ownership of it. I understand being in poverty is a hard cycle to escape, and that our culture shows preference to certain types of people over others, but I play no (knowingly) active part in that.
To some degree, I genuinely feel that people need to be responsible for themselves and stop blaming the rest of society. For example, I understand that the colonists that appeared in America back in the day did horrible things to the Native Americans. I understand that much of the Native American population is poor. But at some point I really don’t see the value in the United States government giving reparations to them anymore. I’m fairly certain people in Europe conquered other people in Europe over the centuries, and I doubt many of the conquered over there get reparations for it. I know that sounds callous, but I still feel that way.
Well I agree.
I must be blessed to not suffer any white male guilt.
These are the kinds of posts I’m referring to when I say I have no idea what the hell you’re trying to say most of the time, although I usually know that at a minimum I’m going to roll my eyes, if not be outright hostile.
That would be unlike you.
I think the meaning is abundantly obvious. I don’t spend time or energy worrying about diversity. I recognize the historical reality where certain people didn’t have the same opportunities and it’s good to be aware of potential bias. But these quotas enforced by well-meaning mostly white males makes me roll my eyes. I expect that in an increasingly egalitarian society diversity occurs naturally.
I must be blessed to not suffer any white male guilt.
What do you want to do?
Have you read “A Confederacy of Dunces”? I highly recommend and would be curious your opinion in particular.
I’ll look into it.
In what way do the jobs make you sick? Ever had a job that you enjoyed?
They make me sick because the only jobs I can get are ones that involve me being approached by person after person and talking on the phone with strangers about things that I don’t know and that makes me literally sick to the point of nearly collapsing. I’ve had one job that I enjoyed but it was an old college part-time campus job that obviously I can’t do these days.
That sounds awful. Aren’t there any jobs you’d want to do near you?
Have you read “A Confederacy of Dunces”? I highly recommend and would be curious your opinion in particular.
In what way do the jobs make you sick? Ever had a job that you enjoyed?
I’ve decided recently that I am no longer going to put forth any effort whatsoever into being a productive member of society and will just quit my job, hide inside, and wait patiently for all of my money to run out, which will actually take a good year or two as long as I don’t waste too much of it. I feel the need to announce this but since I have no family members that have any interest in what I have to say and no friends I figured I’d post it in here where it’s against the rules for anyone to make fun of me.
What made you think this is the way to go? What kind of job do you have?
Person B is rarely (if ever at all) saying something is “irredeemably horrible.” It’s almost always just Person A overreacting and assuming they are.
To be precise about this case, it was a series of snarky and dismissive jabs. But reading between the lines isn’t that difficult. Maybe you think I exaggerate with “irredeemably horrible,” but I think you can get the essence of my meaning.
It’s not just semantics, it’s people imagining things that aren’t really being said.
Maybe the discussion hasn’t gone on long enough, but I have faith you’ll get there.
I’m not wrong. Just calling someone a “dick” is pretty fucking far away from “irredeemably horrible.” It’s a gap that goes beyond hyperbole, and won’t be closed no matter how long the discussion goes on for.
This smells like semantics to me. Granted I enjoy the probably unintended irony of “a gap that goes beyond hyperbole” which attempts to chart the supposed outer limits of hyperbole. Answer: there are none.
I meant your specific hyperbole.
I’m giving myself a pat on the back for discovering hyperbole beyond the known universe of hyperbole.
In case you actually need me to clarify (which I somehow doubt), I meant your specific hyperbolic statement.
I’ll take all the praise I can get, even from myself.
Sometimes the claim is that an opinion or phrase is racist or sexist, sometimes like here just jerkish. I was explicitly writing about a general pattern. What appears to be exaggeration (at least regarding the current discussion) isn’t the “heart” of my incisive commentary.
No, you’re right it’s a general pattern, and I think it’s exactly what I describe. Not just on this site but in general on the internet, when people say something is “racist,” “sexist,” or just “jerkish,” others take it to mean they’re condemning the transgressor to eternal damnation, or, at least as mfm said, claiming they’re a “giant pile of sub-human shit that no one would miss if he died tomorrow.”
People exaggerate the extent of the criticism and take it to a deeply personal place that is never ever intended. You can say something racist, sexist, or dickish and still be an okay person. I don’t know what’s so hard to understand about that. And I don’t know why people are more taken aback and upset by someone calling someone else out on being a dick more than that person’s dickish actions. Seems insane to me, but it’s a rampant mentality.
I easily understood mfm as finding something jerkish and funny. Is mfm a jerk for thinking it funny? Nope.
I don’t recall saying he was.
Okay. But you’re not person B. Who is totally imaginary.
Yet that was repeatedly the suggestion and thus it escalated.
Was it?
Sure.
It’s great when a scolding leads an opponent to overreact so one can pretend that overreaction was the initial problem even though it wasn’t.
Um, okay.
De nada.
Person B is rarely (if ever at all) saying something is “irredeemably horrible.” It’s almost always just Person A overreacting and assuming they are.
To be precise about this case, it was a series of snarky and dismissive jabs. But reading between the lines isn’t that difficult. Maybe you think I exaggerate with “irredeemably horrible,” but I think you can get the essence of my meaning.
It’s not just semantics, it’s people imagining things that aren’t really being said.
Maybe the discussion hasn’t gone on long enough, but I have faith you’ll get there.
I’m not wrong. Just calling someone a “dick” is pretty fucking far away from “irredeemably horrible.” It’s a gap that goes beyond hyperbole, and won’t be closed no matter how long the discussion goes on for.
This smells like semantics to me. Granted I enjoy the probably unintended irony of “a gap that goes beyond hyperbole” which attempts to chart the supposed outer limits of hyperbole. Answer: there are none.
I meant your specific hyperbole.
I’m giving myself a pat on the back for discovering hyperbole beyond the known universe of hyperbole.
Sometimes the claim is that an opinion or phrase is racist or sexist, sometimes like here just jerkish. I was explicitly writing about a general pattern. What appears to be exaggeration (at least regarding the current discussion) isn’t the “heart” of my incisive commentary.
No, you’re right it’s a general pattern, and I think it’s exactly what I describe. Not just on this site but in general on the internet, when people say something is “racist,” “sexist,” or just “jerkish,” others take it to mean they’re condemning the transgressor to eternal damnation, or, at least as mfm said, claiming they’re a “giant pile of sub-human shit that no one would miss if he died tomorrow.”
People exaggerate the extent of the criticism and take it to a deeply personal place that is never ever intended. You can say something racist, sexist, or dickish and still be an okay person. I don’t know what’s so hard to understand about that. And I don’t know why people are more taken aback and upset by someone calling someone else out on being a dick more than that person’s dickish actions. Seems insane to me, but it’s a rampant mentality.
I easily understood mfm as finding something jerkish and funny. Is mfm a jerk for thinking it funny? Nope.
Yet that was repeatedly the suggestion and thus it escalated. It’s great when a scolding leads an opponent to overreact so one can pretend that overreaction was the initial problem even though it wasn’t.
‘Heterosexual couple win right to civil partnership’…
???
I thought heterosexuals couples already had the right?
The right to marriage. This couple wanted a “civil partnership” because it’s a more “modern construct”, while marriage has a history with women being given as property.
I’m still waiting for my herd of goats.
I’m a Person and my name is B!
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Oh hi Jay.
I’m cuter, at least by half.
My mother was feeling unusually ill today, so my sister drove her to the hospital. She’s diabetic and her blood sugar was high, so we assumed it had something to do with her diabetes, but it looks like she might’ve actually suffered a small stroke. She’s gonna have to stay in the hospital for a few days for more tests.
And today’s my birthday.
Happy birthday 🐿 despite the unfortunate events hope you do something to enjoy it.
And best wishes for your mother’s recovery.
I’m a Person and my name is B!
I forgot the disclaimer:
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