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#1230640
Topic
Episode VIII : The Last Jedi - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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DominicCobb said:

They’re not in line with rules that people have established based on the previous 6, sure. But there isn’t anything that directly contradicts with what’s actually in the films. It’s only rewriting our perceptions of the universe, not the films themselves.

It’s basic good storytelling to bring the audience along and not suddenly and radically alter the rules. It’s not that audience has established rules but rather took them from the previous material.

No doubt in additional stories various rules are amended or expanded upon. But it’s important to bring the audience along. If the accepted rules change significantly with no good reason, you risk losing the audience.

Thus with Rey many of us are thinking: this is radically inconsistent with what we saw and liked in previous movies.

Some, like me, were hoping for some great reason to appear in E8. Late in TLJ, Snoke basically tells us the reason is the Force forces itself upon people in search of some kind of balance. Even if we choose to believe the Snokester, many of us think that’s lame.

I didn’t like Anakin as a vergence because midichlorians either or the prophecy stuff. All that is something like a precedent for Rey. Introduced that way, I bet more people would have been on board. And recognizing that, I can honestly say that’s still lame.

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#1230449
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If you need to B*tch about something... this is the place
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TV’s Frink said:

dahmage said:

Possessed said:

I only drink skim milk, come at me bro

and i only drink almond milk.

I drink

-Skim milk
-Almond milk
-Soy milk

They all get the job done, which is to suspend my cereal and become a cereal flavored drink, or to add a little more flavor to oatmeal.

Now I see why you’re so sensitive. This should replace TLJ Spoiler thread as the latest divide between fans.

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#1230398
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If you need to B*tch about something... this is the place
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CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

LordZerome1080 said:

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

TV’s Frink said:

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

TV’s Frink said:

That’s silly, nothing is better than Skinny Cow.

Except full fat and sugar ice cream sandwiches.

Well sure if you like being full of fat and sugar.

Also, their logo is creepy

Why is it in such a seductive pose?

To get Trump to buy it. Make low-fat dairy sexy again!

In case I didn’t make clear, I hate the existence of skim milk. There are these people I know who only have skim milk, even for putting in coffee. Ridiculous. If you can’t drink milk with at least 2% fat, you shouldn’t have it.

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#1230200
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Episode VIII : The Last Jedi - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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Chewielewis said:

The fact is RJ went out of his way to make a Star Wars film that challenged everything we know about star wars. About the force, the Jedi, the roles of heroes and villains, politics and economics. It’s very deliberate. And for that reason some people hate it, others think its the best film since Empire.

I think all these nit picks about Jedi training and power levels and admirals not sharing plans with captains are kind of missing the big picture.

What I think is most wrong about this is the suggestion that an abstraction or meta-commentary of Star Wars makes for a good Star Wars film.

In line with what you say, some people think it was a good Star Wars film in addition to that. I think the story is undermined by it.

Being concerned about representation of the Force or other alleged nitpicks may seem like small potatoes, but they’re part of what makes Star Wars. Those things aren’t thematically important but theme isn’t everything.

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#1230118
Topic
Episode VIII : The Last Jedi - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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snooker said:

Mrebo said:

DrDre, one could argue that the Force was never all about lifting rocks and stuff.

[Ben Kenobi said:]

Well, the Force is what gives a Jedi his power. It’s an energy field created by all living things. It surrounds us and penetrates us. It binds the galaxy together.

[Luke Skywalker said:]

The Force is not a power you have. It’s not about lifting rocks. It’s the energy between all things, a tension, a balance, that binds the universe together.

The entire X-wing moves majestically, surely, toward the shore. Yoda
stands on a tree root and guides the fighter carefully down toward the
beach.

Luke stares in astonishment as the fighter settles down onto the shore.
He walks toward Yoda.

  	LUKE
I don't... I don't believe it.

  	YODA
That is why you fail.

If Rey wasn’t pretty confident with her abilities, we’d have Luke’s arc again. All I want, as the viewer, is the most interesting/fun story possible with characters I enjoy watching. The sequels so far have given me this.

The trouble is that we might all agree the Force isn’t about lifting rocks. But a bunch of us understand the Force, contrivance though it is, as it was portrayed in the OT, where supernatural abilities weren’t necessarily important because they were hard-earned, but were hard-earned. Luke’s lesson in the cave or resisting temptation were always more important.

In some ways, the ST portrayal makes the Force more about the amazing abilities because of how much more in your face it all is.

It’s the same incoherence we find in other areas of the film, where the film shows one thing but purports to tell something else. I don’t find that terribly clever or good story-telling.

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#1230102
Topic
If you need to B*tch about something... this is the place
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DuracellEnergizer said:

Mrebo said:

TV’s Frink said:

NO MREBO HUMANS MALES ARE SUPPOSED TO BE ATTRACTED TO THE FEMALE COW SO THEY WANT TO EAT THE PRODUCT THAT CONTAINS FLUIDS FROM THE FEMALE COW

HUMANS ARE DUMB

Your logic is impenetrable to all except DE.

Wrong. I can’t be attracted to a cartoon cow drawn without big fat udders.

You’re welcome.