Mrebo

TV's Frink said:

Mrebo said:

I'm with Warbler on urinals + women. It's weird.

Same question as for Warb then.

It's weird enough peeing by any man. I sense a song in there..."Pee by your man..." I'm not even going to try composing the rest of that verse. But it's a convention. One that grew around a presumption that all the world is straight. At least Warbler treasures those simpler times. Same for locker rooms. Otherwise why not open up locker rooms to both sexes...because gay people. Point is there are different levels of comfort and even if the 'rules' don't work perfectly, they do serve to protect comfort - like the walls between urinals*

As for the EU...use as desired, probably as little as possible. In my humble draft, I've included "Senator Garm Bel Iblis"...because I wanted the Senator of Corellia to say something. Is it worth creating a new name for a mostly minor character, inspiring some nerd rage? Granted, it's sort of a dumb name...

I very much agree, NeverarGreat. Still, just coming up with a great script - so great, people read it and WANT it to be the prequels - would be a triumph.

If someone offered a great overall concept and an outline, or a whole draft of a script that would provide some basis for people to offer changes and additions, perhaps quite major ones. But we'd need to be open to people poking at our 'art.'

I'm of the school that we keep all OT secrets. I want to work from a premise of what the PT would have looked like story-wise if made pre-77. I think there may be room for an Anakin/Obi-Wan centric story, but it is a challenge. Still, plenty of you need greater creative justification of that route. And without showing how it can work, it's hard to sign on to that sort of vision. Just as I'm intrigued about Neverar's unknown character vision, but need convincing.

I've liked CWBorne's work too. And the cross-polination is a good point. There are certain story elements of his I independently chose (Obi Wan crashing to Tatooine at the start) and other's I'm tempted to 'adopt.'

I dislike using bathrooms at work. For an example of a unisex bathroom in a workplace, see Ally McBeal. I'm with Warbler on urinals + women. It's weird. When I was living in Chicago there was a big event on Lake Michigan, and coming back from that with many thousands of people, a hapless young guy had to pee, so he found the nearest tree. Two girls screamed at him, seriously calling him a pervert, etc. That was uncalled for, it was obviously an emergency. Anyway, creating a public room where it's okay for a guy to undo his pants with women around doesn't solve any problem. Plenty of men and women are uncomfortable enough with public bathrooms. And Boost, excellent reason to be a feminist!

Duracell is right, it's so much about the commitment. Collaboration is the hardest part but without it there is no commitment.

Need someway to freely offer ideas, bounce them around, test them.

I like this thread now.

Not only that, but I hate this thread.

Well-to-do parents hire handicapped "tour guides" in order to get their kids to the front of Disney lines. I find the parents loathsome, but it's great for the handicapped people who take their money. If I were one of those tour guides, I'd be upset if the practice were stopped.

On the Crimson Horror....Matt Smith seemed to really let loose more than I can ever remember him doing. I don't know if it was the writing or what. But it was as if he were really making the Doctor more his own. The over the top playful silliness works well for him I think.

I liked the Atari ESB console game - I still have it among my collection.

It is awfully striking; hard to believe it could only be a coincidence that Yoda and Dagoba(h/r) are so connected. I've been waiting for those more knowledgeable to chime in! Possible linguistic connections are also interesting to me, though it's too bad "yoda" is not apparently an "ultra-conserved" word.

May the Eighth Be With You.

I'm reserving the judgment, of course, but I'm sort of on georgec's side. Too pristine looking, I don't know. And tim, I can only imagine that...well, hmmm. People who know the book know what happens? Or those who don't...don't have a clue? But Kingsley can't top his Iron Man 3 performance.

Y'all see this?

Ryan McAvoy said:

I don't hold with the "Because there is more bad than good in the series it stinks" way of thinking. If that was the case then:

- The Rolling Stones are cr*p.

- Michael Jackson's music is cr*p.

- Manic Street Preachers are cr*p.

- Superman films are cr*p.

- Aliens/Predator films are cr*p.

- Bond films are cr*p.

- Star Trek is cr*p.

- Pet Shop Boys are cr*p.

- Prince is cr*p.

- Public Enemy are cr*p.

- John Carpenter is cr*p.

- The Matrix is cr*p.

- Iggy Pop is cr*p.

- David Bowie is cr*p.

I could go on...

People/bands/films/franchises run out of ideas without fresh blood sometimes. Doesn't mean what we initially loved about them is any less frickin' awesome!!!

I agree very much, though to be more accurate (as timdiggerm picks up on) it's less good/bad than overrated/not overrated. But we can call anything overrated if there are a lot of enthusiastic fans (you forgot Justin Bieber and Lady Gaga). I concede the terribleness of the prequels and the EU is often tedious, silly, or just bad. If I'm on my hypothetical deathbed and someone says there were only two good Star Wars movies, I will eke out, "there is another..."

Star Wars (ie the OT) is more immersive than really any other movie I can think of. Its story is earnest yet never takes itself too seriously. The action is fun and other worldly but never overwhelming.

It's disappointing that many fans apparently don't really appreciate those original qualities. So, looking at what many modern fans (and its creator) consider Star Wars, "Star Wars" may be overrated.

But I'm part of that breakaway cult that rejects the modern teachings of the church (Lucasfilm), instead opting for a non-corrupted true Star Wars. And if anything, I think it's grossly underrated nowadays. I hope JJ Abrams can restore balance to the Force...you know what I mean.

Finally I've got myself up to day. I enjoyed Angels Take Manhattan but I continue to be bothered by Matt Smith's apparent inability to display anguish. It doesn't help the the storyline doesn't really incorporate any sense of grief. Although, in Hide, perhaps we are given clues about his true feelings, with Clara being the key to the Doctor's dysfunction. Or not. I also see no reason why the Doctor and Amy/Rory might not be reunited. Watching Angels, it resurrected the thought that Darvill could actually make a very engaging Obi Wan. I have a pretty decent idea for how the show might one day reveal the Doctor's identity so I am curious why the Doctor's name is being given increasing importance and a possible reveal.

Whitewash starring Thomas Haden Church. Extremely well done. Basically a story of the human condition, an unfortunate series of circumstances, a man and his snowplow. Okay, not so much the last one, not truly anyway. No real "resolution" but the circumstances are such that no resolution is needed. Don't want to spoil it in any way, good to go in blind and just enjoy the story.

*gallic shrugs*

On the topic of potatoes, potato chips were once called "Saratoga chips" - a term used even in an Oz book.

I know it will happen! I prefer Jedi War to Holy War.

Some of you have studied film or from personal study might know. To make a quality production, what would it take to make a movie? I know the sky can be the limit or just a boy and his camera is even a possibility, but what would be the basic necessities? What would a $50,000 vs $1,000,000 production look like? What would you want for a camera? Film vs digital? If you were going to make a movie, realistically how would you do it?

Good thinking about Owen/Beru not truly knowing Anakin. Very good.

I like the alien twist on Ants in Pants.

Charlie and the Chocolate Factory 2 - an aged Charlie Bucket (played by William Shatner) holds a contest to find an heir to take over the factory. Striking Oompa Loompas, forced out by mechanization, provide welcome but odd musical interludes about collective bargaining and the scourge of gourmet chocolates. Shatner's singing of "Pure Imagination" on the backdrop of assembly lines reveals a man who has become as bitter and salty as his line of dark chocolate with sea salt. The dramatic finale builds with Oompa Loompas storming the gates and Charlie facing the man he has become.

SilverWook said:

The new movie might get Disney to release Return To Oz on Blu Ray, and that would be a good thing.

That would be terrific!

EyeShotFirst said:

Mrebo said:

The new Oz movie: misconceived and miscast. Not worth the computer it was rendered on.

Yeah, I can't really understand choosing James Franco and Mila Kunis in their roles. Nothing against them, they weren't right.

Zach Braff would have been a far superior choice. He comes to mind because he was in the movie but he could have played the part of a lady-chasing circus circus magician well. Granted it would only have worked for his lady-chasing to have be rebuffed at every turn. It would have been an amusing running gag. And the makeup for the wicked witch was so bad I could only think of The Mask. Franco and Kunis looked awkward in their roles.