Mrebo

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

Mrebo said:

a flattering photo of oneself

So any picture of me?

It’s a starting point.

I had an idea the other day to put a flattering photo of oneself covering the bathroom mirror to improve morale. At least in the morning and have it printed on a shade that can roll-up. Or if not oneself then someone else attractive.

I think the anti- “thoughts and prayers” meme is more tired than the condolences people offer. Complaining about expressions of sympathy gets zero traction in trying to convince people of policy views.

Hope suspension of disbelief isn’t dead. That said, I get annoyed when more recent series opted for minor head/ear cosmetics.

Trident said:

Reading this forum backwards is sort of an experience. All the banned dudes come back to life. All the comments unwind instead of build up. All the arguments die off. And nothing makes any goddam sense.

But I still do it.

All the time.

I guess I’m just a sucker for a never-ending bunch of prequels?

I don’t know

The forum reads the same way forwards.

Chicken parm sandwich, so satisfying.

Otherwise known as the Warbler.

Horax

Rat

Hello, Friday night.

yogurt

Nobody gets in to see the Wizard. Not nobody, not no how!

Show me the money!

Handman said:

Mrebo said:

Spock is becoming the Elmo of Star Trek.

That is a very good analogy.

Thank you, I love your new avatar.

Spock is becoming the Elmo of Star Trek.

Jeebus said:

Mrebo said:

If I were the proverbial person from Mars and you wanted to convince me that Naziism/white supremacy is gaining a foothold in US society and politics, these aren’t convincing examples.

1. A guy in Illinois with no chance of winning who was completely disavowed by the GOP

What about a Nazi winning the Missouri House primary by 25 points?

The Martian is not impressed. It is amazing what kind of people can be elected in state houses but it’s not proof that Naziism is sweeping the nation.

Antisemitism was a major part of actual Nazism and for whatever reason has found quarter on the Left. That is something that I do find worrisome. (The Missouri candidate expresses antisemitism which is more rare among candidates on the Right.)

chyron, think there is a misconception. Nativism and nationalism predate and exist independently of Naziism/white supremacy. That is why I contest that they belong to those ideologies. I’m not saying they aren’t also part of those ideologies.

And of course the debate over borders is much broader. People of all different ethnicities and political views may dislike immigrants coming to work here. And that’s not ‘border security,’ there’s nativism there but also simple economic selfishness. This is all much more complicated than Nazis!

DuracellEnergizer said:

Time to compare & contrast our respective fuckin’s.

Maybe another time, I have a headache.

Conservatives set their hair on fire when Democrats are in office, insisting they’re trying to establish socialism (or even communism) in the US. All kinds of associations and statements are offered as evidence. Socialism actually does get a following and respect among Dems but I think it’s still a fringe view, Bernie and Ocasio-Cortez notwithstanding. I don’t think I’m too complacent about that odious ideology, just realistic about the lacking acceptance of it. I recall the Left going ballistic when the Right called Obama and his policies socialist. The definition of socialism was trotted out as refutation, and they were right. That’s not to say I supported the policies or wasn’t concerned they could be used as stepping stones to socialism, but if “socialist” or “Nazi” have any real meaning they shouldn’t be thrown around so willy nilly.

Bush was accused of trying to establish a theocracy. That was similarly absurd. This is the same old song and dance with the same sparse evidence. Except now it’s being used to justify Leftist violence.

moviefreakedmind said:

Nativism and anti-immigrant positions do belong to Nazis and white supremacists.

You might wish that but history says otherwise. A dispute over open/closed borders isn’t cause for violence.

If I were the proverbial person from Mars and you wanted to convince me that Naziism/white supremacy is gaining a foothold in US society and politics, these aren’t convincing examples.

1. A guy in Illinois with no chance of winning who was completely disavowed by the GOP

2. 20 people holding signs.

3. Steve King who has been in Congress 15 years. During that time he’s said ignorant and racist things but he’s not an insurgent Nazi.

It should go without saying you can find people with loathesome views. You can find violent racists. What I see totally lacking is a popular appeal that would give Nazis/white supremacists power. The pathetic turnout for the recent “rally” supports my view.

In these discussions I see the definitions blurred so that Nazi becomes a general slur against positions that may be objectionable but don’t belong to Nazis/white supremacists, like nativist/anti-immigrant positions. Those ideas have had some sway throughout our history. I don’t like those views either. The idea that civil society is done and there’s a whole bunch of Hitlerites running around that need punching is not supported by the facts.

Ackmena

4-LOM

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

Original unaltered trilogy

real names only 😉

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